Could we be losing in Iraq because...Follow

FFA

Last I checked, losing a war usually involved finding a major city captured or bombed off the face of the planet.

ZOMG! This is taking a long time! We are losing!

That's exactly the bad attitude that's costing us the war, Commie.

However the rise of the insurgency stems mainly from the failed policies of the current administration. Most notably the flat out refusal to incorporate the republican guard into a national police force. Compounded by failure to maintain public order leading to the current lawlessness that is now commonplace. Compounded by the troop surges in the past that have failed to have any tangible effect on the insurgency.

So the failings so far are in fact tangible.

Edited, Feb 20th 2007 6:06pm by bodhisattva

I could have sworn we were winning (not that I think we're even close to actually winning and getting out, and a host of other issues with it aside, let's just focus on the fact that we're there, not that we shouldn't be there). We've lost slightly over 3,000 troops (a rather small amount when compared to the enemy), I still feel that since we're in it, we should be in it to win it (if you're not fighting to win, what are you fighting for?).

Take the gloves off, and bomb these bastards back into the 3rd century (since that's where they want to be anyway).

What I think is rather funny is all the clamoring about civilian deaths. Hasn't anyone caught on that it's the insurgents killing them, not us? Back on track though, can you imagine the civilian casualties during WWI or II? Can anyone fathom the amount of civilian casualties that Israel will suffer, should Iran win this conflict (they're backing the insurgents, you know it, they know it, everyone knows it), and then after Israel, Europe, and then the U.S.?

Can anyone fathom the amount of civilian casualties that Israel will suffer, should Iran win this conflict

None.

Stick to asking if people want fries with their orders, when you try to post about geo-politics it just makes Gbaji look like a genius. No one needs that ****.

Smash, when I want your baseless opinions, I'll remove them from my neighbor's dog's *** and give them to you.

When you have actually done something (besides the **** and moan "woe is the world"), or decide to do something about a problem (again, besides the **** and moan "woe is the world" or post in the Asylum), then talk.

Hell, when you are able to understand the ballot that you'd vote with, then talk. Until then, stop echoing what you hear on Air America.

we should airdrop DVDs of the movie Gandhi for them to watch.

Are you seriously trying to establish a connection between those wars and what we're doing today in Iraq?

Yes, he is that desperate.

Looking at the situation from a purely financial standpoint... at $1 billion a week, I would at least HOPE to have seen some result better than where we are standing. Maybe it's not LOSING, but there are definite quantitative LOSSES.

The connection is there, but not quite the way you're thinking I'm going with it. I don't think that what we're attempting to accomplish in Iraq is anywhere near as noble as WWII. Sorry if it came off that way to you, but it didn't. I think that the conflict that we're in, is against the very things this nation was founded on. I do think however, that once you start something, you finish it. If you end up losing face over it, so be it. I'm not the type to back down, and neither is our country, when faced with problems.

During WWI and II, our country killed hundreds of thousands of civilians ( millions maybe?) vs. the couple hundred in Iraq. The thousands of civilians that have been killed have been killed by the terrorists/insurgents. People are complaining about civilian deaths now (hell, they're complaining about our troop deaths too), imagine that we were in the middle of WWII today, we'd lose, because the current guts of America are too weak, and can't stand some real blood or violence. Nor can they stand what it takes to win.

Do I think that we should have gone into Iraq like we did? No. Do I think that we should take the kid gloves off and win this thing? Yes.