Feith-based intelligence gatheringFollow

So, you know the nasty rumors going around that the "intelligence" that led us to go to war against Iraq were largely manufactured whole cloth out of the lurid fantasies of the current Administration?

Turns out they're true, according to a new Pentagon report.



Well, damn. Turns out the libruls were right about this one.

This is almost as grand as the time that Bush claimed he had no forewarning that Katrina would be as bad as it would, then a week later there was a video published which completely contradicted this.

Hopefully he will have a hard time using the intelligence community as a scapegoat anymore. "You had access to the same intelligence we did" argument falls apart when they manipulated the raw intelligence in the first place and then presented it to congress.

FTFY

I guess gbaji is still typing his reply.

This post might break the forums. Good thing Dana set in a character limit.

Don't remember, but I'm sure trying to reach it will get you muted.

Lurid fantasies of the current administration? More like fantasies of the Clinton Administration, read Bill's indictment of Osama for bombing the WTC. Here he makes clear of Al Qaeda's affiliation with Iraq.

Read section 4.

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/indict1.pdf

i think I'm missing something here. please corect me if i am.


That document mentions Iraq once, talking about Al Qaida reaching an agreement with the Iraqi government about certain policies including ones involving weapon making. That hardly makes anything "clear".

Concidering over 10 other nations are mentioned in that document and that the mention of Iraq is pretty vague.... how is this relevant to anything?

Clinton didn't press for war with Iraq, did he? Because to single out that country around all of the other ones who did activly participate with Al Qaida kinda makes the whole thing kinda moot doesn't it?

It basically lists the fact that there was a coorospondance... it doesn't say anythihg specific about Uraniumn from Africa or anything like that.

I still think its partly Clinton's fault for the war we got mixed up in.

President Hoover was blamed for the problems in the country when he took over as President. Hoovervilles says it all. But now the United States knows that Hoover was one of the country's best president.

Each President's actions affect the country's future. I'm not saying its ALL of Clinton's fault for the mess were in. But that he played a role in where were at today.

Edit: I didn't even read that file thing about the vague statement either. Clinton has done a few things that weren't exactly good for our country.

Its more so I think we should hold the people who have been in and currently are in power responsible for what are country goes through.

We never thought there was going to be a WWII; WWI was supposed to be the war to end all wars but that never happened and look...Were now supposedly in a "war on terrorism" I still personally think that was a ploy to get people to support Bush's actions. I support the troops but not war itself. I think our troops should be safe but that ain't happening anytime soon.

I believe there will never be stability over in the Middle East and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same and will use "no stability" as an argument to pull out but were already over there, I think we should help the people of those countries to give them a little bit of hope.

Edited, Feb 10th 2007 7:05pm by Sogoro

Merely stating that public opinion isn't always accurate to the truths.

Edit: Let me restate it. Looking back into history Hoover was blamed for a lot of things that weren't under his watch.

My U.S. History Teacher's personal opinion was that he was one of the best presidents.

Edited, Feb 10th 2007 7:11pm by Sogoro

Not once did I say that Bush isn't at fault. I was stating that the past actions of presidents affected the future presidency's.

For every action there is a reaction. This is the way that I see the line of presidency.

I'm not delusional. I know that Bush got us into a **** hole that we want to get out of.

How is it ignorant to believe that past actions dictate the future?

Edit: It's basically all I'm pointing out. Maybe I should have started off with this at the start. Forgive me for any misunderstanding.



Edited, Feb 10th 2007 7:28pm by Sogoro