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#52 Feb 08 2007 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Pensive, are you thinking about hurting yourself?


Nah

But the point is that if you're going to start with the premise that someone is attempting to actually end thier life, it is not only dismissive but also quite fallacious to blame the sh*t on Simple Plan. There is something very, very @#%^ed up in the mindset and the logic of someone that has found themselves in a situation in which they can see absolutely no other choice than to kill themselves. A person like that is not thinking rationally; a person like that should not be derided because of some notion that it all arises from some stupid trend of culture. Maybe they should be derided by letting thier logic and perspective fail so horribly that they can no longer find any value in life, or hell maybe they have just been reading too much Dostoyevsky, but it's just foolish to flippantly claim the culture is the sole cause of a problem, and argue something along the lines of "well damn in my day this sh*t didn't happen, damn all that new music!"

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Do NOT be a friend to your kids (they have enough of those)
put your FOOT DOWN and be their PARENTS
The younger you instill that idea on their heads the better


If all problems with youth were merely behavior then perhaps this would suffice to fix things. They aren't, and it doesn't.

When a kid has emotional angst, percieved soundly or not, thier friends in high school, especially middle school, and especially if you're a guy, are the last people that you want to be running to crying and leaning upon.

Edited, Feb 8th 2007 10:19am by Pensive
#53 Feb 08 2007 at 7:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pensive wrote:
Maybe they should be derided by letting thier logic and perspective fail so horribly that they can no longer find any value in life
Agreed!

Fuckin' emo kids...
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#54 Feb 08 2007 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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I'm the oldest of 3 girls. My youngest sister is 8 years younger than me and it's amazing to see the way kids today are changing. No longer are most kids respectful of authority figures, like parents for example. Comparatively, my little sisters seem to be able to get away with much more than I ever could.

My little sister is most definitely "Emo". She's been this way for a couple years now despite being on a few different anti-deprssants and therapy (for a little while anyways). She is beautiful and a talented artist, in fact she could do anything she wanted really and yet she can't seem to be able to finish highschool, get a job or do anything at all productive because she is always "sad". I try to tell her that there is a big world out there and that she doesn't want to look back on her years spent wasted being depressed over nothing and regret them.

The problem is that she is spoiled and selfish, as are most of these emo kids today. It scares my parents when she cuts up her arms, for example, so she just gets whatever she wants to make her stop. She never does herself any real harm, however it still scares the **** out of my parents.

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Any of you ever met an emokid? They are usually suburban white twats with plenty of opportunity in life that don't have sh*t to do. Young adult life is stressful as hell and it gets into these kids' heads. Their biggest concerns revolve around not missing the bus in the morning and what Johnny said that Suzy said that Tina said she might like so-and-so.


I couldn't agree more. Depression is a serious thing, but this new breed of "emo" kids is just a bunch of whiney, spoiled brats angry with the world because they are just figuring out that everything in life won't be served to them on a silver platter. What ever happened to working hard for something anyway?



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It scares my parents when she cuts up her arms, for example, so she just gets whatever she wants to make her stop.
Next time she does it, have your father drag her out to the shed, fire up the chainsaw and hold her down while he sees how close he can get the blade to her arm.

"You wanna cut your arm!? I'll cut your fucking arm!! What's wrong?! I thought you wanted your arm cut!!!"

That should put an end to it.
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#56 Feb 08 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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That idea is pure gold I say!
#57 Feb 08 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I couldn't agree more. Depression is a serious thing, but this new breed of "emo" kids is just a bunch of whiney, spoiled brats angry with the world because they are just figuring out that everything in life won't be served to them on a silver platter. What ever happened to working hard for something anyway?


At the same time..

It would be foolish to dismiss all cases of suicide and depression as a manifestation of the emo culture.

If someone is emo, then they have a higher tendency to become suicidal, and probably to cut themselves, based on whatever they feel is cool at the time. That really isn't any different than any single other generation of people ever. Being emo is in many cases sufficient for becomming suicidal, but it is not a necessary condition of the case. It is important to be mindful not to simply write off suicidal tendencies as

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@#%^in' emo kids...


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No longer are most kids respectful of authority figures, like parents for example.


Yes, and this is bad? Just because someone is older than you is no good reaosn for respecting them anymore, and that is not lost to parent/child relationships either.

[quote=]Next time she does it, have your father drag her out to the shed, fire up the chainsaw and hold her down while he sees how close he can get the blade to her arm.

That should put an end to it.[/quote]

Though I'm almost positive that that entire post was tounge in cheek, I can say that If my father was to ever treat me that creully then I would likely go ahead and off myself out of a combination of both spite and the sadness that would follow from being rejected by my own father.

Edited, Feb 8th 2007 6:07pm by Pensive
#58 Feb 09 2007 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
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No longer are most kids respectful of authority figures, like parents for example [...]

The problem is that she is spoiled and selfish, as are most of these emo kids today. [...]

but this new breed of "emo" kids is just a bunch of whiney, spoiled brats angry with the world because they are just figuring out that everything in life won't be served to them on a silver platter. What ever happened to working hard for something anyway?


The discourse that the old generation has been holding towards the new genration since mankind began. Smiley: oyvey
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#59 Feb 09 2007 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Let's make sure they understand that you're an authority figure and not someone they can share their thoughts or feelings with. That'll go well. I'd rather not alienate my daughter and rely on her "friends" to help her when she's conflicted about choices she's trying to make or even worse, have her feel alone altogether. There's enough of that when you're all grown up.

I'm not advocating that you need to be a buddy RATHER than a parent, but I don't think one precludes the other.

Nexa



way to go in taking out my last 2 statements that explain your argument there Nexa.

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Be involved, know their friends, their hobbies, etc.

your duty as parents is to guide them and instill good morals and confidence.



Look, you CAN be involved and not alienate your child - As a PARENT - most kids these days don't take their Parents very seriously when they do the "Friend" approach

It is very important that they understand your role in their lives. Down the line, they too will raise their own kids

I understand what you are saying Nexa, I know you have to find a perfect balance between being a "buddy" and being a "parent" at the same time... but the moment that your child views you more of a buddy than a parent.. is the moment you lose.




Edited, Feb 9th 2007 3:41pm by liltaruwar
#60 Feb 11 2007 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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If I had to hypothesize, I would look into what seem to be current isolating factors. Has anything dramatic occurred to make these kids feel like externalizing their issues is pointless?
I blame cell phones and the internets.
#61 Feb 11 2007 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
I blame the parents for not instilling enough character and wisdom in their children to see that all dark times lead to good inevitably. Hopelessness is simply the product of neglect.

No, you shouldn't have to sugar coat all of life's problems for your kids, but for the love of God, at least check and make sure they have a brain between their ears and a passion for something meaningful..

Edited, Feb 11th 2007 8:13pm by Lefein
#63 Feb 12 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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