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#52 Mar 13 2007 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ehhh.. I don't know why but I forgot about Eirene. I cried when she started talking about burying and stuff. And did you guys notice how they filmed her death? It was very cool. They had lighting in her eyes and they slowed dimmed that out when she died. It was just so... so... Smiley: cry
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#53 Mar 13 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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He should just do Mark Antony and get it over with.


Oddly for HBO, they basically completely relegated any gay sex to the lower classes. It's mentioned a few times that it's common in the upper classes, but apparently they thought the characters wouldn't remain 'sympathetic' if they did.
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#54 Mar 13 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Because most of these characters are sooo sympathetic to begin with?

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Because most of these characters are sooo sympathetic to begin with?


Yeah, largely. I don't think anyone saw Brutus die and said "yay!"
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Weren't we treated to some lesbian scenes between Servilia and Octavia in season 1?
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#57 Mar 13 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, largely. I don't think anyone saw Brutus die and said "yay!"


I did :-) Rewound, slow motion watched it again.
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Weren't we treated to some lesbian scenes between Servilia and Octavia in season 1?


Yeah of course. Lesbian sex is fine. Gay sex is bad. Stop being silly. Only less sympathetic characters can have gay sex, and then one of them must be direly evil. Castor and the kid trying to kill Attia for example. Brutus and Cassius getting it on, though, impossible, even though they're less sympathetic, neither one is evil enough to remind us what a horrible abomination gay sex is.

Antony, Pullo, and Voreenus can rape women while at war, but certainly not men or boys. Octavian can be offered a man for his virginity ending visit to the whorehouse, but certainly can't accept. There can be a rumor that Ceasat is @#%^ing Octavian, but it can't actually happen on the show. "See how realistic we are! We're showing that there was gay sex around in ancient Rome, just all of our characters happen to be red blooded women **************

So, in a culture where it's virtually impossible that most of the male characters weren't having gay sex, we get hyper masculine hetro men. Voreenus, so outraged that his wife took a lover when he thought he was dead that he effectively kills her. Pullo who @#%^s everything he sees even when his wife is pregnant. Antony who's **** should have fallen off at about age 16 given the rate of his exchange of sexual partners. Even Octavian, asexual, aloof and suspiciously gay seeming has to be overmasculinized by making him a sexual ****** to explain why he's not more interested in women.

Welcome to 1955.



Edited, Mar 13th 2007 10:06pm by Smasharoo
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You realy just want to watch gay pron, don't you?

You can admit it... It's ok.
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You realy just want to watch gay pron, don't you?

You can admit it... It's ok.


Gay **** doesn't really bother me, honestly, I've seen some and mostly it just struck me as silly. I suspect a good deal of women probably feel the same way about lesbian **** (or given the content, straight **** too for that matter). Gay love stories have about the same emotional impact for me as hetero ones, I just don't find men sexually attractive. Which is unfortunate in a way, because aside from the actual sex act, the life style seems pretty ideal for most men in their 20s or early 30s. Lots of sex, few attachments, and as a bonus well decorated apartments.

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#61 Mar 19 2007 at 12:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I could see that Pullo scene coming from a mile away, but it was still damn satisfying to watch him choke the life out of that blood sucking ***** and toss her into the river. It was icing on the cake to have her whimpering at him like a little romantic puppy too. Yay karma.

The sex in this series is usually entertaining to watch, but I just find the Octavian sex stuff borderline horrifying. His wife is so creepy and then when you factor in his odd demeanor... yech. I wish they'd kept the boy actor a bit longer.

And what's with the show's lack of "XX years later"? I mean I'm guessing from the looks of the children that it's been I dunno, 5 or 6 years, but damn. It would be nice to know where we stand.

I miss the old Antony. The eyeliner sporting, purple silk wearing ***** we see now is just nasty. I guess Pullo and Vorenus will get to meet again, as someone mentioned. Think they'll fight and die together on the battlefield?
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#62 Mar 19 2007 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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And what's with the show's lack of "XX years later"? I mean I'm guessing from the looks of the children that it's been I dunno, 5 or 6 years, but damn. It would be nice to know where we stand.


Next week is the last episode of Rome ever. Such a sad day that will be. Unfortunately, everyone who has a Nielson's box watches utter **** *cough* American Idol, Deal or No Deal *cough* and shows such as Rome get canceled.

I was hoping there would be more than 10 episodes this season. Alas, another one of my favorite shows goes down the tube.

So basically, yeah, next week is last episode and they are most likely setting up a plot point with all the children since it will be the finale.

It's a shame the budget for the show is extremely high (100 million for the first season iirc) and there arent enough viewers to pay for it. We won't get to see Octavian's rule, nor will we see anything on Emperor Nero.

The Lost World, E-Ring and now Rome. I hate Nielson!!!! They are the bane of my enjoyable television viewing.

What shall become of pullo and verenus?
#63 Mar 19 2007 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I could have sworn there are way more than 10 episodes this season. On the Rome website they label last night's ep as #21.

I'm trying to look on the bright side and have been telling myself that they're trying to plow the funding way for Game of Thrones next year. +_+
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#64 Mar 19 2007 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Season 1 bore 12 episodes...

Season 2 only 10 :-(

Episode 21 being the 9th episode of the second season.


The bright side I always look at. HBO has ALWAYS come through on producing a good show on a consistent basis. So while they all may not last too long, at least another good show will be popping up soon (short of Entourage)



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I could see that Pullo scene coming from a mile away, but it was still damn satisfying to watch him choke the life out of that blood sucking ***** and toss her into the river. It was icing on the cake to have her whimpering at him like a little romantic puppy too. Yay karma.


Feh. It needed to be much more violent and bloody. This death-bed confession thing was far too sympathetic for my tastes, and what's the point of him killing her when she's already dying, having saved his life? I wasn't to see him rip out her tongue like he did the other guy's.

Dreading the idea of Pullo and Vorenus facing off on opposite sides of the battlefield.

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and what's the point of him killing her when she's already dying


well, in my opinion, being killed by someone you profess to love, and they have feelings for you as well, ranks higher on up on the pain scale than a fatal stab wound.

Picture it this way.... would it be more hurtful for you to die by getting stabbed or having your wife/husband kill you cold heartily?

My initial reaction was that pullo and vorenus would battle on the field of war. However, with vorenus's actions and thoughts on episode 21, I hardly see them battling against eachother. Vorenus has no pride in Antony, nor does he sulk in the Roman ways. This leads me to believe that Vorenus will actually betray Antony for the good of Rome and the sake of his brotherhood with Pullo.

WHat I'm dying to know is.... who gets the finishing blow on Antony? Yes, as history serves he commits suicide, but this show doesn't depict 100% accuracy when it comes to history.

Too bad the season is going to end. I'm curious as to how the children of Vorenus are going to turn out. I wonder if they will reconcile with their father in this last episode.
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well, in my opinion, being killed by someone you profess to love, and they have feelings for you as well, ranks higher on up on the pain scale than a fatal stab wound.


Doesn't matter. That ***** needed to die a very splattery, gruesome death. Strangling was too good for her, unless it came in the form of her being garrotted with her own intestines.



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Strangling was too good for her, unless it came in the form of her being garrotted with her own intestines.


Lol ok, I'll give ya that one ;-)
#69 Mar 20 2007 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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My guess is this:

IF Pullo believes that Ceasarian is his child, then he will go to Egypt and try to be the one in charge of excecuting the child and really save the child and run off with him.. essentially adopting him... he will do this with Vorenus' help.

In history the child is captured and killed... but we know how that stuff goes in this show.
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If that's how it goes down, I smell a switcheroo! They've done too much setting up with Pullo and Eirene/child's death and then the conversation with Octavian, etc. Plus they've already made plain that Vorenus is talking about Pullo to Caesarion, so I doubt he'd be the one to have a hand in his death with Pullo watching over his kids for the last 5 years.
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#71 Mar 20 2007 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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A good episode, to be sure, but the sex scene with Octavian scarred me for life.

EEK!

I felt so sorry for Atia when M.A. turned her away...until she asked Octavain to crush him, a'course. Smiley: wink
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#72 Mar 20 2007 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Heh, I'm sure the boat ride home wasn't all that pleasant for Posca. She must have squeezed all the info she could out of him.
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#73 Mar 26 2007 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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Farewell, Rome!

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#74 Mar 26 2007 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok maybe im wrong, but.... This last episode didnt seem like a series finale but more like a season finale. I know they say they arent making anymore but there seemed to be way to many open story lines to "possibly bring it back" maybe years down the road. Also notice they didnt show vorenus die, and atia at the end with her smurk and comment to octavians wife and caesarion still lives, and lets not forget the birth of jesus still remains. I know its just a wish but i really hope down the road they bring it back...
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They may. I think that was the point. Afterall, the major plot story is historical. It's not like history ended with Octavian taking control of Rome. As to the direct character storylines, they obviously left Verenus' fate open so that they'd have the option of bringing him back if they ever decide to do another season. Personally, I have a feeling that if someone survives for a month with a spear wound while traveling in the back of a wagon, they'll probably continue to survive once they are in a cleaner environment with access to medical care. But that's reality. It makes for a better story to have him "hold on" for that long just to see his children before dying. Either way, the ending allows them options...

It was good to see the two of them kick some butt together one last time though. :)
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They may.


Too expensive, most of the interesting characters are dead, etc. I imagine they'll have historical drama fairly soon of some sort though.

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