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Bah, I came up with an easy and cheap solution to this whole global warming thing years ago. Sure "Nuclear Winter" has a few down sides... But the polar ice caps will be safe!
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Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 3:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wtf are you talking about "mark dates"? I'm talking about a magnetic flip that's in process that hasn't happened for 780k years. But you insinuate you and the climatologist wackos have indeed incorporated it.
MonxDoT wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
Much like the whole Magentic shift to mark dates
Wtf are you talking about "mark dates"? I'm talking about a magnetic flip that's in process that hasn't happened for 780k years. But you insinuate you and the climatologist wackos have indeed incorporated it.
Show me the data! Show me the data! Help me help joo! Show me the data!
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 6:37pm by MonxDoT
Here is the quote.
MonxDot wrote:
Quote:
Studies of ancient reversals of the Earth's magnetic field, measured in continental rocks and the ocean floor, provide a time-marker for climate changes =>Climate cycles
That's non human activity.
Studies of ancient reversals of the Earth's magnetic field, measured in continental rocks and the ocean floor, provide a time-marker for climate changes =>Climate cycles
That's non human activity.
You were trying to make the argument that this quote was evidence between magnetic reversals as non human activity linked to climate change. You used the above quote. Trying to state that a means of relative dating used to measure climate change is somehow actually one of the reasons of climate change. This shows your complete lack of understanding as to what was being said in the quote you used.
Once again your quote abou the IPCC shows a similar lack of understanding or misintepretation.
If you are trying to argue a point which you cant prove using misinterpreted data, all while trying to force the person you are arguing agaisnt to prove a point they never claimed, what do you get? An idiot. I am guessing you are only having a hard time reaching this conclusion because you are an idiot. Which is another hard piece of data in my favour.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 11:45pm by bodhisattva
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 11:47pm by bodhisattva
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#81REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 4:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Whatever, your wording was poor Bodhi. I'll take it the Report doesn't incorporate 780k magnetic flip data into their models. I went out of my way to show you some really kewl magnetic flip science, and you liked it! MonxSchool v. 3.0 ftw. Happy weekend!
MetalJeff wrote:
The Earth works in cycles and patterns far greater than anything we can imagine. If you look at what true scientists have discovered, you'd see that there have been periods of mass freezing AND mass melting millions, if not billions of years before cars and power plant polluted the air. The earth was here moving in cycles long before us, and will be here doing it thing long after we're gone.
Global Warming is a hoax.
Global Warming is a hoax.
You will also notice that the scientists qualified their statements about global warming by stating that what is currently happening outstrips and natural warming/cooling trends in history/pre-history.
They also go along to show that the most likely source exacerbating global warming trends to there current alarming conditions is anthropogenic.
So yeah, they have in fact 'factored in the whole cycle'. As mentioned they studied co2, methane and other greenhouse gases over hundreds of thousands of years. As well as short term over the last couple centuries. That is where your argument falls apart.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 12:05am by bodhisattva
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
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P.S. We're having our coldest year in recent memory (over 20 years) here in Colorado right now. It is very much the same across the country. How is this possible if the global climate is heating up?
Because, again and for the millionth time, the measure is not how cold it is in Des fUcking Moines, but the change over time in ambient ocean surface temperature. If it's the coldest winter in Bum-FUcked Egypt, CO, maybe that's because of, I dunno, CLIMATE CHANGES.
Christ, stupidity should hurt the stupid more than those around them.
Aside from that, of course, twenty years' time is not really much of a data point in an area known for wild temperature variations. How much colder is it than average? How much colder is it than it was in 1987?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
MonxDoT wrote:
Whatever, your wording was poor Bodhi. I'll take it the Report doesn't incorporate 780k magnetic flip data into their models. I went out of my way to show you some really kewl magnetic flip science, and you liked it! MonxSchool v. 3.0 ftw. Happy weekend!
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 7:03pm by MonxDoT
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 7:03pm by MonxDoT
This was your original point, which you were unable to prove. You were first unable to prove either way if magnetic flips have an effect on the environment. You were also unable to show that the report didnt take this into account.
I could make a statement that they didnt take into account fire when doing the report. I didnt see it mentioned specifically afterall and fire is hot! I could then show you a video of a guy lighting his fart ablaze. That in no way proves my previous statement. Since I never proved that they didnt factor in fire.
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Samira wrote:
Quote:
P.S. We're having our coldest year in recent memory (over 20 years) here in Colorado right now. It is very much the same across the country. How is this possible if the global climate is heating up?
Because, again and for the millionth time, the measure is not how cold it is in Des fUcking Moines, but the change over time in ambient ocean surface temperature. If it's the coldest winter in Bum-FUcked Egypt, CO, maybe that's because of, I dunno, CLIMATE CHANGES.
Christ, stupidity should hurt the stupid more than those around them.
Aside from that, of course, twenty years' time is not really much of a data point in an area known for wild temperature variations. How much colder is it than average? How much colder is it than it was in 1987?
Of course there is also a body of work to show that increased average heat has caused more condensation which has in turn caused cooler summers and winters in certain parts of the world. Central Canada and some place in China being among those noted.
(and before you run off on that one rememberthat the report states that such build up has been proven not to offset anthropogenic warmers, there is still a net increase in heat gained)
Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 12:12am by bodhisattva
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Will nobody Think of the Insects!?!?!!
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
MetalJeff wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
MetalJeff wrote:
The Earth works in cycles and patterns far greater than anything we can imagine. If you look at what true scientists have discovered, you'd see that there have been periods of mass freezing AND mass melting millions, if not billions of years before cars and power plant polluted the air. The earth was here moving in cycles long before us, and will be here doing it thing long after we're gone.
Global Warming is a hoax.
Global Warming is a hoax.
You will also notice that the scientists qualified their statements about global warming by stating that what is currently happening outstrips and natural warming/cooling trends in history/pre-history.
They also go along to show that the most likely source exacerbating global warming trends to there current alarming conditions is anthropogenic.
So yeah, they have in fact 'factored in the whole cycle'. As mentioned they studied co2, methane and other greenhouse gases over hundreds of thousands of years. As well as short term over the last couple centuries. That is where your argument falls apart.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 12:05am by bodhisattva
So you mean to tell me that in about 100 or so years, we have managed to change those ancient cycles of the Earth and endanger the entire planet? My, we certainly are a powerful race.
I am not telling you anything. 600+ of the worlds most accomplished scientists from many different disciplines as well as other indepent research by EPA, The American Meteorological Society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration as well as a myriad of other indpendant scientifically accredited organizations, are tell you.
Don't get pissy cause your whole "natural variation" had already been accounted for.
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Yes, I'm positive that a cough syrup addict and some Shit kicker in Colorado know more about climatology than the 600 scientists who have signed off on the report mentioned in the topic.
It's absurd! Therefore it's not happening! Everything is just super.
It's absurd! Therefore it's not happening! Everything is just super.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
MetalJeff wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
MetalJeff wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
MetalJeff wrote:
The Earth works in cycles and patterns far greater than anything we can imagine. If you look at what true scientists have discovered, you'd see that there have been periods of mass freezing AND mass melting millions, if not billions of years before cars and power plant polluted the air. The earth was here moving in cycles long before us, and will be here doing it thing long after we're gone.
Global Warming is a hoax.
Global Warming is a hoax.
You will also notice that the scientists qualified their statements about global warming by stating that what is currently happening outstrips and natural warming/cooling trends in history/pre-history.
They also go along to show that the most likely source exacerbating global warming trends to there current alarming conditions is anthropogenic.
So yeah, they have in fact 'factored in the whole cycle'. As mentioned they studied co2, methane and other greenhouse gases over hundreds of thousands of years. As well as short term over the last couple centuries. That is where your argument falls apart.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 12:05am by bodhisattva
So you mean to tell me that in about 100 or so years, we have managed to change those ancient cycles of the Earth and endanger the entire planet? My, we certainly are a powerful race.
I am not telling you anything. 600+ of the worlds most accomplished scientists from many different disciplines as well as other indepent research by EPA, The American Meteorological Society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration as well as a myriad of other indpendant scientifically accredited organizations, are tell you.
Don't get pissy cause your whole "natural variation" had already been accounted for.
Convenient you skipped over the latter part of my post.
No need to skip it. If you had actually read the report they state that their are a number of natural causes affecting a trend towards global warming. They also explicitly stated that anthropogenic causes are the most prevalent and causing the current trend in global warming to be like none other in the archaelogical record.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
MetalJeff wrote:
Samira: Your efforts to insult me have failed.
Better?
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
I'm terribly, terribly concerned.
No, really.
No, really.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Quote:
http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/jlh4...inionA.html
Open your eyes to the real world.
With a simple change of OpinionA to OpinionB you get ...
http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/jlh425/assignment2/opinionB.html
It's one freaking grad student's research on differing opinions about global warming on the internet with NO further research into their actual sources!
Here read this, the author's own, analysis of his sources.
http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/jlh425/assignment2/analysis.html
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 5:52pm by baelnic
MetalJeff wrote:
lots of words
As I've said a few times:
Scientific evidence indicates that we're combining a natural upsurge in global temperature, with irresponsible over-use of energy that's exacerbating the problem.
We can't tame nature, but we can and should avoid throwing fuel on the flames.
1. Care to challenge that?
2. You're an cUnt
3. Do you deny that we can and should take action to avoid un-necessary addition to C02 emissions
4. You're still an cUnt
5. Led Zeppelin's lyrical and melodic strengths rarely coincided, with most of their output falling miderably between the two, and the occasional track soaring to heights of one or the other
6. gbaji is also an cUnt
7. The Toyota Prius is a box of Shite that (apart from being crap on performance) doesn't actually save that much energy
8. The Beatles were over-rated as a band, but did inspire creativity in others
9. You're an cUnt
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Quote:
Yes, that was one source.
If you'd like for me to keep posting more, I can.
If you'd like for me to keep posting more, I can.
You cited a source that was a grad students research paper on BAD online references.
Just keep spamming those top 50 google search results.
P.S. That's one sexy Blueberry in your avatar Nobby, love the tabard
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 6:06pm by baelnic
Haha, so owned.
No, fUckslap. Not Nobby. You.
No, fUckslap. Not Nobby. You.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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