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People need to wake up and stop underestimating the vast tentacle like reach of the all powerful windmill cartel. Holland was just the opening salvo. It's wooden shoes and tulips all around if we let this junk science be passed off as accurate.
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Samira wrote:
So the whole concept of cause and effect is just a big mystery to you. Got it.
But he said DENIED!
#29REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 12:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Is a big mystery to you and all the other left wing cronies, yes got it. You expect people who can't understand simple supply and demand to understand complicated multi-variable global models that have a history of exactly such cycles? Huge things I've seen neglected, flipping of the earth's magnetic pole field is due soon, which is a gigantic weakening of the magnetic field filtering the suns rays as it flips. 2.) Cows. These people are government bureacrat morons with agendas. The War on Povery! oh noes. The War on Global Warming! oh noes.
Secretary Samuel W. Bodman (Secretary of the Department of Energy) said the following today:
"Human activity is contributing to changes in our Earth's climate and that issue is no longer up for debate."
This is great to hear. For years and years and years the United States has repeatedly called for more and more science to back up claims of global warming. All the while pressuring govt scientists to censor their work to minimize any global warming claims. I am sure Bush will try to take the stance that it is now up to debate exactly how much we are in fact effecting the environment but it is an important step to at least get one of his cabinet to agree on it.
One science reporter said something really that rang true. If you get three scientists in a room observing 1 thing they will give you three different observations. For 600+ of the leading scientists in their field from over 113 countries to reach such certain agreement on the issue is huge.
"Human activity is contributing to changes in our Earth's climate and that issue is no longer up for debate."
This is great to hear. For years and years and years the United States has repeatedly called for more and more science to back up claims of global warming. All the while pressuring govt scientists to censor their work to minimize any global warming claims. I am sure Bush will try to take the stance that it is now up to debate exactly how much we are in fact effecting the environment but it is an important step to at least get one of his cabinet to agree on it.
One science reporter said something really that rang true. If you get three scientists in a room observing 1 thing they will give you three different observations. For 600+ of the leading scientists in their field from over 113 countries to reach such certain agreement on the issue is huge.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#31REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 12:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) One scientist at first said the earth revolves around the sun. 600+ of the leading scientists of their field said the sun revolved around the earth back in the day. Your point?
MonxDoT wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
If you get three scientists in a room observing 1 thing they will give you three different observations. For 600+ of the leading scientists in their field from over 113 countries to reach such certain agreement on the issue is huge.
One scientist at first said the earth revolves around the sun. 600+ of the leading scientists of their field said the sun revolved around the earth back in the day. Your point?
Your incomplete understanding of what happened surrounding Copernicus and the whole ptolemaic vs heliocentric debate aside, what is your point other than you rely on played out arguments when you are left without a leg to stand on?
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Jophiel wrote:
DSD wrote:
Actually I heard something a few weeks back on the radio, but dont have an article to peruse and prove this, but that areosal, which once was thought to add to the decline of the ozone, is actually combating the greenhouse effect.
I don't think that aerosols have anything to do with it. But's it's too quick off the mark from the last global warming thread for me to feel like looking crap up again.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 10:42am by Jophiel
What you are talking about is an effect that has been labeled "Global Dimming", basically that as you fill the atmosphere with certain types of *****, less sunlight gets through, but what gets in stays in. Unfortunately, the figures say it is not proportional, there is still a net gain in global temperature. It was a cause for rewriting computer models for global warming because the old models expected a faster rise than what was occuring. Identifying global dimming just gave them a means to more accurate predictions.
MonxDoT wrote:
One scientist at first said the earth revolves around the sun. 600+ of the leading scientists of their field said the sun revolved around the earth back in the day. Your point?
Agreed with Bodhisattva. A scientist and a "scholar" or "priest", are completely different things. You may also want to spend a little effort looking into what happened to Gallileo, it wasn't scientists that were threatening to execute him for his observations.
MonxDoT wrote:
One scientist at first said the earth revolves around the sun. 600+ of the leading scientists of their field said the sun revolved around the earth back in the day. Your point?
One scientist said at first that the phase of the moon influenced and predicted the change in the tides. 600 scientists agreed. Today, it's still agreed upon. OMG I found an old piece of science that was true so I proved all science to be RIGHT!!!!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#35REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 12:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The point is most of the leading scientists are usually wrong throughout history. Now some butt plugs claim they understand the entire science of global and solar and human events and their effect on climate? You bet yer *** they don't. Go do some experiments on magnetic fields and heat. That the leading 600+ scientist don't even incorporate such a super simple variable as the earth's magnetic field shows they know jack ****. One hundred years from now their models will look as laughable as the electronic gadgetry of 1907 looks today.
MonxDoT wrote:
Go do some experiments on magnetic fields and heat. That the leading 600+ scientist don't even incorporate such a super simple variable as the earth's magnetic field shows they know jack ****.
I find it hilarious every time some dipshit whose knowledge of the planet extends to what they just looked up on Wikipedia comes in and says "OMG what about the Medieval Warming Period!!??" or somesuch as if the guys at NOLA hadn't yet heard about it.
"Holy fuck, Bob! Did you heard about this magentic field around the Earth?"
"What?! They never taught me about that when I was getting my doctorate!"
"Yeah! Some guy just saw something about it on the Discover Channel!"
"Well! This changes EVERYTHING!"
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 1:04pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
MonxDoT wrote:
as laughable as the electronic gadgetry of 1907 looks today.
How does the 1907 electronic gadgetry look laughable? There's nothing wrong with it. It works. Just not as advanced as current electronics which is to be expected. Predictions will become more accurate as technology and methods advance yes, but that doesn't mean the current predictions are wrong. Your comparing technology to data collection and analysis. Technology effects data collection and analysis but you can't compare the two.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 4:10pm by Yodabunny
#38REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 1:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're making the claims. You show the variables. You show the proof.
I'm betting not even ONE of those six hundred "scientists" recognize cough syrup as a food group.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
#40REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 1:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Exactly. We can ********** just as well as them. Better.
I do believe they mentioned in the report that had taken into account know warming/cooling trends in the long term (your 50k) and had shown that current trends are not meeting with them and not coming from the same reasons.
If we go by the Logical fallacies scoreboard we can mark it as follows:
Scientists: Ignoring a Common Cause (though Monx has yet to prove his claim and has actually been reduced to making a Niobia~esque demand that we disprove his claim)
Monx: Ad Hominem, Personal Attack, Appeal to Ridicule, Hasty Generalization and probably a few more.
If we go by the Logical fallacies scoreboard we can mark it as follows:
Scientists: Ignoring a Common Cause (though Monx has yet to prove his claim and has actually been reduced to making a Niobia~esque demand that we disprove his claim)
Monx: Ad Hominem, Personal Attack, Appeal to Ridicule, Hasty Generalization and probably a few more.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
MonxDoT wrote:
You're making the claims.
Either you can back that statement up or you can't. I'm simply inviting you to do so before dismissing your comments. Do you have a copy of the study handy? The base studies used to compile it? Would you like to share with the class?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#43REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 1:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Don't forget to score yourselves too, and add hearsay from second hand studies you've never read.
Mmmhmm...
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MonxDoT wrote:
You're making the claims.
Either you can back that statement up or you can't. I'm simply inviting you to do so before dismissing your comments. Do you have a copy of the study handy? The base studies used to compile it? Would you like to share with the class?
QFT
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Jophiel wrote:
Mmmhmm...
We're waaAAAaaiiitttiiIINNnnnggg....
We're waaAAAaaiiitttiiIINNnnnggg....
This hotstuff pizza thingy is awesome, want one while we wait?
It does seem we might be a while.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
So MonxDot, are teh scientists right or wrong? Make up your damn mind.
#50REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2007 at 2:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Some are more wrong than others. But the total model is far from complete.
MonxDoT wrote:
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
So MonxDot, are teh scientists right or wrong? Make up your damn mind.
Some are more wrong than others.
And people wonder why the fundies made such a comeback.
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