So your argument is that the sun is big, therefore man has no effect on the climate.
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Samira wrote:
So your argument is that the sun is big, therefore man has no effect on the climate.
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His services were never required to begin with. Ever.
Samira wrote:
So your argument is that the sun is big, therefore man has no effect on the climate.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#280REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 06 2007 at 12:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It puts it in perspective Samira, that's all. Key variables may have been ommitted. I never said man has no effect on climate. But let's keep it in proper perspective. That's all. It's proper scientific progression. If you want to talk about global warming, let's talk about the sources of global warming -- all of them.
MonxDoT wrote:
Key variables may have been ommitted.
Ninjas might have put uranium in my furnace. Let's have a seven page thread about it where I'm not required to actually provide evidence of it but anyone who disagrees will be told that it might have happened.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MonxDoT wrote:
Key variables may have been ommitted.
Ninjas might have put uranium in my furnace. Let's have a seven page thread about it where I'm not required to actually provide evidence of it but anyone who disagrees will be told that it might have happened.
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are you people that stupid! Build a scale replica of the solar system. Now look at the huge mother ******* Sun ijiot. Here's a small clue for you. Diameter of the earth is around 8,000 miles. Diamater of the Sun is around 863,000 miles. You think us dinky little humans burning dinky little fossil fuels comes anywhere near the energy output of the Sun which is heating our planet like an incubator, even if it is 93M miles away?
That is an incomplete model.. because it also doesn't take into account the changes in the composition of the atmosphere.... and the geosphere...
all things which ARE revelvant as they dictate the ammount of heat that reaches the Earth from the Sun.
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The Sun causes X% of the average global temperature. Humans buring fossil fuels causes Y% of the average global temperature.
ok, and? As YOU yourself ponted out.. the Earth is much smaller than the Sun.... so it wouldn't take much for US to change the atmosphere and in turn allowing more heat to get to the planet....
along side of that.... IS the issue of greenhouse gas.. trapping heat in...
based on all of this.. the output of the Sun DOES NOT MATTER. It is ALL about WHAT our Earth does with the Sun's output AND everything else that causes heat.. geothermal activity and the like..
I think it's not as simple as your brain seems to be making it.
#284REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 06 2007 at 12:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes, key variables were ommitted. I linked to a 800k year magnetic field flip cycle, and the data of the global warming studies goes back the furthest I've seen, 650k, which is not long enough to take into account the effect of weakening Earth magnetic field. You got those links.
Monx's cat's breath smells like *****. Prove me wrong Monx.
MonxDoT wrote:
Yes, key variables were ommitted. I linked to a 800k year magnetic field flip cycle
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#287REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 06 2007 at 12:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That's sums up perfectly why you are all morans with no credibility on this issue. We'll just assume it doesn't matter. We'll just assume it's static. We'll just be oblivious to the Big Picture of why the Earth is the temperature it is. Exactly my point. And you did it so well for what, 4 pages?
I'm going to pretend that you all actually already KNEW the information presented in all of the links in this thread 
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This is a true internet battle
MonxDot suffers from Micropenis and likes ghey buttseks.
True story.
Oh yes, almost forgot. Cite.
The link is scientific and therefore must be deemed WS.
Edited, Feb 6th 2007 3:48pm by Elderon
True story.
Oh yes, almost forgot. Cite.
The link is scientific and therefore must be deemed WS.
Edited, Feb 6th 2007 3:48pm by Elderon
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Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
based on all of this.. the output of the Sun DOES NOT MATTER.
That's sums up perfectly why you are all morans with no credibility on this issue. We'll just assume it doesn't matter. We'll just assume it's static. We'll just be oblivious to the Big Picture of why the Earth is the temperature it is. Exactly my point. And you did it so well for what, 4 pages?
based on all of this.. the output of the Sun DOES NOT MATTER.
That's sums up perfectly why you are all morans with no credibility on this issue. We'll just assume it doesn't matter. We'll just assume it's static. We'll just be oblivious to the Big Picture of why the Earth is the temperature it is. Exactly my point. And you did it so well for what, 4 pages?
whether it is static or not doesn't matter. Are we going to do something about it? Whether it fluxuates or changes in a million year cycle.... IT DOES NOT MATTER.
The CRUX of the whole thing is the Earth's abiltiy to handle and contain and process the energy that comes from it's heat sources:
A: The Sun
B: Magma
So what.. you are suggesting that the Sun is to blame? well potato potaato... It all depends on which part of the scale you chose to look at it from.
If you have PROOF that the Sun is actually causing Global warming then spill it.
If you are claiming that the Earth is not getting Warmer.... the you are a fool.
If you are claiming that Fossil Fuels have Zero effect on these things because the heat of the Sun wouud overshadow it.. then you are also a fool. If the heat of the sun were increasing I believe there would be more dramatic changes than wha twe are seeing here.
either way ... CREDIBITLYIY? To do WHAT? GOOGLE ****?
I refused to look up a single bit of info for this argument.Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
B: "Magma"
MetalJeff wrote:
Elderon wrote:
MonxDot suffers from Micropenis and likes ghey buttseks.
True story.
Oh yes, almost forgot. Cite.
The link is scientific and therefore must be deemed WS.
Edited, Feb 6th 2007 3:48pm by Elderon
True story.
Oh yes, almost forgot. Cite.
The link is scientific and therefore must be deemed WS.
Edited, Feb 6th 2007 3:48pm by Elderon
Elderon suffers from Mental Retardation
I'm having a hard time deciding what's more amusing to me: the fact that Monxy is so blatantly retarded and yet convinced of his own infabillity, or that someone out there is enough of a space cadet to actually buy what he's selling.
What can I say? I'm bored.Vinnie & Co.'s conclusions regarding solar & magentic causes vs. anthropogenic causes for climate change (at least, which ones were of the most significance) are described in the gripping article "On long-term variations of simple geomagnetic indices and slow changes in magnetospheric currents: The emergence of anthropogenic global warming after 1990?" (again, in Earth & Planetary Science Letters) which indicates that, regardless of prior geomagnetic causes, anthropogenic factors were the dominant force in climate change from the late 1980's onward.
Now, I suppose if Monx wants to wikipedia up something more compelling than that, we might be on to something.
Vincent Courtillot, "Are there connections between the Earth's magnetic field and climate?" in Earth & Planetary Science Letters wrote:
Understanding climate change is an active topic of research. Much of the observed increase in global surface temperature over the past 150 years occurred prior to the 1940s and after the 1980s. The main causes invoked are solar variability, changes in atmospheric greenhouse gas content or sulfur due to natural or anthropogenic action, or internal variability of the coupled ocean–atmosphere system. Magnetism has seldom been invoked, and evidence for connections between climate and magnetic field variations have received little attention. We review evidence for correlations which could suggest such (causal or non-causal) connections at various time scales (recent secular variation ∼10–100 yr, historical and archeomagnetic change ∼100–5000 yr, and excursions and reversals ∼10^3–10^6 yr), and attempt to suggest mechanisms.
Now, I suppose if Monx wants to wikipedia up something more compelling than that, we might be on to something.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
MetalJeff wrote:
Okay, I'll steer this in another direction.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I pray to the Sun god every morning not to rape the Earth mother.
I ride a bicycle way more than I drive. Basically anytime I travel about in town it's on the bike.
Now that I have redeemed myself in MetalJeff's eyes and have reobtained my right to argue, I pose the question: Who's a bigger cUnt, MonxTwat or the ****** who follows him?
Now that I have redeemed myself in MetalJeff's eyes and have reobtained my right to argue, I pose the question: Who's a bigger cUnt, MonxTwat or the ****** who follows him?
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