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#1 Jan 25 2007 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
First it's Gibson slurring the Jews, then comes Kramer on blacks, now it's this schmuck on ****. Christ, when are people going to learn to live with their personal prejudices and own up to the fact that they are not perfect. Everyone hates someone else, it's just life. Stand up and be proud to say "I have an extreme distaste for ______________. I feel this way because ________________. If you don't like it GFY with a hot and rusty fire poker.

I've getting sick of all the bleeding vags in the media these days. Are people that thin skinned that everything makes them /butthurt? I'm beginning to think that everone is show biz is neutered.


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LOS ANGELES - Isaiah Washington, who does the healing as a doctor on "Grey's Anatomy," is the patient now.

He's in therapy for his use of an anti-gay slur against a castmate.

"With the support of my family and friends, I have begun counseling. I regard this as a necessary step toward understanding why I did what I did and making sure it never happens again," Washington said in a statement Wednesday. "I appreciate the fact that I have been given this opportunity and I remain committed to transforming my negative actions into positive results, personally and professionally."

Washington took a break from filming Tuesday to meet with gay rights activists and offer help in educating the public about the cruelty of such words, an offer the activists called sincere.

Whether Washington was receiving outpatient counseling or had entered a facility was not specified, and the statement did not indicate whether he would miss work on the show.

Washington's publicist, Kelly Mullens, declined to comment further. A call to ABC about the effect on production of the hit TV show was not immediately returned Wednesday.

Series creator and executive producer Shonda Rhimes issued her own statement, at once criticizing Washington for his use of the word "******" about co-star T.R. Knight and lauding Washington's decision to seek help.

"I speak for all the executive producers here at `Grey's Anatomy' when I say that Isaiah Washington's use of such a disturbing word was a shocking and dismaying event that insulted not only gays and lesbians everywhere, but anyone who has ever struggled for respect in a world that is not always accepting of difference," Rhimes said.

She said she's been working within "the `Grey's family" and with ABC and the Touchstone Television studio to address the issue "in a way that underscores the gravity of the situation while giving us all a foundation for healing."

"We applaud and encourage Isaiah's realization that he needs help and his subsequent choice to seek immediate treatment for his behavioral issues," Rhimes said.

She expressed appreciation to fans during this "stressful time" and said those involved with the show would continue to "make the best television we can."

It was during an on-set quarrel last October with co-star
Patrick Dempsey that Washington reportedly used the slur about Knight, who was not present. Although Washington apologized publicly at the time, the issue boiled up again at the Jan. 15 Golden Globes when he denied using the epithet.

After being criticized last week by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation and ABC, Washington issued an apology.

He met Tuesday with the heads of GLAAD and Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, who said Washington agreed to efforts to fight bias but that no specifics were reached.

ABC and Touchstone Television are owned by Walt Disney Co.
#2 Jan 25 2007 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
Its all smoke and mirrors, Gibson still hates Jews, Kramer hates the Nagers and Isaiah despite much "counseling" will still hate ****. Its all PR.
#3 Jan 25 2007 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
Soracloud the Charming wrote:
Its all smoke and mirrors, Gibson still hates Jews, Kramer hates the Nagers and Isaiah despite much "counseling" will still hate ****. Its all PR.
The point is I know this, you know this and I'd like to assume that most other people know this too. Who are they jumping through the hoops for? The media really must be grabbing for straws if they think that's news.
#4 Jan 25 2007 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty sure that I read about it here, but some time ago I was checking out a site that dealt with implicit bias. Prejudice and bias are a natural part of the human condition, it's how we're built. It effects a much larger part of our behavior than most people realize. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not liking something because it's different; however, there eventually needs to be a line drawn where you still need to treat people like people. That's what laws are for. Calling someone a *** doesn't break any laws that I am aware of.

Ahh, found the link.

Incidentally, you are all a bunch of ****. Sue me.
#5 Jan 25 2007 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I have nothing of real value to add, other than I agree with the general thoughts of everyone on this issue, except this:

Jacobsdeception wrote:
Incidentally, you are all a bunch of ****. Sue me.


That I don't agree with.


Post pharm for me!

Edited, Jan 25th 2007 11:22am by Metastophicleas
#6 Jan 25 2007 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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I applaud his decision to go to counselling. If he has a prejudice, that's no biggie, we all have them. However, he crossed the line by calling someone he knew and had a working relationship with a racial slur. If I was overseeing that cast I would have not let him come back to work until he dealt with whatever 5-year-old caricature was sitting on his shoulder telling him it was okay to call someone a slur and act unprofessional just because he was uncomfortable with him being late. It wasn't even like he tried to hump his leg or anything.
He made a mental leap that denotes a severe misundestanding of proper behavior, and it's a good thing he's going to take care of whatever issues make him such a thin-skinned asshat that he can't take a gay man working with him.
#7 Jan 25 2007 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elderon wrote:
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Stand up and be proud to say "I have an extreme distaste for ______________. I feel this way because ________________. If you don't like it GFY with a hot and rusty fire poker.


Yeah, that's not going to happen (except at a Klan rally or **** circle jerk). If they want to continue to work, they'll just keep their mouths shut about their bigoted beliefs...just like most people do in society.

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Who are they jumping through the hoops for?


Again, for the people who will hire them for work, advertisers, and for the people who will pay to watch their work (well, if Washington ever does films). Gibson doesn't really need to work anymore, but when he does, he would like people to show up to his films to pay back investors and such.

I could be wrong, but their are blacks, gays, and yes, even jews working in the entertainment industry. Smiley: yikes Richards, Gibson, and Washington don't want to be blacklisted from their industry, however, I'm thinking too little too late.



Edited, Jan 25th 2007 8:34am by Smoggy
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#8 Jan 25 2007 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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I applaud his decision to go to counselling. If he has a prejudice, that's no biggie, we all have them. However, he crossed the line by calling someone he knew and had a working relationship with a racial slur. If I was overseeing that cast I would have not let him come back to work until he dealt with whatever 5-year-old caricature was sitting on his shoulder telling him it was okay to call someone a slur and act unprofessional just because he was uncomfortable with him being late. It wasn't even like he tried to hump his leg or anything.
He made a mental leap that denotes a severe misundestanding of proper behavior, and it's a good thing he's going to take care of whatever issues make him such a thin-skinned asshat that he can't take a gay man working with him.
Sure he's a ****** for saying it out loud, but that's not going to change how he feels. Instead of "counselling" he should go to a seminar on workplace harrassment. That makes much more sense and would be a less "poosay" way to deal with it. There's a difference between trying to change your prejudice vs. how to act appropriately in your place of business.


Edit: I'm a big believer that you cannot change a person, you can just change how they act around people.

Edited, Jan 25th 2007 11:37am by Elderon
#9 Jan 25 2007 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
Soracloud the Charming wrote:
Its all smoke and mirrors, Gibson still hates Jews, Kramer hates the Nagers and Isaiah despite much "counseling" will still hate ****. Its all PR.


Well at least until he comes out of the closet.
#10 Jan 25 2007 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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I think the biggest problem is that there are people out there who look up to these celebrities. Just think, you have a child whose hero is Mel Gibson. If Mel is an anti-semite then there's a chance the child will follow in the footsteps of his hero.

I'm all for free speech, but some people are more capable of spreading hate than others. They should have to be more careful because they're in the public eye.
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#11 Jan 25 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
Iamadam wrote:
I'm Jewish and Mel Gibson hurt my feelings. /butthurt

Fiksed.
#12 Jan 25 2007 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Who are they jumping through the hoops for?


If you mean the actors, their careers. I think it has gotten to the point with "Hollywood" that America, well at least the media, cares way too much about celebrities. "I am seeking counseling, and I really want to be a better person" can be translated into, "that will shut em up" whilst still preserving their careers cause "gosh gee you know he is trying to be a better peson!". Yes they are still gonna be racist and still in the company of friends going to make racist/sexiest jokes but they still will have a shot at making the big bucks.


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The media really must be grabbing for straws if they think that's news.


Yep.
#13 Jan 25 2007 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon wrote:
Iamadam wrote:
I'm Jewish and Mel Gibson hurt my feelings. /butthurt

Fiksed.


Not quite, it was just an example. I could've used Isaiah or Michael just as easily.
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#14 Jan 25 2007 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
Iamadam wrote:
Elderon wrote:
Iamadam wrote:
I'm Jewish and Mel Gibson hurt my feelings. /butthurt

Fiksed.


Not quite, it was just an example. I could've used Isaiah or Michael just as easily.
Whatever, just give me your Jew gold and we'll call it even.
#15 Jan 25 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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#16 Jan 25 2007 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
Smoggy the Mighty wrote:

Yeah, that's not going to happen (except at a Klan rally or **** circle jerk).


Speaking of which, I watched a documentary on Neo-**** skin heads last week, followed by the history of the Klan. (On Discovery channel!) Anyway, I have never seen a bigger bunch of morans in all my years. The stuff that comes out of those people's mouths is absolutely comical. I think both groups combined had maybe an IQ of 80.
#17 Jan 25 2007 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon wrote:
Whatever, just give me your Jew gold and we'll call it even.


I'll have to find it first.
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#18 Jan 25 2007 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon wrote:
[quote=Atomicflea]There's a difference between trying to change your prejudice vs. how to act appropriately in your place of business.


Edit: I'm a big believer that you cannot change a person, you can just change how they act around people.
I agree a seminar would have been work-appropriate, but nothing was done in his workplace. The decision to seek counseling was his, and, if sincerely made, can begin to change his inner prejudcies and their resulting actions. People who say they can't change are just lazy. You can, but you have to want it.

Edited, Jan 25th 2007 12:11pm by Atomicflea
#19 Jan 25 2007 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
I have an extreme distaste for moogle fUckers. I feel this way because they're a bunch of ****. If you don't like it GFY with a hot and rusty fire poker.

#20 Jan 25 2007 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
Atomicflea wrote:
I agree a seminar would have been work-appropriate, but nothing was done in his workplace.
Sounds to me like the *** has a harrassment case against the workplace due to a poisoned work environment.

They should really do something about it. Sensitivity training for everyone!
#21 Jan 25 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
However, he crossed the line by calling someone he knew and had a working relationship with a racial slur.


When did ******* become a race?
#22 Jan 25 2007 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Mel Gibson hates Jews, Kramer who is part jewish hates blacks, and Isiah Washington who is black hates gays. All we need now is a gay celebrity who hates short Australians and we will have a nice little hate CJ going.
#23 Jan 25 2007 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Whether Washington was receiving outpatient counseling or had entered a facility was not specified


Wait, there's an inpatient option for prejudice counseling?

#24 Jan 25 2007 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
Iamadam wrote:
Elderon wrote:
Iamadam wrote:
I'm Jewish and Mel Gibson hurt my feelings. /butthurt

Fiksed.


Not quite, it was just an example. I could've used Isaiah or Michael just as easily.


By Eldy's logic, that means you're a gay black jew, I think.
#25 Jan 25 2007 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
Atomicflea wrote:
However, he crossed the line by calling someone he knew and had a working relationship with a racial slur.


When did ******* become a race?
Whoops. Smiley: lol Meant to type "ethnic". Point still valid.

Edited, Jan 25th 2007 12:13pm by Atomicflea
#26 Jan 25 2007 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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