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#1 Jan 22 2007 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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/blowsownbrainsout
#2 Jan 22 2007 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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Lawlbiffronz, that's so hardcore.

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#3 Jan 22 2007 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Well he is 55, so naturally he's pretty hardcore...
#4 Jan 22 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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He has the right to wear the t-shirt. The airline also has the right to deny him passage about their airplane. Other than the issue of a possible refund, I don't see a problem.
#5 Jan 22 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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You have to draw a line somewhere. As a business, they have every right to deny him service.

His lame "my freedom of speech got a boo-boo" is ridiculous. A 55 yr old man should know better.
#6 Jan 22 2007 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I've worn more offensive t-shirts onto airplanes before, but none of them dealing with the war on terror or Bush.

Dollars to dimes says that the guy is black.
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#7 Jan 22 2007 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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more power to him i say....

/hijack on

Griz, where did ya get that avi?

/hijack off
#8 Jan 22 2007 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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His lame "my freedom of speech got a boo-boo" is ridiculous. A 55 yr old man should know better.

Agreed. He was more than likely trying to get a media plug.

Griz, where did ya get that avi?

It was a loooong time ago. I think I just Googled avatars.
#9 Jan 22 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
Airlines think they can get away with anything these days.

Check this one out.
#10 Jan 22 2007 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
if you cant control your kid, then gtfo.
#11 Jan 22 2007 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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alchemistceno wrote:
if you cant control your kid, then gtfo.


Yep, that's about the most retarded thing I've ever read. We now know you don't have kids.
#12 Jan 22 2007 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
I myself do not have children, but I am the middle child and was the main person raising a 3yr old little boy(my little brother). I don't know how many fits I had to endure in the grocery store, just because he wanted a toy I couldn't afford. I have to agree with the parents. Children cry, that's what they do.
As for the t-shirt, my father always told me, "Your freedom of speech ends when another person's comfort zone begins." We have the right to free speech yes, but that doesn't mean people don't get offended. The airline had every right to refuse service, it is their business after all.
#13 Jan 22 2007 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Would a person REALLY get offended enough to start a fight ON the airplane? I think the T-shirt was blown WAY out of the water. It could have been handled a lot more effectively, but also the guy should have known (at 55 years old) that the shirt might cause problems and thus he should have had something else to change into.

I say both parties are at fault in this retarded incident, but I would think the airline company took it the step too far with denying him the right to board. A T-shirt isn't going to cause anyone physical harm, and to be honest, the only people who will see it after everyone is seated is a couple flight attendants and anyone who happens to walk past him going to the bathroom.

Get over it eh?
#14 Jan 22 2007 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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MissKadrian wrote:
"Your freedom of speech ends when another person's comfort zone begins."


That may be the most retarded notion ever advanced on these boards (and there have been some doozies.)

If we curtail our speech to make sure no one is discomfitted by what we say, then THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Because someone is ALWAYS going to be discomfitted, no matter what we say. So unless you want to be a country of mutes, this idea is utterly absurd.

#15 Jan 22 2007 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Roller wrote:
Would a person REALLY get offended enough to start a fight ON the airplane?


Hell, most people wouldn't even NOTICE it on an airplane. Seriously. How often do you notice the apparel of other passengers? How often do you even have the opportunity to notice? When they pass you on their way to their seats or the bathroom? That assumes you're even paying attention, and not messing with your Ipod/PSP/laptop. When you pass them on your way to your seat or bathroom? They're hunched over in their little space and as you're passing by, they're stowing their luggage, they're messing with their Ipod/PSP/laptop, they're napping covered with a blanket...and even if none of these things are true, you're only in line of sight of what they're wearing for a second, providing you're even looking.

Honestly...name for me the last thing you noticed a fellow passenger on an airplane wearing?

Logistically, the odds of many people even noticing what he was wearing aren't that high. The odds of someone being offended by it (given the popularity of the US and Dubya in other countries) are even less, and the odds of someone being VIOLENTLY offended by it are infinitisimal.

#16 Jan 23 2007 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
Ok, I want this T-shirt.

If it's going to cause that much of a stink, it needs to be in my closet. I have a Red, White and Blue Democrat dinner (I get to meet Edwards, again, Clinton and Obama.) coming up. Be perfect for it.
#17 Jan 23 2007 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
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I have this "vintage" t-shirt that belonged to my dad from the 1980's that says I Hate Michael Jackson across the front of it. It was funny when this shirt was new, at the height of Thriller and all that, but now I can't wear it without feeling bad.

Way to spoil my fun, Jacko.
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#18 Jan 23 2007 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Dollars to dimes says that the guy is black.


They don't have black people in Australia. Well they do have aborigenes, but they're not really black, just sun-tanned.

Anyway, this is so stupid. Unless you are married to the guy, who care about a stupid Bush T-Shirt? How can anyone be offended by it?

Two night ao, I saw a show on TV called "Tourette de France", about these English people who suffered from Tourette's syndrome and were taken on a tour of France. They explained how subconscisously, they thought of the worst thing they could say in a given situation, and then tried very hard not to say it. As in they couldn't help thinking "I betetr not say that", and then it would of course come out.

When they got to the border guards during the trip between England and France, they would walk to officers and randomly shout "BOMB!!", or "TERRORIST!!". As soon as one kicked off, all the others did too. It was quite hilarious, apart from the poor custom guys ho didn't know what the hell was going on.

Anyway, all this to say that saying "terrorist" on an airplane isn't going to make it blow up. And if someone really was from Al-Q, I highly doubt they would wear such a T-shirt.
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#19 Jan 23 2007 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Ambrya wrote:
MissKadrian wrote:
"Your freedom of speech ends when another person's comfort zone begins."


That may be the most retarded notion ever advanced on these boards (and there have been some doozies.)

If we curtail our speech to make sure no one is discomfitted by what we say, then THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Because someone is ALWAYS going to be discomfitted, no matter what we say. So unless you want to be a country of mutes, this idea is utterly absurd.



I think you took it the wrong way. Sounds more to me like a satirical comment than an actual philosophy.

Ambrya wrote:
Hell, most people wouldn't even NOTICE it on an airplane... blah blah blah, so on so forth


Thus why he stated in the next paragraph of his post

Roller wrote:
the only people who will see it after everyone is seated is a couple flight attendants and anyone who happens to walk past him going to the bathroom.
#20 Jan 23 2007 at 9:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ever notice they won't let you express your freedom of speech by demonstrating on private property?

Guess what an airplane is...
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