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#27 Jan 19 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I hear the argument all the time for deer hunting, that they are thinning the herd and making the herd stronger, just like a wolf or cougar would do. The problem there is hunters usually kill the biggest, healthiest buck so they can have a nice trophy, where as natural predators thin out the old and weak in the herd.
True, but with a lot of deer it's not even so much playing "survival of the fittest" so much as it's "prevent the entire herd from starving and stripping the region clear of anything green". Not perfect, but I can see the wisdom behind it.
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#28 Jan 19 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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I see so many dead deer by the side of the raod... it would feed a starving village for a year.


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#29 Jan 19 2007 at 9:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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And did you send them to a starving village? I'm sure a bunch of starving Somalians would like nothing more than a cardboard UPS box full of eight day old roadkill deer Smiley: laugh
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#30 Jan 19 2007 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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Hey, that's what spices were invented for and no; I was too busy trying to make it to McDonalds before they stop serving the McGriddles.
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#31 Jan 19 2007 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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/nods at Moe

I rough-shoot (Walking through fields and woodland with a shotgun and a dog for tracking and retrieving). Pheasant, grouse, partridge, duck etc. Depends on the season, but always for the oven or the freezer.

I don't even like peg shooting (a bunch of haw-haw's standing at designated places while beaters scare the birds towards them) - might as well go shoot em in a cage.

I have hunted deer, but as part of a cull. I remember watching a 70 year old gamekeeper having to wipe the tear from his eyes as he aimed at an old stag that was selected for the cull. He'd watched it grow over the years but it's time had come. Just something that needs doing.

Simple mathematics. If an area can sustain a herd of say 20, and the herd grows to 25, the whole herd is undernourished. Still-births and illness take their toll now we have no natural predators left (The haw-haw's wiped out Britain's wolves and bears centuries ago).

That said, plants deserve everything the little green evil fUckers get.
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#32 Jan 19 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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I eat meat.
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#33 Jan 19 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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BloodwolfeX wrote:

I don't have an issue with hunting for food. It's the sport/trophy hunting I have issues with. I hear the argument all the time for deer hunting, that they are thinning the herd and making the herd stronger, just like a wolf or cougar would do. The problem there is hunters usually kill the biggest, healthiest buck so they can have a nice trophy, where as natural predators thin out the old and weak in the herd.


Yeah but those weaker ones they don't shoot at grow up to be the bigger ones next year. Gives them all a chance to rise to the top. And the only reason they're bigger is because they haven't been killed yet.


As for vegetarians I could care less what someone else chooses to eat. The problem I have is when they try to preach and push it on to everyone else.
#34 Jan 19 2007 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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The problem I have is when they try to preach and push it on to everyone else.

Same with non-smokers. First, you seclude the smokers from the rest of the population in restaurants, you take the whole airplane to yourself, and pretty soon, We won't even be able to smoke in bars. BARS!

Public health be damned!
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#35 Jan 19 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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I don't hunt because I would have a rough time killing anything. My brother and I had pet chicks when we were little, and they grew up to be a cute pair, but contracted moquillo (not sure what that is in English), and when the rooster died, the hen had to be sacrificed. My grandfather tried to teach my mother to wring its neck, and she cried the whole time and ended up with the poor thing running around the yard with its neck at a right angle before my granpa took pity on it and finished it off.

I cry at goddamn Pampers commercials, so I couldn't do it, but I do love the taste of meat so I'd be a hypocrite if I decried eating it.
#36 Jan 19 2007 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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I don't hunt because I would have a rough time killing anything. My brother and I had pet chicks when we were little, and they grew up to be a cute pair, but contracted moquillo (not sure what that is in English), and when the rooster died, the hen had to be sacrificed. My grandfather tried to teach my mother to wring its neck, and she cried the whole time and ended up with the poor thing running around the yard with its neck at a right angle before my granpa took pity on it and finished it off.

I cry at goddamn Pampers commercials, so I couldn't do it, but I do love the taste of meat so I'd be a hypocrite if I decried eating it.
You should read "101 Fun Ways to Choke your Chicken".
#37 Jan 19 2007 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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You should read "101 Fun Ways to Choke your Chicken".
Why? Moquillo, choking (and grandpa, natch) killed the only chicken I ever loved! Smiley: cry
#38 Jan 19 2007 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Atomicflea wrote:
moquillo (not sure what that is in English)
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#39 Jan 19 2007 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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Distemper! That's what it was.
#40 Jan 19 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
Flea wrote:
when the rooster died, the hen had to be sacrificed.


In some sort of Incan ritual?
#41 Jan 19 2007 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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BloodwolfeX wrote:
Flea wrote:
when the rooster died, the hen had to be sacrificed.


In some sort of Incan ritual?
We didn't smoke them, we wrung their necks! Duh.
#42 Jan 19 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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the only chicken I ever loved! Smiley: cry
I do believe that's illegal in most states.





Edited, Jan 19th 2007 3:36pm by Elderon
#43 Jan 19 2007 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
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I am the little red rooster
Too lazy to crow for day
I am the little red rooster
Too lazy to crow for day

Keep everything in the farm yard upset in every way

The dogs begin to bark and hounds begin to howl
Dogs begin to bark and hounds begin to howl
Watch out strange cat people
Little red rooster's on the prowl

If you see my little red rooster
Please drive him home
If you see my little red rooster
Please drive him home
Ain't had no peace in the farm yard
Since my little red rooster's been gone
#44 Jan 19 2007 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I havnt eaten anything that had a mother for over 20 years. And no, I dont need to supplement my diet. A varied vege' diet is not the same as 'not eating meat'.

Originally gave up 'cos I didn't aprove of factory farming methods or the quality of the end result, and its effects on my health.

Now I don't eat meat 'cos I think it tastes like **** and don't aprove of the effects that it has on our environment.

Meat eating isn't a bad thing for humans to do. It is a bad thing to eat poor quality food(wich factory farmed meat is) 10 times a week, especially when combined with no knowledge or concern over the problems that face our environment due to factory farming methods.

Nothing wrong with hunting IMO. But hunting wild pigs with a buck knife and a coupla dogs is one thing. Shooting grouse with a 12 bore is the ghey.
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#45 Jan 19 2007 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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I see so many dead deer by the side of the raod... it would feed a starving village for a year.


You jest, but when I was in Alaska, they take Elk and Moose hit by cars to be dressed and used in soup kitchens. Now I will admit that when you hit a moose or an elk, the police are usually involved. So the meat is fresh when it is collected.


Just another amusing but useless factoid from my travels.

#46 Jan 19 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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hmmm. Moose steak sounds good! I've never had one of them.
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