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#27 Jan 17 2007 at 5:39 AM Rating: Default
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...or are you advocating Fascism and supression of rights.

Yes.

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#28 Jan 17 2007 at 5:40 AM Rating: Decent
Speaking of, how is the little one? Does he still have that eternally grumpy look on his face, or has he lightened up? :)
#29 Jan 17 2007 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
LAST night I started downloading the new release of a particular beta. Wheee!
#30 Jan 17 2007 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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Althrun wrote:
Speaking of, how is the little one? Does he still have that eternally grumpy look on his face, or has he lightened up? :)

hehe he's lightened up and then some. It looks like he was lactose intolerant so I had to cut out all lactose milk products and he's blossomed since. Hubbys taught him how to stick out his tongue and even raspberry on command, which cracks us up. Here's a couple pics from ten minutes ago

Hanging out

smiling

laughing at me

Edited, Jan 17th 2007 9:04am by DSD
#31 Jan 17 2007 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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I've been a practicing satanist for quite some time
You totally quit on Satan Smiley: frown
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#32 Jan 17 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Good
Very cute DSD Smiley: inlove


I like the shirt!
#33 Jan 17 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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OMG teh cute!

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#34 Jan 17 2007 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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So we can discuss *anything* else on an OT GAMING forum except Jesus?


You're getting a couple things messed up here:

1. You don't belong to We, so fuck off. Nobody here gives a **** what you have to say.
2. This isn't the OOT forum. That is located here. I'm sure they will appreciate you far more than We does.


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something about her awesome coffee machine


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#35 Jan 17 2007 at 6:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Soracloud the Charming wrote:
Very cute DSD Smiley: inlove


I like the shirt!



Seconded!!

Made me laugh. Smiley: laugh
#36 Jan 17 2007 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
aww, he's so cute! Mind you, that "I'm going to fucking kill you" look was also terribly cute too.
#37 Jan 17 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elderon wrote:
LAST night I started downloading the new release of a particular beta. Wheee!


I theoretically installed the alleged files this morning.
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#38 Jan 17 2007 at 7:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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/sips her insanely fresh cup of coffee
What was that, JD? ;)

Thanks guys. He is a charmer. And Althrun, he still does his "look", he just has added in laughing at not with me to his repertoire. I saw the onesie at Target with some other funny sayings and had to grab a couple. It's fitting seeing as its almost tax season =)
#39 Jan 17 2007 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
Samira wrote:
Elderon wrote:
LAST night I started downloading the new release of a particular beta. Wheee!


I theoretically installed the alleged files this morning.
I look forward to possibly seeing you there hypothetically.
#40 Jan 17 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
Jesus is alive. He is a janitor here at my place of work. I think he's "undocumented" though.
#41 Jan 17 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
I think Carlos Mencia is waaaaay overrated.

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#42 Jan 17 2007 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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I think Carlos Mencia is waaaaay overrated.

Yep, you and anyone else with half a brain and a sense of humor. The irony of his take on the mentally challenged is probably the funniest part of his act.
#43 Jan 17 2007 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
We’re talking about Jesus here, geez.

I love Jesus so much. He fills my need whole with his wholesome love goodness. I first knew our Lord was in my life in the womb. Even then I could feel him tapping me gently on the head.
#44 Jan 17 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Historically speaking Jesus is a real person, so quit trying to be the big boy copying quotes from movies and books and try not to look like such a ******.
Historically speaking there is absolutely no proof Jesus exsisted at all, especially if you treat the bible and christian text as unreliable for this purpose.

There are no documents dated during his lifetime that mention his name, there are no references to him by other cultures during his lifetime.

In fact the first reliable reference to him was writen a generation after his death.

Doesn't sound like much of a case now does it.

Conversely Roman gladiators while largely annonymous have examples whom you can find clear and detailed information on. Flamma for example fought 22 times and was awarded the the rudis (highest honour) four times.

Or are we talking about the Poker player?

Edited, Jan 17th 2007 12:33pm by tarv
#45 Jan 17 2007 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
I think Carlos Mencia is waaaaay overrated.


Aren't you french?
#46 Jan 17 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
tarv of the Seven Seas wrote:
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Historically speaking Jesus is a real person, so quit trying to be the big boy copying quotes from movies and books and try not to look like such a ******.
Historically speaking there is absolutely no proof Jesus exsisted at all, especially if you treat the bible and christian text as unreliable for this purpose.

There are no documents dated during his lifetime that mention his name, there are no references to him by other cultures during his lifetime.

In fact the first reliable reference to him was writen a generation after his death.

Doesn't sound like much of a case now does it.

Conversely Roman gladiators while largely annonymous have examples whom you can find clear and detailed information on. Flamma for example fought 22 times and was awarded the the rudis (highest honour) four times.

Or are we talking about the Poker player?

Edited, Jan 17th 2007 12:33pm by tarv
Your basing that on...? I've heard a few crack pot theorists that say Jesus is a parralel to Osiris (Maybe another egyptian god) or to that effect. Jewish and Islamic teachings both accumulate that Jesus was a Jewish teacher and was referenced in the ideology of their teachings.

If you want to say the bible is not a specific reference than the decree's from the Romans that outlawed Christianity would be thorough enough...
#47 Jan 17 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Outlawing a cult is not the same thing as verifying the existence of the cult icon.

The texts you cite are the same ones mentioned above - they were written long after Jesus supposedly lived.

It's always seemed to me that the Roman tax records should show something, if they could be found. They were good record keepers, and according to legend Jesus was born when his parents were in Bethlehem to pay their taxes.
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#48 Jan 17 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Outlawing a cult is not the same thing as verifying the existence of the cult icon.

The texts you cite are the same ones mentioned above - they were written long after Jesus supposedly lived.

It's always seemed to me that the Roman tax records should show something, if they could be found. They were good record keepers, and according to legend Jesus was born when his parents were in Bethlehem to pay their taxes.
I mean I don't know the time line on his life to the full extent but I know that he's metioned in the Qu'ran. If your going to say that he didn't exist because no tomes/writings of him were found on a guy who did not live with luxury and was not liked by the current establishment I hardly find that decent argument that he did not exist.

The only time I heard this argument was a smelly homeless man getting arrested in front of the LDS temple.
#49 Jan 17 2007 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, he's mentioned in the Qu'ran. I don't know that, but I'll take your word for it.

Islam is based on the teachings of Muhammed, who lived in the 7th Century. Seven hundred years after Jesus allegedly lived.

That's a long time for a cult to develop and become accepted as doctrine, and obviously the life of Jesus had been accepted as fact by that time.

Not saying that the absence of evidence is proof of a negative - a negative is a very hard thing to prove, anyway - but it is, in fact, the absence of evidence.
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#50 Jan 17 2007 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
I don't have blind faith, I hardly call myself a christian. This is going towards conspiracy theory way too fast for me to argue. I never really questioned he existed either.

Looking it over though they have quite a extensive read on Wikipedia, I don't know where these "facts" are about no documents but I'd love to read over them.
#51 Jan 17 2007 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't have blind faith, I hardly call myself a christian. This is going towards conspiracy theory way too fast for me to argue. I never really questioned he existed either.
It's not a conspiricy theory really, HB. it's more a pointer towards the gulibility of some christians.

The arguement goes something like this

1. Using the doctrine of a faith (The Bible) as proof that what the faith says happened in unreliable, they have a vested interest in doctoring the documents to back up thier arguements.

In a similar way scientist would not take a theory as correct untill it had been robustly investigated by other (probably sceptical) scientists.

So in order to prove the exsistance of Jesus it is necessary to look outside the faith to examine independent sources if you like. The problem is there are very few (2 that i know of) and both are very tenuous to say the least and even they are written a generation after he lived.

2. alot of the supposed Knowlage of Jesus's life as spouted by those persons are not backed up even by biblical scholar's. Christmas for example is not on christs "birthday" as you would be lead to believe and is linked to conversion of the Pagan religions celebrating the winter solstice.

realistically no-one would argue that he didn't exsist, but it is very doubtful that he was particularly important to anyone but a small sect during his lifetime and even more doubtful that the biblical stories have any basis on fact.

Christianity is a smorgasboard of stolen religious stories from older religions. Halo's, Rebirth, Christmas, even the cross are from other religions.

This should not take away from the underlying direction that christianity takes, indeed it's mindset is imbued into all our psyches "Thou shalt not kill"

But feeding the 5000?, walking on water? pull the other one.

*edit: cuz i kant spel

Edited, Jan 17th 2007 5:35pm by tarv
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