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#1 Jan 11 2007 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
From James Randi's site, more proof that the Bush Administration is a big steaming pile of anti-science putz:

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THE GRAND CANYON'S AGE

How old? Well, the official stance on that question when asked of the National Park Service – a federal agency supported by our tax dollars! – is that they don't know! That's a lie. They do know, but they're not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees. This is a direct, illegal, catering to the creationist nuts.

Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) report that despite promising a prompt review of its approval for a book – "Grand Canyon: A Different View" – claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood rather than by geologic forces – no review has ever been done, and that book, a creationist book production, remains on sale at the park. That review was promised three years ago. Says PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch:

In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology. It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is "no comment."

In August of 2003, Park Superintendent Joe Alston attempted to block the sale of the book at park bookstores at the Grand Canyon. The book claims that the canyon developed on a Biblical, rather than an evolutionary, time scale. The National Park Service Headquarters, however, intervened and overruled Alston. To explain, NPS Chief of Communications David Barna told reporters and members of Congress that there would be a high-level policy review of the issue. According to a recent NPS response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by PEER, no such review was ever requested, let alone conducted or completed.

I find it interesting that records now released to PEER show that during 2003, Grand Canyon officials rejected 22 books and other products for bookstore placement while approving only one new sale item – the creationist book. Ironically, in 2005, two years after the Grand Canyon creationist controversy erupted, the Park Service approved a new directive on "Interpretation and Education (Director's Order #6)" which reinforces the posture of the NPS. Ruling 8.4.2, titled "Historical and Scientific Research," states:

Superintendents, historians, scientists, and interpretive staff are responsible for ensuring that park interpretive and educational programs and media are accurate and reflect current scholarship…Questions often arise round the presentation of geological, biological, and evolutionary processes. The interpretive and educational treatment used to explain the natural processes and history of the Earth must be based on the best scientific evidence available, as found in scholarly sources that have stood the test of scientific peer review and criticism. The facts, theories, and interpretations to be used will reflect the thinking of the scientific community in such fields as biology, geology, physics, astronomy, chemistry, and paleontology. Interpretive and educational programs must refrain from appearing to endorse religious beliefs explaining natural processes. Programs, however, may acknowledge or explain other explanations of natural processes and events.

Come on, folks, this is a faith-based administration which ignores such directives so that religious claptrap may be freely distributed. We gave up democracy only recently, but we'd better get used to doing without it.
#2 Jan 11 2007 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I already posted that in this thread over in OOT, page 2.

Get your own material!

Me, in the OOT wrote:
BelkiraMithra the Furtive wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Let's be fair though. There aren't that many christians "complaining" about evolution being taught in public schools.


Yes, there are "that many" Christians complaining about Evolutin being taught in public schools. They are re-writing text books, they are forcing their BELIEFS into SCIENCE class.


Not just in science class. In National Parks and Monuments as well. Park officials (including tour guides) are not allowed to give an estimate of the age of the Grand Canyon for fear of offending creationists. Of the 23 books submitted for approval in the park's bookstore in 2003, only one was approved--the one that stated that the Grand Canyon was formed by Noah's flood.

It's all part of the Faith-Based Parks initiative.

Now Gbaji, do tell us again how the Bush administration is actually moderate.



Edited, Jan 11th 2007 8:34am by Ambrya
#3 Jan 11 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
Not to mention our national parks are in historically bad disrepair thanks to ole Nuk-u-lers's massive funding cuts.

Seriously though everyone knows the Grand Canyon was formed when mighty Xenon took a **** 2 million years ago to mark this territory for Xience. Duh.
#4 Jan 11 2007 at 8:58 AM Rating: Default
Ambrya wrote:
Yeah, I already posted that in this thread over in OOT, page 2.

Get your own material!

Me, in the OOT wrote:
BelkiraMithra the Furtive wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Let's be fair though. There aren't that many christians "complaining" about evolution being taught in public schools.


Yes, there are "that many" Christians complaining about Evolutin being taught in public schools. They are re-writing text books, they are forcing their BELIEFS into SCIENCE class.


Not just in science class. In National Parks and Monuments as well. Park officials (including tour guides) are not allowed to give an estimate of the age of the Grand Canyon for fear of offending creationists. Of the 23 books submitted for approval in the park's bookstore in 2003, only one was approved--the one that stated that the Grand Canyon was formed by Noah's flood.

It's all part of the Faith-Based Parks initiative.

Now Gbaji, do tell us again how the Bush administration is actually moderate.



Edited, Jan 11th 2007 8:34am by Ambrya


Ah, well... as I told Jacobsdeception in another thread, I don't read more than four or five posts down. That would require, like, SCROLLING and I really can't be bothered.

Must have missed your post on the OOT when I was on vacation.

Still: BUSH ADMINISTRATION HOLY CARP DIE DIE DIE!

That is all.
#5 Jan 11 2007 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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bloodywilliam the Brilliant wrote:
HOLY CARP DIE DIE DIE!

That is all.

Damn holy carp.
#6 Jan 11 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes...because everything that is wrong with this planet is the fault of one man, not EVERY ******* MAN, WOMAN, CHILD, AND ANIMAL ALIVE (I blame the cows).

When was the last time you planted a tree, or donated your time to fix a park? When was the last time ANY of you did anything but ***** and moan. ****, my guy didn't win either, and you don't see me blaming the worlds woes on Bush. Hell, I don't even blame Clinton for 9/11. EVERY elected official in the goverment is a FAILURE at life. Get used to it. Lord knows I am.

I am so tired of everything being someone elses fault. Personal responsability people. If you don't like it, do something about it. Oh wait...I forgot, that would mean going outside and getting some sun and fresh air, and that breaks the laws of the Asylum, doh.
#7 Jan 11 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
Atomicflea wrote:
bloodywilliam the Brilliant wrote:
HOLY CARP DIE DIE DIE!

That is all.

Damn holy carp.


Oh great. Now the thread degenerates into a "blaspheme the holy carp" fiasco. Like we don't have a million of those already floating around the Asylum.



Edited, Jan 11th 2007 11:17am by bloodywilliam
#8 Jan 11 2007 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
bloodywilliam the Brilliant wrote:
HOLY CARP DIE DIE DIE!

That is all.

Damn holy carp.


I almost love you.
#9 Jan 11 2007 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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bloodywilliam the Brilliant wrote:
Oh great. Now the thread degenerates into a "blaspheme the holy carp" fiasco. Like we don't have a million of those already floating around the Asylum.
Yeah. You should apologize.
#10 Jan 11 2007 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes...because everything that is wrong with this planet is the fault of one man, not EVERY @#%^ING MAN, WOMAN, CHILD, AND ANIMAL ALIVE (I blame the cows).

When was the last time you planted a tree, or donated your time to fix a park? When was the last time ANY of you did anything but ***** and moan. sh*t, my guy didn't win either, and you don't see me blaming the worlds woes on Bush. Hell, I don't even blame Clinton for 9/11. EVERY elected official in the goverment is a FAILURE at life. Get used to it. Lord knows I am.

I am so tired of everything being someone elses fault. Personal responsability people. If you don't like it, do something about it. Oh wait...I forgot, that would mean going outside and getting some sun and fresh air, and that breaks the laws of the Asylum, doh.


Um... as the article states, what's going on in the case of the Grand Canyon is a direct result of Bush Administration policies. So... uh... yeah, I blame the Bush Administration.
#11 Jan 11 2007 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not to mention our national parks are in historically bad disrepair thanks to ole Nuk-u-lers's massive funding cuts.
Shit, someone broke the Grand Canyon? Smiley: mad

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:15am by Jophiel
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#12 Jan 11 2007 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Master Shogen wrote:
Not to mention our national parks are in historically bad disrepair thanks to ole Nuk-u-lers's massive funding cuts.
Shit, someone broke the Grand Canyon? Smiley: mad


OMG I missed this while sitting in the sandbox. Thank you Joph.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:17pm by Metastophicleas
#13 Jan 11 2007 at 9:28 AM Rating: Default
Metastophicleas wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Master Shogen wrote:
Not to mention our national parks are in historically bad disrepair thanks to ole Nuk-u-lers's massive funding cuts.
Shit, someone broke the Grand Canyon? Smiley: mad


OMG I missed this while sitting in the sandbox. Thank you Joph.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:17pm by Metastophicleas


STOP SQUATTING IN MY SANDBOX! BUSH ADMINISTRATION SANDBOX POOPER!
#14 Jan 11 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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No.

I can't stand the administrations policies most of the time either.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:28pm by Metastophicleas
#15 Jan 11 2007 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
Metastophicleas wrote:
No.

I can't stand the administrations policies most of the time either.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:28pm by Metastophicleas


Then how do you explain all the **** in the sandbox? Hmmmmmm? It didn't just get there by itself. And you can't blame it on Clinton.
#16 Jan 11 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I blame them all.
#17 Jan 11 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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Metastophicleas wrote:
I blame them all.
I blame you
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#18 Jan 11 2007 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Good for you. Feel better?
#19 Jan 11 2007 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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That reminds me that I need to send a check to the Sierra Club to cover more then just the cost of my membership, the magazine and a niffy backpack.

Seems Bush wants to log in and around my favorite giant Sequoia groves and so they ask for my help.
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