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#52 Jan 11 2007 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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LMAO

Ach, you can't be serious...

Are you a real conservative, or a neo-con? My vote is on the latter, because you're obviously drinking the kool-aid.

Bush may be a good guy, but he's not doing a good job as president. At best he's par for the course, at worst he's a complete cluster@#%^ in action.

He's increased the size of the goverment, screwed any chance we've had to get rid of Al-Queada for good, put us completely in debt to China, and @#%^ed us all over when it comes to inflation thanks to that trade imbalance.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 1:36pm by Metastophicleas
#53 Jan 11 2007 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Of course the fact that Christians are also involved in 95% of the worlds conflicts should also be pointed out


(I can use made up numbers too!)
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#54 Jan 11 2007 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
achileez wrote:
Jophed,

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It's cause we hate Muslims!

We liked Lebanon more when they had a Christian majority.


Probably because Christians don't tend to want to massacre anyone who doesen't believe in allah.

Varus


No. Christians just want to kill abortion doctors. And gays.
#55 Jan 11 2007 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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That only counts if you use historical wars. Or the handful of people that are actually Christians...
#56 Jan 11 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Metastophicleas wrote:
That only counts if you use historical wars. Or the handful of people that are actually Christians...
So you're saying that if you manipulate the numbers enough to make Muslims to blame, it means that Muslims are to blame?
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#57REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2007 at 10:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bloody,
#58REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2007 at 10:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bhodi,
#59 Jan 11 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
achileez wrote:
Sadly there are people that bomb abortion clinics. How often does that happen? And do mainstream Christians condone those acts? You know the answer to those questions. Unfortunately you're such and idiot I doubt you'll be intellectually honest with the reality of the situation.

Varus


Do mainstream Muslims condone the acts of their fringe terrorist organizations? You're just jealous because the Muslims have Al Qaeda and you guys haven't been able to muster up ONE SINGLE DECENT terrorist group to bomb innocents.

Yet.
#60 Jan 11 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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achicheeez wrote:


You like deluding yourself don't you? Just because we don't accept homosexuality

Sadly there are people that bomb abortion clinics. How often does that happen? And do mainstream Christians condone those acts? You know the answer to those questions. Unfortunately you're such and idiot I doubt you'll be intellectually honest with the reality of the situation.



But 72 percent of the worlds homosexual population are christian!

and 67 percent of all abortions are christians as well!



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#61REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2007 at 11:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) littlewilly,
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achileez wrote:
Could be because we don't condone blowing up people who disagree with our religion.
Unless they're Muslims.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#63 Jan 11 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
achileez wrote:
Could be because we don't condone blowing up people who disagree with our religion.
Unless they're Muslims.


Joph is my new favorite person.
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#65 Jan 11 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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You're a christian so you probably do as well, at least according to the numbers!
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#66REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2007 at 11:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#67 Jan 11 2007 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
achileez wrote:
littlewilly,

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Joph is my new favorite person.


we know you swing that way.

Varus


Good thing I don't. Or you and the rest of the self-deluded Jesus huggers would want to KILL ME.

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On the contrary self defense is always justifiable. We're not trying to convert these muslims. Just kill the ones who are trying to convert us at point of a sword. But we know you defend rapists and murderers so you're stance is no surprise.

Varus


How come at the end of every post you place your name? What's the point of having a sock to write dumbass **** if you're just going to claim every single piece of dumbass ****?

I'm confused.
#68REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2007 at 11:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) littlewilly,
#69 Jan 11 2007 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
achileez wrote:
littlewilly,

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I'm confused.


That's to be expected.

Varus


Better to be confused than to be hopelessly self-deluded and certain that you're absolutely right about everything when you're a total tool.

I SWIM and SPLASH in my confusion like a penguin at play.
#70 Jan 11 2007 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Metastophicleas wrote:
That only counts if you use historical wars. Or the handful of people that are actually Christians...
So you're saying that if you manipulate the numbers enough to make Muslims to blame, it means that Muslims are to blame?


My point is that you don't see Christians out and about murdering people name of their religion anymore.

Several centuries ago, yes. Today no.

The rest is to note that it's likely that most people who claim to be Christians, don't understand what it means to be a Christian, or what makes them Christians. It comes down to something stupid like: "I go to church, I'm a Christian". Nevermind that whole accepting that Christ died for your sins or anything...

I personally don't blame Islam for anything. You can find wackos in any group. The flip side of that is this: How many non-Muslims have you seen blow themselves up (non-accidental), or remove heads in the name of their god, for the sake of forwarding their cause?

The people that I hold accountable are the ones that commit such acts. Not the guy that lives next door to me that bows to the East five times each day.
#71 Jan 11 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
Metastophicleas wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Metastophicleas wrote:
That only counts if you use historical wars. Or the handful of people that are actually Christians...
So you're saying that if you manipulate the numbers enough to make Muslims to blame, it means that Muslims are to blame?


My point is that you don't see Christians out and about murdering people name of their religion anymore.

Several centuries ago, yes. Today no.

The rest is to note that it's likely that most people who claim to be Christians, don't understand what it means to be a Christian, or what makes them Christians. It comes down to something stupid like: "I go to church, I'm a Christian". Nevermind that whole accepting that Christ died for your sins or anything...

I personally don't blame Islam for anything. You can find wackos in any group. The flip side of that is this: How many non-Muslims have you seen blow themselves up (non-accidental), or remove heads in the name of their god, for the sake of forwarding their cause?

The people that I hold accountable are the ones that commit such acts. Not the guy that lives next door to me that bows to the East five times each day.


Yes, but the problem is deeper than the fact that there are "fringe" factions of any and all religions. The problem is that ALL religious belief serves to legitimize the beliefs of the airline hijackers and the abortion doctor killers. And that's why it all needs to be CRUSHED WITH AN IRON FIST DIE CHRISTIAN DIE!

That last part was just to **** off Varus.
#72 Jan 11 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Good thing I don't. Or you and the rest of the self-deluded Jesus huggers would want to KILL ME.


Why is it that people think that Christians would want to kill them because they feel certain lifestyles are immoral?

Wasn't it said in the Bible to "hate the sin, but love the sinner"? Just because you (general, not personal) like to take it up the exit hole, doesn't mean you should die, or that we couldn't be friends. All it means is that I don't like that, and wouldn't do it myself. What you do in your life is your business. I may/may not like it, but so what?

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 2:24pm by Metastophicleas
#73 Jan 11 2007 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Metastophicleas wrote:


My point is that you don't see Christians out and about murdering people name of their religion anymore.

Several centuries ago, yes. Today no.
Druze Militia? UVF & IRA until recently?

FuCking Idiot.

And while it may not be a widely shared feeling, as a former Christian, I despise Dubya and Bliar's hypocricy using their Christian Faith and Values to justify bombing entire civilian towns when the bad guys hide out there.

A bank-robber hides out in your neighboUrhood? Tough ****** j00z all goin' to die!

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#74 Jan 11 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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Metastophicleas wrote:
Wasn't it said in the Bible to "hate the sin, but love the sinner"?
No
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#75 Jan 11 2007 at 11:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Metastophicleas wrote:
My point is that you don't see Christians out and about murdering people name of their religion anymore.
You'd need some pretty strong evidence that the Muslim conflicts are faith-based for that line of reasoning to hold water and I think you'll have a tough time providing it.

Many (I dare say most) of the conflicts involving Muslims in Europe, Asia, Africa -- hell, even in the Middle East -- have more to do with territory, political power and wealth than they do religion.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#76 Jan 11 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
Metastophicleas wrote:
My point is that you don't see Christians out and about murdering people name of their religion anymore.
You'd need some pretty strong evidence that the Muslim conflicts are faith-based for that line of reasoning to hold water and I think you'll have a tough time providing it.

Many (I dare say most) of the conflicts involving Muslims in Europe, Asia, Africa -- hell, even in the Middle East -- have more to do with territory, political power and wealth than they do religion.


What happens is, a people are repressed and they lack the means to fight back. Someone comes along and plays to their ignorance (religion) to unify them and begin a long scale guerilla war. Thus, the war against oppression becomes a holy war.

It's an effective means to unifying a people to die for a cause. But as Joph implied, it is more a means to an end, and not the cause for these conflicts.
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