The phone is exclusive to Cingular Wireless, of At&T Ma Bell monopoly infamy, for at least a few years. Plus, you need to sign up for a TWO YEAR CONTRACT! Bleh, like gag me with an iPhizone.
Time to cash in those AAPL shares. Sell high. And for those keeping track, XMSR up over 10% today, SIRI up over 7%.
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Well, that didn't take long for the lawsuits to start. This is how the big boys share. This is your government Patent and Copyright laws in effect. I don't know how all those John Smiths out there can peacefully coexist. Guess if I trademark and patent my winky, you all are going to have to pay me royalties or cut yours off.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566514/
Cisco Systems sues Apple over iPhone
Firm trademarked name before iPod maker’s announcement
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:19am by MonxDoT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566514/
Cisco Systems sues Apple over iPhone
Firm trademarked name before iPod maker’s announcement
Quote:
SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Inc.’s much-ballyhooed iPhone was unveiled this week after 30 months and millions of dollars in top-secret development. But the sleek new iPod-cellular phone combination could wind up costing the company a lot more.
Cisco Systems Inc., the world’s largest networking equipment maker, sued Apple in San Francisco federal court on Wednesday, claiming that Apple’s iPhone violates its trademark.
Cisco is asking the court to forbid Apple from using the name “iPhone,†which Cisco has held a trademark on since 2000 and used to brand a line of its own Internet-enabled phones that began shipping last spring and officially launched three weeks ago.
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Cisco said Apple approached the company several years ago seeking to use the name, and the two Silicon Valley tech giants have been negotiating ever since to hammer out a licensing agreement.
But Cisco said the talks broke down just hours before Apple’s chief executive, Steve Jobs, took to the stage Tuesday at the annual Macworld Conference and Expo to introduce the multimedia device.
Apple’s iPhone is a touch-screen-controlled cell phone device that plays music, surfs the Web and delivers voicemail and e-mail. The product still needs FCC approval.
While Jobs was holding court in front of thousands of Apple devotees, Cisco had given Apple lawyers until the end of the business day to finalize the contract.
The deadline came and went, and Cisco filed the lawsuit Wednesday seeking injunctive relief to prevent Apple from copying Cisco’s iPhone trademark.
“We certainly expected that since they had gone ahead and announced a product without receiving permission to use the brand, that meant that the negotiation was concluded,†said Mark Chandler, Cisco senior vice president and general counsel.
Apple argues it’s entitled to use the name iPhone because the products are materially different.
Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris called Cisco’s lawsuit “silly†and said there are already several other companies using the name iPhone for products like Cisco’s that use the increasingly popular Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP.
“We believe that Cisco’s U.S. trademark registration is tenuous at best,†she said. “Apple’s the first company to use the iPhone name for a cell phone. And if Cisco wants to challenge us on it, we’re very confident we will prevail.â€
Cisco executives argue that, despite the current dissimilarities between the Cisco and Apple iPhone, both phones could take on new features or work on different networks than they do today.
Erik Suppiger, networking specialist at Pacific Growth Equities, said that argument is sound in an era of “convergence,†when the Internet is increasingly used as a telephone network.
“I’d envision that Cisco would be inclined to add cellular functionality to its iPhone. I would not be surprised to see them add additional memory for supporting whatever media functions you might want, either — they’d be logical extensions,†Suppiger said. “The phones may not overlap right now, but they would over the foreseeable future.â€
Cisco Systems Inc., the world’s largest networking equipment maker, sued Apple in San Francisco federal court on Wednesday, claiming that Apple’s iPhone violates its trademark.
Cisco is asking the court to forbid Apple from using the name “iPhone,†which Cisco has held a trademark on since 2000 and used to brand a line of its own Internet-enabled phones that began shipping last spring and officially launched three weeks ago.
Story continues below ↓ advertisement
Cisco said Apple approached the company several years ago seeking to use the name, and the two Silicon Valley tech giants have been negotiating ever since to hammer out a licensing agreement.
But Cisco said the talks broke down just hours before Apple’s chief executive, Steve Jobs, took to the stage Tuesday at the annual Macworld Conference and Expo to introduce the multimedia device.
Apple’s iPhone is a touch-screen-controlled cell phone device that plays music, surfs the Web and delivers voicemail and e-mail. The product still needs FCC approval.
While Jobs was holding court in front of thousands of Apple devotees, Cisco had given Apple lawyers until the end of the business day to finalize the contract.
The deadline came and went, and Cisco filed the lawsuit Wednesday seeking injunctive relief to prevent Apple from copying Cisco’s iPhone trademark.
“We certainly expected that since they had gone ahead and announced a product without receiving permission to use the brand, that meant that the negotiation was concluded,†said Mark Chandler, Cisco senior vice president and general counsel.
Apple argues it’s entitled to use the name iPhone because the products are materially different.
Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris called Cisco’s lawsuit “silly†and said there are already several other companies using the name iPhone for products like Cisco’s that use the increasingly popular Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP.
“We believe that Cisco’s U.S. trademark registration is tenuous at best,†she said. “Apple’s the first company to use the iPhone name for a cell phone. And if Cisco wants to challenge us on it, we’re very confident we will prevail.â€
Cisco executives argue that, despite the current dissimilarities between the Cisco and Apple iPhone, both phones could take on new features or work on different networks than they do today.
Erik Suppiger, networking specialist at Pacific Growth Equities, said that argument is sound in an era of “convergence,†when the Internet is increasingly used as a telephone network.
“I’d envision that Cisco would be inclined to add cellular functionality to its iPhone. I would not be surprised to see them add additional memory for supporting whatever media functions you might want, either — they’d be logical extensions,†Suppiger said. “The phones may not overlap right now, but they would over the foreseeable future.â€
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:19am by MonxDoT
still dont want one. dont want to brouse the web on a 3 inch screen, and if you want to get a hold of me, im at work or at home. leave a message, mabe ill call back.
my zen does everything it does except brouse the web and make phone calls and it didnt cost me 500 bucks nor a monthly fee.
i dont have a cell phone, and this still doesnt make me want one. never owned a beeper either, even though i think they are priced about where cell phones should be priced right now.
mabe when they come out with holographic video phones, and cell phones are down to 9 bucks a month like beepers are now, ill get one. mabe.
my zen does everything it does except brouse the web and make phone calls and it didnt cost me 500 bucks nor a monthly fee.
i dont have a cell phone, and this still doesnt make me want one. never owned a beeper either, even though i think they are priced about where cell phones should be priced right now.
mabe when they come out with holographic video phones, and cell phones are down to 9 bucks a month like beepers are now, ill get one. mabe.
Yeah, I use prepaid wireless.
http://www.tracfone-orders.com
Last phone, Motorola C261, and around 620 minutes for about $120. Minutes good for up to a year.
Just check their highlighted phone + free minutes deals. Then, if you have car trouble, or meet a girl in a club, or whatever, you're good. Join the 21st century. :P
Has worked fine for me in Chicago, and worked fine out in San Jose last weekend. Sending text message = 0.3 units deducted, reading incoming text message = 0.3 units deducted.
http://www.tracfone-orders.com
Last phone, Motorola C261, and around 620 minutes for about $120. Minutes good for up to a year.
Just check their highlighted phone + free minutes deals. Then, if you have car trouble, or meet a girl in a club, or whatever, you're good. Join the 21st century. :P
Has worked fine for me in Chicago, and worked fine out in San Jose last weekend. Sending text message = 0.3 units deducted, reading incoming text message = 0.3 units deducted.
MonxDoT wrote:
Well, that didn't take long for the lawsuits to start. This is how the big boys share.
What we need is a new letter. I hearby call dibs on "t" in honor of the internet's system of tubes. Keep your eyes open for my upcoming tPhone with intratubes support.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Eh... I was hoping the price wouldn't be outragous. I'm sure unlocked ones will cost an arm and a leg on ebay.
Bets to when they introduce the "iphone nano"?
The company where I work uses stupid buzz words like "nano" in their products ie: Nanotechnology. With a product that sells for $50 there is no damn "nanotechnology" involved... especially since it was outsourced and probably produced by child labor in China... it's a freakin hair curler.
If Apple survived the Apple Corps lawsuit sure they will prevail with this one.
Bets to when they introduce the "iphone nano"?
The company where I work uses stupid buzz words like "nano" in their products ie: Nanotechnology. With a product that sells for $50 there is no damn "nanotechnology" involved... especially since it was outsourced and probably produced by child labor in China... it's a freakin hair curler.
If Apple survived the Apple Corps lawsuit sure they will prevail with this one.
Atomicflea wrote:
It took me until just this moment to realize that your name is intended to read "Deadguy" and not "Deadgay", as I was reading it up until now.
I like my version better.
I like my version better.
Funny, because any smart person would pronounce it "Dead-gee" before realising the name if supposed to be pronounced "Dead-guy".
For here this insult might be original, but based on the outbursts of singing that used to occur in my old linkshells; it's nigh impossible for me to call it original.
My cousin also likes your version better
Dear people I don't like: 凸(â—´―｀â—)凸
Jophiel wrote:
Careful! T-Mobile may come after joo!
I know...it's a stretch.
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:33pm by Smoggy
Quote:
I hearby call dibs on "t" in honor of the internet's system of tubes. Keep your eyes open for my upcoming tPhone with intratubes support.
Careful! T-Mobile may come after joo!
I know...it's a stretch.
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 12:33pm by Smoggy
'Lo, there do I see, the line of my people, back to the beginning, 'lo do they call to me, they bid me take my place among them, in the halls of Valhalla, where the brave...may live...forever.
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Quote:
Yeah, I can barely read my ipod.
A small bit of Brass-O gets rid of those scratches. You can make your iPod look like new with a small amount of work.
Here is a list to some other cleaner's that are less abrasive than Brass-O
http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2005/08/scratchremove/index.php
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 1:46pm by baelnic
Deadgay wrote:
My cousin also likes your version better
Ask Thumb about my phone sometime. She seen it, it's the lastest technology.
What model?
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
What model?
I think Kao thought I meant to type "latest" instead of "Lastest".
Edited, Jan 11th 2007 5:41pm by Rimesume
Reminds me of a Buick I used to drive. I called it the Buick "Last" Century.
Forget the iPhone, ladies. Apparently, the devil dials Prada*You can see photos of what an $800 phone looks like here. It's an old blog article though so I'm trusting the quoted Tribune article to be more accurate on the spec's.
Remember, Valentine's Day is less than a month away!
*That's the kind of line that just writes itself
The Tribune wrote:
South Korea's LG Electronics Co. said Thursday it is launching a new mobile phone that incorporates a buttonless touch-screen that resembles the much-hyped Apple Inc. iPhone -- and will be in stores next month.
LG's Prada Phone is being produced in partnership with the Italian fashion brand. It is set to go on sale in late February for 600 euros ($780) at mobile phone dealers and Prada stores in Britain, France, Germany and Italy, and comes to Asia in March.
The no-button interface with the entire phone face covered by a touch-sensitive screen resembles the Apple iPhone, announced by the U.S. company earlier this month to much fanfare as an innovation that could shake up the industry.
Apple's iPhone is set for U.S. release in June, and will cost $599 for the high-end model with 8 gigabytes of internal memory -- the same as the LG model. Other markets will see the iPhone later this year and in 2008.
The LG phone has a wide-screen display and can play most popular digital music and video formats, and has a 2-megapixel camera like the iPhone. Its memory can be expanded with cards.
LG's Prada Phone is being produced in partnership with the Italian fashion brand. It is set to go on sale in late February for 600 euros ($780) at mobile phone dealers and Prada stores in Britain, France, Germany and Italy, and comes to Asia in March.
The no-button interface with the entire phone face covered by a touch-sensitive screen resembles the Apple iPhone, announced by the U.S. company earlier this month to much fanfare as an innovation that could shake up the industry.
Apple's iPhone is set for U.S. release in June, and will cost $599 for the high-end model with 8 gigabytes of internal memory -- the same as the LG model. Other markets will see the iPhone later this year and in 2008.
The LG phone has a wide-screen display and can play most popular digital music and video formats, and has a 2-megapixel camera like the iPhone. Its memory can be expanded with cards.
Remember, Valentine's Day is less than a month away!
*That's the kind of line that just writes itself
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Next thing you know every celebrity will have their own signature phone line the same way they have their own signature perfumes. With "custom" ring tones and screens.
Announcing the new iDontwantanyfUckerscallingme TM.
Made from a single piece of oak, it has no moving parts and is guaranteed not to interrupt your leisure time.
Ring tones include 'The sound of George Bush Thinking' and 'John Kerry's charismatic speeches'.
(coming soon in **** flavoUr)
Made from a single piece of oak, it has no moving parts and is guaranteed not to interrupt your leisure time.
Ring tones include 'The sound of George Bush Thinking' and 'John Kerry's charismatic speeches'.
(coming soon in **** flavoUr)
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
My understanding is that you can selectively listen to your phone messages by clicking a menu (list of messages by phone number or person's name if available), e.g. not having to listen to the voice laboriously speak each one out which personally I find to be so 19th century (sorry Nobby, I'm sure that was a wonderful century and I'm sure re-vulcanizing your tires was just great fun).
And that this required altering of Cingular's network. Thus, take your iphone to another network and that function won't work, currently.
And that basically this was a result of Apple pushing Cingular by making the phone.
Lastly that this is in stark contrast to previous deals in which cell phone network providers decided what features they would allow.
All of this is from an NPR show last week. I cite my sources. I'm actually a stock holder of Verison - and not Apple - so...
The commentary was that Apple may be able to get this kind of innovative, streamlined functionality to all of us because of this special deal they have with Cingular and push all phones forward. According to this, say what you will about Apple, but we're eventually all years ahead of where we would be otherwise.
And that this required altering of Cingular's network. Thus, take your iphone to another network and that function won't work, currently.
And that basically this was a result of Apple pushing Cingular by making the phone.
Lastly that this is in stark contrast to previous deals in which cell phone network providers decided what features they would allow.
All of this is from an NPR show last week. I cite my sources. I'm actually a stock holder of Verison - and not Apple - so...
The commentary was that Apple may be able to get this kind of innovative, streamlined functionality to all of us because of this special deal they have with Cingular and push all phones forward. According to this, say what you will about Apple, but we're eventually all years ahead of where we would be otherwise.
One of my friends just got this phone. I'm upgrading my phone soon and am considering upgrading to this. It's an LG, a brand I don't have any experience with, so that's the only thing I'm iffy on.
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