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#1 Jan 07 2007 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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.... with what can I replace it. I don't know what prompted Apple to totally **** up iTunes, but they've managed to do it. Its now pretty much useless. What software is out there that I can use to manage my iPod music and video files?
#2 Jan 07 2007 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
How did they ***** it up? It still works just fine for me.
#3 Jan 07 2007 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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I call user error.
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Have you tried lighting a candle on fire and sticking it in your floppy drive while chanting the word "obsufrication" backwards 30 times wearing a doily on your head?

I hear that helps.

Itunes sucks.
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#5 Jan 07 2007 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Anybody interested in my "Spring-Break 1994 Mix" on cassette?

It's really good and it's labeled "Bust-a-Move!".

#6 Jan 08 2007 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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Itunes works fine for me.

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#7 Jan 08 2007 at 5:21 AM Rating: Good
iTunes is complete shiat. Here is a tip, never update the goddamn thing. I still have version 4 I think. The higher the upgrade the more "smart" it tries to be and sync with your PC for easy transfers for j00z the userz lol hipster!1!

I use Anapod Explorer from Red Chair Software Link it costs ~$16 for the downloadable program but worth it IMHO.
#8 Jan 08 2007 at 6:28 AM Rating: Good
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I turned off all the automatic stuff and Itunes became marginally better.

I still wish some of the library features were more intuitive. Even knowing what I have on their and using the built in search feature it is still a pain in the *** to navigate through all the music I have on my Itunes library.

Meanwhile finding said music on my Ipod is a breeze.
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#10 Jan 08 2007 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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Wonder if it is an American vs Canadian thing but I have not once recieved a message asking for liscensing on any of my music.
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#11 Jan 08 2007 at 7:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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il make it simple for you, something ipod would never do. windows media explorer. yep, its already on your computer.
I have something even easier. My Computer -> MP3 Player -> Music then Copy & Paste from my hard drive's music folder.

Of course, I either rip stuff off my own CDs or else use Limewire.
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#12 Jan 08 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
Of course, I either rip stuff off my own CDs or else use Limewire.
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ill tell you why "replay" is differant. when you go to limewire and download a song, reguardless of who recorded it, it is illegal. you are downloading copyrighted material.

ill tell you why that is bad. right at this moment, limewire is being sued, and under a federal investigation for doing exactly what napster used to do. the investigation is not limited to just limewire either. just like napster, they will also go after people who downloaded a large amount of material from them.

with replay, you can still go to limewire, but instead of downloading the songs, just add them to a play list. when you find everything you want, start replay, hit play all on limewire, turn the volume all the way down and walk away from your computer for a couple hours.

come back, and they will all be converted to mp3 files, ireguardless of what format they used to be in, taged with artist name and song title, and loaded into windows media player.

and its 100 percent legal.

plug in your player, open windows media player, and hit the "sync" button on the bottom right hand corner and windows will check your player and load anything from windows media player onto your devise that is not already there. you can also set up windows media player to automatically sync your devise when you plug it in. saves a step. windows media player also lets you create play lists and will load them too just like itunes.

no licensing agreements, no registering, no cost per download, nada. what ever you can play on your computer, from whatever source, replay will convert it to mp3, and load it in the media player.

it is the downloading that is illegal, not recording. the federal supreme court rules, way back when VCRs first hit the market and media companies tried to prevent them from becoming mainstream by making it illegal to copy tv shows, that a private individual may copy material from a public source for their own use.

go to napster and ***** their .99 per download. just create a play list, and play it. still have to pay their minimum fee, but it will be a differance of 5 bucks a month instead of 15 bucks a month or more, depending on how much you download. go to limewire for free and do the same thing.
#13 Jan 08 2007 at 9:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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they will also go after people who downloaded a large amount of material from them.
I'm not too worried then.

Edited, Jan 8th 2007 9:17am by Jophiel
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#14 Jan 08 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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iTunes has a known deficiency in that it won't work for ArTards

I have no problems with it, and the latest version is slick as a really lick thing for me.

So many people have tried to argue their alternative does things that iTunes "can't or won't" do, until I point out that it can and does.

I make sure to categorise every song/album I buy or 'acquire' (takes 5 seconds at most) so my iPod can let me find 'em quickly. I love the new 'download album artwork' feature and the juke box style browser.

Best of all is the Smart Playlist feature that means I can always find a compilation to suit whichever neurosis is occupying my brane at a given time.


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#15 Jan 08 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
i dont know. itunes works fine with me.. i dont use it often, so when i do theres no problem !
#16 Jan 08 2007 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
shadowrelm wrote:
they will also go after people who downloaded a large amount of material from them.
I'm not too worried then.

Edited, Jan 8th 2007 9:17am by Jophiel


pfft, they can sue me. I'll give them my pack of Mr. Noodles. I don't own much :).
#17 Jan 08 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
pfft, they can sue me. I'll give them my pack of Mr. Noodles. I don't own much :).
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its true, most people have nothing to worrie about. unless you have downloaded enough material to make coming after you worth while money wise, AND you have assets that can be taken, no worries.

but it wont be long before limewire is gone, or converted to yet another pay for play site.

and nobby, i have no problems with the capabilities of itunes. its a good program. but i am not going to limit myself to loading or unloading my player to only the one computer that one player is regestered too that has that one program on.

the wonder of windows media player is, you can load or unload your player from any windows computer. you can even store the replay program on your mp3 player and take it with you so you can use it where ever you want.

try that with itunes.

itunes is a comprehensive program designed to protect copyrighted material. it pretty much limits the copyrighted material to the uniit you had to register so you cant distribute the song to another computer or another player unless its also regestered and have the itunes program on the computer your using it with.

bleh. too much restriction.

i want an mp3 player that will play whatever i put on it without having to make sure the licences are up to date, and that the player is registered. a stand alone devise. thats why i bought a Zen, and why i use windows media player instead of the Zen softwear that came with it, and why i would never own an ipod.

no chains. coperate america can go suck their monthly subscriptions from someone else.

the ipod and itunes was a brilliant bussiness concept. not just the player itself, but launching a ton of accesories and add ons for the devise at launch instead of waiting for other private bussiness to pick up the slack. then tie it into a program that pretty much forces you to use a pay for play service they also provide, then tie in the devise itself to a windows like registration process that limits its function if you try to use it outside of their little pod world. pod world, im gona claim that slogan. hehehehe

pod people in a pod world. ill live on the fringes thank you. the mp3 device was the right product at the right time. the freedom to take music, video, data, whatever, where ever you wanted. ipod is the corperate attempt to regulate your little mp3 player and skim a monthly subscription from it.

get a Zen, or other mp3 player that doesnt have to be registered. and use programs that dont tie you down to a particular web site or particular program, or a particular computer.

freedom. dont let them box you in and bleed you dry. ipods are for the obediant masses who live to serve.......
#18 Jan 08 2007 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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shadowrelm wrote:
Of course, I either rip stuff off my own CDs or else use Limewire.
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ill tell you why "replay" is differant. when you go to limewire and download a song, reguardless of who recorded it, it is illegal. you are downloading copyrighted material.

ill tell you why that is bad. right at this moment, limewire is being sued, and under a federal investigation for doing exactly what napster used to do. the investigation is not limited to just limewire either. just like napster, they will also go after people who downloaded a large amount of material from them.

with replay, you can still go to limewire, but instead of downloading the songs, just add them to a play list. when you find everything you want, start replay, hit play all on limewire, turn the volume all the way down and walk away from your computer for a couple hours.

come back, and they will all be converted to mp3 files, ireguardless of what format they used to be in, taged with artist name and song title, and loaded into windows media player.

and its 100 percent legal.

plug in your player, open windows media player, and hit the "sync" button on the bottom right hand corner and windows will check your player and load anything from windows media player onto your devise that is not already there. you can also set up windows media player to automatically sync your devise when you plug it in. saves a step. windows media player also lets you create play lists and will load them too just like itunes.

no licensing agreements, no registering, no cost per download, nada. what ever you can play on your computer, from whatever source, replay will convert it to mp3, and load it in the media player.

it is the downloading that is illegal, not recording. the federal supreme court rules, way back when VCRs first hit the market and media companies tried to prevent them from becoming mainstream by making it illegal to copy tv shows, that a private individual may copy material from a public source for their own use.

go to napster and ***** their .99 per download. just create a play list, and play it. still have to pay their minimum fee, but it will be a differance of 5 bucks a month instead of 15 bucks a month or more, depending on how much you download. go to limewire for free and do the same thing.


Frostwire

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Edited, Jan 8th 2007 2:52pm by Molish
#19 Jan 08 2007 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll stick to my old fashioned CDs. Thank you very much.
#20 Jan 08 2007 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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I'll stick to my old fashioned CDs. Thank you very much.


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#21 Jan 08 2007 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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its true, most people have nothing to worrie about. unless you have downloaded enough material to make coming after you worth while money wise, AND you have assets that can be taken, no worries.


That's why Limewire came into existence in the first place. Let's see the RIAA make the same mistake of suing little kids and their grandmothers again. It's total BS that downloading anything which is freely available on the internet is "illegal". Uploading that "copyrighted" content might be illegal, but all it will take is a bad ruling or two on the "downloading" side to set back the RIAA again. Then all the servers can move to China or some Carribean Island, along with all the downloading IP addresses.

Let them bring on the assault. It's a money losing proposition. They'll lose far more in legal fees for every dollar they actually collect from suing an individual downloader, maybe on the order of $100:1 or even $1,000:1. The downloading market will refragment yet again to even more Napsters and Limewires.

It's a war and the RIAA is losing, bigtime. How many people stopped downloading because of the Napster lawsuits, 0.001%? Traditional music sales continue to tank.

Copyright law is an offensive privacy invading, private property tresspassing, witch hunt. Combine it with Patent protection killing Africans with AIDS, and it's just a matter of time until a Constitutional Amendment banning all copyright and patent protection comes about. At any rate that's a key barrier to be overcome in the 21st century (and is the primary reason were currently technologically at the 21st century level and not at the 25th century level). Make it a mission of yours too. If you don't want someone to copy you, you can STFU and remain silent; you have no right to violently coercively silence others.

So fight the good fight, and F"CK the RIAA and friends. Technology has swamped and overwhelmed them. At best they're dodo middlebirds about to be almost completely undercut out of the trade from artist to consumer. There's more content competition than ever before, and getting ahold of it is like finishing serfing teh internets. Not gonna happen. But if they wan't to hasten their stock price declines toward 0, they can follow the SCO Group legal drain business model.
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I'll stick to my old fashioned CDs. Thank you very much.


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Some dude at work last week had the audacity to submit a job regarding his iTunes on his corporate PC. I laughed at him, then told him that iTunes had absolutely no work purpose and therefore I wouldn't be wasting my time with it.

Edited, Jan 8th 2007 5:49pm by Kakar
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#23 Jan 08 2007 at 6:15 PM Rating: Good
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Kakar wrote:
MentalFrog wrote:
I'll stick to my old fashioned CDs. Thank you very much.


/nod

Some dude at work last week had the audacity to submit a job regarding his iTunes on his corporate PC. I laughed at him, then told him that iTunes had absolutely no work purpose and therefore I wouldn't be wasting my time with it.

Edited, Jan 8th 2007 5:49pm by Kakar



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i would have told him I'd take care of it, and Unistalled it and removed his local rights.
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#24 Jan 08 2007 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no problem working with iTunes, the problems start happening whenever I want to use music I downloaded with iTunes in anything that's not iTunes. Which irks me. It should not be nigh-impossible to put the goddamn pirate song into a flash animation. >.<
#25 Jan 09 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Some of the problems I've been having with iTunes:

Backups of music I've bought and downloaded (with iTunes), and burnt to a CD (with iTunes) are no longer readable. Mind you, since I burnt the CD, they've NEVER been touched. But when my hard drive with all my music on it died, I had to start reloading all my CD's onto my hard drive. Tons of music that I bought and backed up is no longer readable. Virtually all the music I've bought from iTunes is thus gone.

Songs from commercial CD's that I've imported using iTunes are not playable by iTunes. It marks the songs with a small exclamation point in the library view and says it cannot find the original files of the song. This despite re-importing the CD several times.

I always keep iTunes in manual mode as far as synching my iPods goes. Despite this the last time I connected my iPod to my computer, about 75% of the music on my iPod vanished. I double checked to make sure iTunes was not automatically synching my iPod. It wasn't; it was still in manual mode. Mind you, most of the songs that vanished from my iPod were still in my music library in iTunes, so even if it had been in auto-synch mode, it shouldn't have wiped 75% of the music from my iPod.

Those are the problems I've been having. Other than that it works just super!


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Edited, Jan 9th 2007 11:11am by Deathwysh
#26 Jan 09 2007 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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I have no problem working with iTunes, the problems start happening whenever I want to use music I downloaded with iTunes in anything that's not iTunes. Which irks me. It should not be nigh-impossible to put the goddamn pirate song into a flash animation. >.<


The one and pretty much *only* thing you need to do when using itunes is to go into the options and change the file format from ACC to MP3.

Do that *once*. All files imported to itunes will appear in mp3 format. These files are physical mp3 files on your hard drive. You can copy them anywhere. You can burn them to CDs as you wish. You can do anything with them. You can move them from computer to computer.

It's really that simple.
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