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#1 Jan 05 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Default
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Is there a difference as to what is going on here versus what is going on in Iraq.

I admit I am Ignorant as to what has happend and what has been going on in Somalia.

If you think there is a difference between Somalia and Iraq. What is it that makes it different. Is it Right what is being done? Is it legal...? Is it moral...?

Ok, discuss.
#2 Jan 05 2007 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
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#3 Jan 05 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I admit I am Ignorant


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#4 Jan 05 2007 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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I would say that the first difference is that Somalia has been a *********** and total anarchy for years, while Iraq had a stabel goverment in place that we just didn't care for.
#5 Jan 05 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Default
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what determines a stable government. After the muslims took control the fighting warlords retreated from Mogadishu and had been stable for the last 6 months. With the invasion by the Ethiopians the warring warlords can been seen in the city again.
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ccstwocents wrote:
what determines a stable government. After the muslims took control the fighting warlords retreated from Mogadishu and had been stable for the last 6 months. With the invasion by the Ethiopians the warring warlords can been seen in the city again.


The fact that the lawfully elected, internationally recognized government has been operating out of a neighboring country is usually a pretty good indicator of instability.
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#7 Jan 05 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
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So Iraq is a stable government?
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ccstwocents wrote:
If you think there is a difference between Somalia and Iraq. What is it that makes it different.
As Samira said, Somalia already had a legitimate and lawful government. Unlike Iraq, which had been under the continual reign of Saddam for 20-odd years, the Islamics who took the capital city of Mogadishu did so six months ago.

Rather than list every difference between the two, it'd be more telling if you listed the similarities if you think there's a parallel between the two conflicts.
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#9 Jan 05 2007 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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So Iraq was a stable government?
Fixed.

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#10 Jan 05 2007 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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ccstwocents wrote:
So Iraq is a stable government?


Was.
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#11 Jan 05 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Default
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what I read is the quaote from one of the islamic militants that said they are going to turn this into another Iraq. And it got me thinking and doing some reading. I understand that he means to begin attacking civilians and undermining the government in way that they can. But is there othere similarites and is there major differences. As I admit I am ignorant (for those who don't know the def. "uninformed; unaware") about somalia.
#12 Jan 05 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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Samira wrote:
The fact that the lawfully elected, internationally recognized government



Iraq doesn't fit that statement?
#13 Jan 05 2007 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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ccstwocents wrote:
Samira wrote:
The fact that the lawfully elected, internationally recognized government



Iraq doesn't fit that statement?


Did.

You just trolling here, or what? None of this is hard to find out.
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#14 Jan 05 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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You just trolling here, or what?


Step1: See original reply to OP
Step2: Follow suit
Step3: Point and laugh







Edited, Jan 5th 2007 2:37pm by Elderon
#15 Jan 05 2007 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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ccstwocents wrote:
As I admit I am ignorant (for those who don't know the def. "uninformed; unaware") about somalia.
Wikipedia
CIA World Factbook
Library of Congress: Country Studies
BBC Country Profile

Edited, Jan 5th 2007 11:49am by Jophiel
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#16 Jan 05 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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So the fact that this hapened about a week and a half ago doesn't seem to bother anyone?
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#17 Jan 06 2007 at 5:45 AM Rating: Default
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It is such a huge event that is not getting any Front page news... Why is that? You have to turn to page 6 of my local newspaper to read anything about it. Don't say its because our troops are not involved. RIGHT thats it. We are off the coast of somalia controlling the sea route.
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Why should a LOCAL newspaper cover INTERNATIONAL events?

LOCAL newspapers should cover LOCAL happenings, International events should not be front page. Even National papers should focus on domestic issues before international. If you want International News, go to an International news source? You are expecting too much from a Local paper.
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#19 Jan 06 2007 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Can you suggest a good international newspaper?

Moron.

#20 Jan 06 2007 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Notice how I said International News SOURCE, not paper.

There are plenty of sources of international news. If you are looking at your Local newspaper as a source of international news, then you are the moron.
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#21 Jan 06 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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If you are looking at your Local newspaper as a source of international news, then you are the moron.


Really? THe New York Times has coverage of Somalia and Iraq on the front page. And, weirdly, even though they're a local paper they have these weird sections on the inside titles "World News" and such. Many local papers do...

You were saying, beef head?
#22 Jan 06 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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Somalia has been on the local news and the local news paper up here in Canada as well.
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#23 Jan 06 2007 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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Somalia has been on the local news and the local news paper up here in Canada as well.


But! But! That's unpossible!

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Large City "local" newspapers are an exception rather than a rule.

Of the Thousands and thousands of local newspapers, few have any decent coverage of international happenings. If you are really interested in international news, local papers are hardly the first place you should look. (Unless of course, it's the local paper of the area of interest).

This weeks front page of the local paper was a picture of my cousin, and how he was the first child born in the county for the new year. I do believe the 9th page or so had a 4 paragaph single column about the saddam hanging, maybe. Yup, New York Times has some decent international news, so that must mean local newspapers are great sources.
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#25 Jan 06 2007 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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TirithRR wrote:
Large City "local" newspapers are an exception rather than a rule.

Of the Thousands and thousands of local newspapers, few have any decent coverage of international happenings. If you are really interested in international news, local papers are hardly the first place you should look. (Unless of course, it's the local paper of the area of interest).

This weeks front page of the local paper was a picture of my cousin, and how he was the first child born in the county for the new year. I do believe the 9th page or so had a 4 paragaph single column about the saddam hanging, maybe. Yup, New York Times has some decent international news, so that must mean local newspapers are great sources.


You started this whole thing just to work out a way to talk about your cousin, didn't you.

#26 Jan 06 2007 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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Zomg, backpedalling!
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