Why haven't I heard of this guy before?Follow

Paulsol. It's pretty disengenous to argue the issue of WMDs and only look at one set of early (and later found to be incorrect) information. There's a veritable ton of stuff we've found in Iraq. Which has recieved minimal media attention as this article shows.

Best quote?



At what point do we start to suspect that we're not getting the whole story here? Look. I know that I rail against "the media" a lot. But when do people start to see the pattern here? You believe "there were no WMDs in Iraq" because that's what you've seen and heard over and over on your TV set and on your radio. Can it even begin to seep into some people's brains that maybe the folks who decide what gets put on your TV and radio are lying to you?

At the very least, saying "no WMDs" were found is false. One is more then zero. None means zero. We have found multiple physical weapons in Iraq. If you want to argue that they weren't in a usable state, that's fine. But again, that wasn't a pre-requisite for war. If you want to argue that they were not constructed after 1991, that's also fine. Again however, the cease fire Iraq signed was signed in 1991. They didn't just agree not to build any more. They agreed to declare and destroy all the stuff they had. Finding munitions from the pre-1991 period is a direct violation of that agreement.

I'll say it again. The problem here is that there is a disconnect between the words written down in the treaties and resolutions, and the words that we heard on TV *about* those treaties and resolutions. You're interpretation of those things is based on slightly changed wordings that you heard on TV. But that is *not* what the treaties said. It's not what the resolutions said. And it's those things that ultimately matter.




Flea. I'm pretty sure that the contract that he signed did not say that he would serve his country as an officer of the military so long as he continued to believe that the justifications for war in Iraq were valid. That's the flaw with your logic here. Nothing in his contract hinged on that. He can join the military for any reason inside his own head that he wants. That does not change the actual contract he signed and the actual things that he is responsible for as a result of signing that contract.


The reasons someone joins the military are varied. None of them are "binding" legally. Your argument is equivalent to saying that if someone signed up for a boxing match after seeing Rocky, but then did not manage to go 20 rounds with the world champ after beating on some frozen cows, he should be able to sue someone or step out of some contract he signed...

The only saving grace for this guy IMO is that at least he made this decision *before* deploying. So at least his stupidity isn't putting other people's lives in danger on the battlefield.

Most group behavior would be considered character flaws in an individual.

I SAY KILL THE JEWISH BABY!!!

you know you want to

Lots of us. Maybe not with more total word count though.

Is it just me or did that not make sense?

If you mean do we track the highest accounts? then yeah check out https://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=danalog

If you mean do we know who the lowest 100 post count accounts are? No. There are literally thousands of 0 and 1 post accounts out there.

edit: or do you mean the ID number itself? We don't realy have a list like that. Can check manually though. Anonymous #5 would be the lowest in general use

Edited, Jan 4th 2007 6:26pm by Kaolian

The lowest ID is Illia I believe (number 1!). Dana also has a very low number, as does Alla of course. The current forum IDs were inherited from what was originally a user/submission database maintained by Illia. IIRC, it was for the EQ Quest/Beastiary. At some point the old forum IDs were transferred to that database. Then sometime later those IDs were used when the new forum system was implemented. I have a relatively low number mainly because at some point I wanted to make a submission to the Quest/Beastiary side of the site so I had to register with Illia's database. I don't even remember if I made the submission though, since I seem to recall that the browser I was using at the time would barf on the interface back then...

I believe I have the lowest active non-admin, "real person" ID. Not because I'm the oldest poster on this site though, but because most of the people who may have submitted stuff to Illia's old database system have likely moved off to do other things and never became regular posters. It's somewhat of an irrelevant number because of that. Some of us have really low numbers because we had them *before* the ID's were used for forum posting.

Feel free to gawk at my godly low number if you wish though... :)

http://www.allakhazam.com/db/poster.html?user=21 just posted something yesterday.
2 (someone I've never heard of, maybe an illia test account) and 95 have logged in at some point since the new year. That's all in the top 100 that's not an admin.

1 and 3 are Illia
5's anonymous
6 logged in at some point last year
8 is Lias, our one and only site volunteer
9 is Allakhazam

there is no 4 or 7

Saying anyone is 'purely evil' is naive argument used to promote jingoism. Any war is more complex than the soundbyte it's reduced to to make sure fresh-faced idealists sign up and ma and pa give 10% of the farm to bonds.

HOWEVER, if you fight because you believe the cause is just, you are a worthy and honorable person. You put yourself, your family, and your future on the line for your beliefs, and that is admirable even if I do not agree with the reasoning.

I disagree. I believe that one sentence is a clear and simple explanation of our current situation. Iraq is a mess we created and it is our responsibility to clean it up. We can't un-invade Iraq, its done and can not be undone.


And you give a good example of exactly my point of people keep going back to the mistakes made in the past and saying this should dictate how we deal with the present situation, the present situation is one of our making and is our responsibility. The fact that the reasons we went in originally are sketchy at best, does not change the present situation, and in fact it creates even more of a duty for us to leave Iraq as a safe and functioning state.

Edited, Jan 5th 2007 3:07pm by fhrugby