Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

racismsFollow

#1 Jan 02 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
How often are you exposed to racial slurs? or rasism in general?

I admit now at my job I hear it close to never unless SERIOUSLY tongue and cheek jokingly, like this black chick refering to me simply as "Irish" or "Whitey" or "White Boy" and the like. I work in a very diverse ethnic environment anyway.
BUT
wehn I worked in a pizza shop... it was totally rampant. Keep in mind it was all white people 95% of the time. Usually the "N-word" was thrown around quite often followed by some quick glances to the public carry-out area. These were never waht I'd call "hateful".. just people using a word to be funny and get a rise out of others... it becomes so commonplace.. that it really is just another word. but is it really?

A German used to work there too. Good guy, my age. We used to often mention his proficiency whilst working around huge ovens... and made comments regarding that if his race could burn so many jews that he should be able to get those pizzas in the oven faster....
along with the usual "German N-word" that we'd call him commonly.. goosestepper and all that...

Now we did have several Hispanic employees that we used to threaten to call the INS on if he didn't get those dishes done...



Family events.. This Christmas I heard a member of express a sentiment which intonated that blacks should not have the same rights as whites came up. Several family members then questioned his logic and a new subject was suddenly found.... which goes to show the slow transition...

Even my dear ole' mother... cannot help but express her concern about "all the black people" moving in.




I mean.. Is this everywhere?
I wonder if it is just because I live in the shadow of a fairly populated and ..richly cultured city with an equally richly cultured history in it's ideas about the varieties of humans amongsts us.
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#2 Jan 02 2007 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
I don't care for Indians, they always look dirty to me...

Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 7:46pm by Hellboy
#3 Jan 02 2007 at 4:51 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
Hellboy the Hand wrote:
I don't care for Indians, they always look dirty to me...



House smells funny too.
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#4 Jan 02 2007 at 4:53 PM Rating: Default
Can school children still have a favorite color?

Blue. I mean Green. aaaaaggghhhh!
#5 Jan 02 2007 at 4:56 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
MonxDoT wrote:
Can school children still have a favorite color?

Blue. I mean Green. aaaaaggghhhh!


you should roll up a sheet of acid and chew on it like a Twizzler.
do it. you'll thank me
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#6 Jan 02 2007 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
Black licorice candy is nasty. Red licorice candy is disgusting.
#7 Jan 02 2007 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,636 posts

The really really nice guy I work with will very occasionally spout out with a few racist comments about blacks and mexicans, not joking comments either.

The very very right-wing management at my company has lots to say about arabs/muslims as well.


Around some of my friends, I'll sometimes make over-the-top Jon Stewart-esque jokes. Like, watching The Preacher's Wife, for example, and saying "This movie is a bit ridiculous...black people aren't allowed in heaven." Or my Jewish friend bragging about killing Jesus.

Thinking about it now, when I was growing up, my parents never uttered even a jokingly-racist remark, and I'm glad I didn't get raised in a household that fostered even the tiniest racism.




Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 5:03pm by trickybeck
#8 Jan 02 2007 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
Ministry of Silly Cnuts
*****
19,524 posts
That's a typical whitey rant
____________________________
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
#9 Jan 02 2007 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
****
6,730 posts
I don't know what it is Kelvy, maybe it was all your posting over the long holiday weekend and no other posts to dilute your pompous blather, but I find the more I read your **** the more I want to rate you down, and I don't rate people down.


Funny, huh?
#10 Jan 02 2007 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
It's Just a Flesh Wound
******
22,702 posts
Personally, I believe that if you don't say the slurs in a way that's supposed to hurt somebody it's not racism. Although i'm sure there's plenty of people who disagree with me.

I'll say "*****" myself every once in a while joking but anyone who takes offense to that needs to chill out.

But.. most of the stuff you described is going too far imo, even if they are just joking stuff like that can easily offend anybody and not just 1 certain type of persons.
____________________________
Dear people I don't like: 凸(●´―`●)凸
#11 Jan 02 2007 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
***
3,339 posts
King Nobby wrote:
That's a typical whitey rant


Good lord which ONE man.

#12 Jan 02 2007 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
**
295 posts
Living in an Arab Muslim country, I see it, hear it, feel it, sense it around me all the time, targetting Arabs and Muslims.

Might sound absurd at first, but I live in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, where a huge British/American/European community resides. I'm usually quick to hammer a person flat, if anyone displays that attitude towards me, which does get me in a lot of trouble.

What I can't get over though, is the notion that some of these people, belonging to the groups mentioned above, can't hide their racism despite the fact that they live and benefit off an Arab Muslim country....

You'd think they'd retain that stripe of bias to when they're back home. The arrogance just kills me. A lot of people still behave with a variation of the Imperial/Colonial mindset that has long been thought extinct.

I can understand how it can be a "joking" remark in some cases, when it pertains to Blacks, Hispanics, Jews ...etc. But when it comes to Arabs and Muslims, it is correctly perceived as a discourse of power, where is Islam is viewed as some sort of a reactionary adversary that must be crushed and humiliated.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 4:39am by GregoryTheWatcher
#13 Jan 02 2007 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
Where my office is located is in one of the cheaper urban areas of Pittsburgh. As a result we get a lot of employees from the surrounding area. When I first started here I remember my mother used to worry because "There are so many colored's in the area."

Most of my family is racist without even meaning to be so. But they have also had absolutely zero experience with any ethnic group whatsoever. Because of that they have no experience of their own to fall back on and realize the things they say are ridiculous. I've never worked with a more racially diverse crew of people in my life. I wouldn't trade them for all the crackers in the world :P

Except Kelvyquayo. That piece of wonder bread is always welcome here.
#14 Jan 02 2007 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
Drama Nerdvana
******
20,674 posts
I can still laugh at this though right, since gays arent a race?
____________________________
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#15 Jan 02 2007 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
The closest thing to racism I see in 58.7% Hispanic San Antonio, TX is the occasional glare accompanied by a muttering of "guero". Most of the white folk here seem just fine with people of all colours. Surely I can't speak for everyone's experience here, but mine has been mostly positive.
#16 Jan 02 2007 at 6:52 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
I don't know what it is Kelvy, maybe it was all your posting over the long holiday weekend and no other posts to dilute your pompous blather, but I find the more I read your sh*t the more I want to rate you down, and I don't rate people down.


Funny, huh?


It's called jealousy mixed with envy mixed with latent homosexual attraction.


and why don't you GAG ON MY HUGE WHITE **** ?!





Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 9:48pm by Kelvyquayo
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#17 Jan 02 2007 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
Quote:
Living in an Arab Muslim country, I see it, hear it, feel it, sense it around me all the time, targetting Arabs and Muslims.


I assume you are Muslim/Arab?


Quote:
The arrogance just kills me. A lot of people still behave with a variation of the Imperial/Colonial mindset that has long been thought extinct.


That's crazy. That's be like being white, going to the inner city and start acting like an *******. Suicideville.

Is there a kind of "fear" amongst the native population there of Whites? like stemmed over from Colonial times? I don't see how they can act like that and not get beaten down by some locals.

Must be an interesting environment...

Is it segregated? like snobby white neighborhoods and then the local Arabs?
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#18 Jan 02 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
****
6,730 posts
Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
I don't know what it is Kelvy, maybe it was all your posting over the long holiday weekend and no other posts to dilute your pompous blather, but I find the more I read your sh*t the more I want to rate you down, and I don't rate people down.


Funny, huh?


It's called jealousy mixed with envy mixed with latent homosexual attraction.


and why don't you GAG ON MY HUGE WHITE **** ?!





Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 9:48pm by Kelvyquayo


SO ANGRY.

Speaking of latent: all this talk of rasicm and then your comment on latent homosexual attraction and then a reference to your WHITE ****? I don't know, Kelvy. Why do you have to point out it's white? Can't you just pretend to have a huge **** as opposed to a huge white one? Are you reassuring yourself (and if you are is it to reassure yourself you are white or to reassure yourself you have a ****) or do have some latent homophobic feelings yourself? You don't look at boys once in awhile and get that feeling do you? You know the one, the one heteros feel for teh wemenz? Are you sure? You appear to want me to give you happy endings. I tell you Kelvy I read frustrated, unhappy, unexplored homoerotic angst just sprayed like a pearl necklace all over your post. You may want to look into that, or just let go and explore those feelings. Varass never dared and look where he's at.
#19 Jan 02 2007 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
*****
16,160 posts
As long as Muzzies are 1) lopping off people's domes, 2) keep on blowing up "brother" Muzzies who apparently have differing opinions on the brand of carpet Muhhamed flew around on, 3) keep on blaming 'Mericans for publishing cell phone videos of Saddam getting hanged even though a Shiite Iraqi did it, 4) keep on ignoring that Israel is a fact of life, and 5) continue on insisting on chopping off perfectly nice clitties...

...there is no such thing as racism against A-rabs, Muzzies, or combinations of the two. Racism presupposes that one incorrectly assumes a particular race is superior or inferior to others. In the case of the Middle East it is empirical fact that they are lesser creatures. However, once they decide to pull their collective head out of their a$$ and join respectable civilization and the 21st century, that label will be retired.

What do you find so incredible about scamming oodles of cash off the oil industry, Greg? Think of it as ethnic and religious strip mining. If the resources are there and the environment in which it resides is the world's landfill, leaving it a few dollars lighter and looking down your nose at the location is simply natural. It's akin to New Orleans, only with an easier language to master.

Totem
#20 Jan 02 2007 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts

Quote:


all this talk of rasicm and then your comment on latent homosexual attraction and then a reference to your WHITE ****? I don't know, Kelvy. Why do you have to point out it's white? Can't you just pretend to have a huge **** as opposed to a huge white one? Are you reassuring yourself (and if you are is it to reassure yourself you are white or to reassure yourself you have a ****) or do have some latent homophobic feelings yourself?



at least you ....sensed all of the deeply embedded and craftily woven sarcastic juxtaposition in that brief statement...and maybe for a moment the glimmering shine in the spittle dangling from your chin as you attempted to find a retort may have been mistaken for a glimmer of reason and understanding...perhaps even as you unwittingly walked right passed the point while to cleverly noticing the windows you so miserably failed to see behind the glass..

unfortunatly sources(your comment) tell me that it still merits a huge
WHOOSHHH!
Smiley: smile
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#21 Jan 02 2007 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
<3 Totem~
#22 Jan 02 2007 at 11:22 PM Rating: Excellent
It's socially acceptable to be racist against Asians no matter what race you are.

Unless you're white. You are not allowed to crack ethnic jokes about anyone ever.

Racist jokes about people of African heritage are the most evil thing you could ever do. Unless your black.

The free pass to be racist about Arabic people is fading. Get in a few more until they blow up a bunch of innocent people again and renew the pass.

If your Hispanic you have a free pass to be racist about everyone!

All can all be learned by watching Comedy Central.

You should always get very mad when anyone makes a racial slur. That way you can show you are not harboring any misconceptions based on ethnicity. You are the superior person who judges everything in the universe with a clean slate.

Until you get carjacked.



#23 Jan 02 2007 at 11:53 PM Rating: Excellent
****
6,730 posts
Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:

at least you ....sensed all of the deeply embedded and craftily woven sarcastic juxtaposition in that brief statement...and maybe for a moment the glimmering shine in the spittle dangling from your chin as you attempted to find a retort may have been mistaken for a glimmer of reason and understanding...perhaps even as you unwittingly walked right passed the point while to cleverly noticing the windows you so miserably failed to see behind the glass..

unfortunatly sources(your comment) tell me that it still merits a huge
WHOOSHHH!
Smiley: smile




Good God.. Man! Who are you... William.... Shatner?



Quote:
"sarcastic juxtaposition?"

"glimmering shine?"

"cleverly noticing the windows you so miserably failed to see behind the glass?"


Any high school English teacher would mark you down for ****** writing like that. Put the thesaurus down son, it bit you in the *** with its great big dinosaur teeth.

Look, I poked you because I had hoped to get a few good flames out of you. You put on airs and attempt to talk the egotists intellectual talk. I wanted to see if you could walk the walk, or barring that at least freak out and just give me a good old fashioned flame. It's been so long since I've had a good old fashioned flame.
#24 Jan 03 2007 at 1:23 AM Rating: Good
***
1,661 posts
Gunner Sergeant Hartman wrote:
There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on
niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you
are all equally worthless..


***** races. There should be no different 'race'(s), because we're all human beings. Humans shouldn't evaluate individuals based on the color or heritage of another. Rather, instead they should be judged by the hardships and strife they put themselves through to obtain a better life.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 3:25am by Sorcath
#25 Jan 03 2007 at 2:23 AM Rating: Decent
**
295 posts
Quote:
As long as Muzzies are 1) lopping off people's domes, 2) keep on blowing up "brother" Muzzies who apparently have differing opinions on the brand of carpet Muhhamed flew around on, 3) keep on blaming 'Mericans for publishing cell phone videos of Saddam getting hanged even though a Shiite Iraqi did it, 4) keep on ignoring that Israel is a fact of life, and 5) continue on insisting on chopping off perfectly nice clitties...


Can I add 6-Never launder their clothes, 7-Booby trapping babies with explosives, 8-<Insert any vile action corresponding to concrete and desert backward mentality you imagine> ?

-Sigh-

Considering that you show no proof of any first-hand experience with Arabs/Muslims residing in their native countries, no proof of knowing the written or spoken language of any region in the Islamic world, no proof of being familiar with any major Arab/Muslim journal/channel/writer ..etc, it seems a bit strange that you'd have your "facts" and "opinions" etched in stone like this, doesn't it?

Try phrasing your "concerns" in an inquisitive manner, so I'd actually stomach the attempt to clarify. Please.
#26 Jan 03 2007 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
**
295 posts
Quote:
I assume you are Muslim/Arab?


Yes.

Quote:
That's crazy. That's be like being white, going to the inner city and start acting like an @#%^. Suicideville.


Based on the assumption that Arabs are in general either wild-eyed suicide bombers, or rich Shiekhs, it seems crazy of course. But since the assumption is false, it becomes an alarming reality, and with a logic.

Quote:
Is there a kind of "fear" amongst the native population there of Whites? like stemmed over from Colonial times? I don't see how they can act like that and not get beaten down by some locals.

Must be an interesting environment...

Is it segregated? like snobby white neighborhoods and then the local Arabs?


There is no fear of whites, specially considering that many Arabs -although not Nordic or Anglo-Saxon...etc- are Caucasian themselves.

You have to understand that Dubai is a booming city, where although Oil reserves are substantial, almost 90% of the city/Emirate's income comes from other industries and sectors, and not Oil. It is pretty impressive, and shatters most people's stereotypes as soon as they view the architecture, size, panache, sophistication, and luxuries provided.

Therein lays the problem. Being a 0% tax country (like most Arab countries, income tax is unheard of), enjoying a high per-capita GDP, a lot of Americans/Europeans come to work and live for years.

Now although these "expatriates" are on working visas, and not immigrants, it is very important for them to retain their identity, customs, mindset and ideas they came with. As a result, they cluster in packs, they avoid mingling with the locals as much as they can, they have their own publications, own shows, own leisure spots where I -as an Arab- would be frowned upon entering.

It's a quasi-state, and if you're familiar with the colonial and imperial mindset of the European Empires of the 19/18th century, you'd see how these people recreated, and readopted that mindset.

The government's opinion seems to be that as long as these people add a "modern" facade to the place, and attract more western capital and tourism, then they're free to do what they want. At the end of the day, they're spending their hard-earned money in the city, and the locals are reaping the benefits.

It's a very pragmatic approach, but it makes me cringe.

Let's not forget that these people remain to be citizens of powerful nations. If I -for example- bash an American's jaw for insulting me, and the police do anything less of incarcerating -only- me, and forcing me to apologize to that fellow, then he might be on CNN the next day, the US ambassador will make himself heard, and that's all bad publicity for a commerce centre like Dubai. Europeans/Americans need to feel perfectly at ease to practice whatever they're used to (including racism and bias, which ironically seem to be the core beliefs of some of them), so it would be viewed as a "western-friendly" place.

Like Totem put it
Quote:
leaving it a few dollars lighter and looking down your nose at the location is simply natural


Seems to be the prevailing view. Why? Because it's hard for anyone to admit, after decades of propaganda and stereotypes, that Arabs can actually build a modern city/country, so viewing it as the world's "landfill" eases the dilemma.

Edit:-

Let me add that this "community" is suffering a problem now. The more expatriates pour in, the harder it has become to keep this "cocoon" intact. That is especially true when it comes to children and teenagers. They go out with Arab/Muslim guys/girls, they see for themselves what the locals are all about, and provided the rebellious nature of that age group, they are skeptical of their parents' ractionary view.

I experienced this first-hand in 1992 when I was in an American school in Doha, Qatar, and this girl from Louisiana had a crush on me (mutual crush really), but was confronted with the school administration (hired by the US embassy), her parents, her friends, all scolding/boycotting her for going out with me once. I only found this out last year when I got in touch with her again via the internet.

I was also suspended from that school for a week, for making "remarks irrelevant to the curriculum", which basically consisted of me merely pointing out a few words in English that originated from Arabic. They wouldn't allow the American kids to develop any form of affinity to the Arab/Islamic culture, or even recognize any form of historical achievement, because it is at odds with the prevailing view in the US.

In 2007, the issue is loosening out, but is still bleak.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 2:08pm by GregoryTheWatcher
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 287 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (287)