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#27 Jan 03 2007 at 9:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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#29 Jan 04 2007 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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5 Aug 2003 After lottery millionaire Jack Whittaker passes out in a West Virginia strip bar, a burglar steals his briefcase containing $545,000 in negotiable bonds. The money is located in a trash dumpster the next morning
6 Jan 2004 After getting banned from Billy Sundays Bar and Grill in St Albans, West Virginia, lottery winner Jack Whittaker reportedly threatens to have the manager and his family killed
20 Jan 2004 Lottery winner Jack Whittaker reports that shortly after dawn, somebody broke into his SUV in Scott Depot, West Virginia and stole a bag containing $100,000 cash.
25 Jan 2004 Lottery winner Jack Whittaker is arrested for drunk driving in Nitro, West Virginia. Police allege the millionaire blew a .190 blood alcohol on the breathalyzer.



hell a 1/4 of that article was the sam stupid *******
#30 Jan 04 2007 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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5 Aug 2003 After lottery millionaire Jack Whittaker passes out in a West Virginia strip bar, a burglar steals his briefcase containing $545,000 in negotiable bonds. The money is located in a trash dumpster the next morning
6 Jan 2004 After getting banned from Billy Sundays Bar and Grill in St Albans, West Virginia, lottery winner Jack Whittaker reportedly threatens to have the manager and his family killed
20 Jan 2004 Lottery winner Jack Whittaker reports that shortly after dawn, somebody broke into his SUV in Scott Depot, West Virginia and stole a bag containing $100,000 cash.
25 Jan 2004 Lottery winner Jack Whittaker is arrested for drunk driving in Nitro, West Virginia. Police allege the millionaire blew a .190 blood alcohol on the breathalyzer.



hell a 1/4 of that article was the sam stupid *******



Heh it seemed like there's just plain a disproportionate number of people from Virginia, W Virginia and Florida in there anyway.

Is anyone really surprise they're passing out at strip joints, shoking their girlfriends, running down cops, drinking themselves to death etc? I mean, they do that whether they're lottery winners or not.

#31 Jan 04 2007 at 1:44 PM Rating: Default
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arrested for drunk driving in Nitro, West Virginia


Yeah, stuff like that goes on the resume out there.
#32 Jan 04 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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I remember a lot of that story about the guy from west virginia. The ohio media was always running something about that guys shananagins.

A striper and the Strip Bar Manager (or owner don't remember) was busted for drugging him and stealing the bonds. So the headline doesn't tell the whole story. but that still doesnt change he is a stupid ***** because he was in trouble again again and again.

**other things that happned to Jack. His Daughters best friend was found dead in their home. Then later on his own daughter went missing eventually found wraped in plastic and dead from an od.**

Edited, Jan 4th 2007 4:56pm by ccstwocents

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    http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=6401
not sure what this article says because work filters won't let me see it but the synopsis is about arresting the stripper

Edited, Jan 4th 2007 4:57pm by ccstwocents
#33 Jan 04 2007 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
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Well, first of all he didn't ignore his gifts all his life. He fell on hard times after having built up a respectable career. Maybe some of that was his fault, maybe not; but the fact remains that he was middle class, if not upper middle class, when the bottom fell out and he ended up living on the street with his kid.

That in itself is a lesson: no matter how secure you think you are, most of us are a couple of paychecks off the street.

Okay. Once you hit the point where it's hard to even find a place to shower and store a clean set of clothes, it gets exponentially harder to get back up to a comfortable, secure home. Not only that, but the expectation of everyone around you is that you're where you belong and where you'll stay. It doesn't take long before you accept that as reality, as well. Call it giving up or giving in or what you like. This is where our protagonist found himself.

Then one day he had a minor epiphany. He realized that he had a choice: to stay where he was, or to make a better life for himself and his kid. He chose to fight his way back out of poverty, and once there, he chose to dedicate his time sharing his story to help others realize that same deceptively simple truth: your fate, your reality, is at your command. You don't have to accept the expectations of others. You don't have to give in to the passive slide to the bottom.

Money doesn't buy happiness, obviously. Taking control of your life is a big step toward happiness, though; and money is one tool that makes it possible.

That help, at all?




I don't buy it. A genius like that can only aspire to become a failing salesman? I don't see how that's a "respectable" career, unless every stubborn man not willing to find a better income source is "respectable." OK, he doesn't even bother to check if his product has any demand before buying 30 units of it. Stupid mistake. Those are very common in life, I'm sure for geniuses all the same, but he had the chance to rectify them. Chris Gardener had the chance in this movie, and yet, he didn't.


He ignores every bit of advice his wife gives him and drags her to the end of her wits and his ultimate strive is to be locked in an office making phone calls all day. And then half of the movie just showcases him chasing around his bone density scanners.


You know what, this movie was inspiring, and it is an amazing tale of continuous misfortune and a rise to the top. And I'm sure all of the lessons it teachers are very valuable. Any movie about something as dramatic as this should be immensely powerful, and I feel that that source of empathy is all the movie plays off of. And to add to that, the plot layout and the constant gags, they were just plain annoying.


The story was great, but it was poorly executed. The scenes with him and his son were incredibly touching, I admit to crying in one, and then only to find him being awe struck by a guy with a nice Porsche, leading to his decision to become a stock broker. Sure, that’s an impressive accomplishment especially given his circumstances, even the well prepared rich men were not accepted as the new broker. I'm happy he got what he wanted, I was cheering for him the entire film even. But it’s a damn weak substitute for a title that promised happiness. For all we know he became an alcoholic who ignores his son while he works his life away. I didn't see any real accomplishment of happiness or an epiphany that changed his life for the better. Just one that brings in a bigger paycheck than all of his friends back in the Mission District.


This movie could have been much better if it focused more on the human aspect of being on the streets rather than on the drive for monetary gain and cheap gags throughout. Maybe if this movie was centered around a man who wasn't so stubborn and selfish in the beginning I would have enjoyed it. It seemed like he was more interested in selling the scanners than taking care of his son. I would have loved this movie if all those things weren't true. Unfortunately, they were.


Again, great story, poor execution.

Edited, Jan 4th 2007 3:34pm by sonicmonkeys
#34 Jan 04 2007 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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This movie could have been much better if it focused more on the human aspect of being on the streets rather than on the drive for monetary gain


Then it couldn't really have been called "The Pursuit of Happyness" then could it. "Stuck in ****" maybe...

Not saying that you must have scads of money to be happy, but focusing on the "human aspect of being on the streets" doesn't really strike me as being a tale of joy.



#35 Jan 04 2007 at 4:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unless it's "The Fisher King" maybe.

Or some stupid Richard Pryor movie about a homeless man running a multibillion dollar corporation using street smarts, dontcha know.
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#36 Jan 04 2007 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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Or some stupid Richard Pryor movie about a homeless man running a multibillion dollar corporation using street smarts, dontcha know.


Nah, 'cause that'd be about greed...

What I want to know is who's playing the Dan Akroyd character in The Pursuit of Happyness?

#37 Jan 04 2007 at 5:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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sonicmonkeys wrote:
The story was great, but it was poorly executed. The scenes with him and his son were incredibly touching, I admit to crying in one, and then only to find him being awe struck by a guy with a nice Porsche, leading to his decision to become a stock broker. Sure, that’s an impressive accomplishment especially given his circumstances, even the well prepared rich men were not accepted as the new broker. I'm happy he got what he wanted, I was cheering for him the entire film even. But it’s a damn weak substitute for a title that promised happiness. For all we know he became an alcoholic who ignores his son while he works his life away. I didn't see any real accomplishment of happiness or an epiphany that changed his life for the better. Just one that brings in a bigger paycheck than all of his friends back in the Mission District.


Well. It is based on a true story, so they kinda had to follow what actually happened, right? It just seems like most of your complaints have nothing to do with the actual "execution" of the story, but with the actual goals and approach of the main character himself. That's the part you can't change when making the story into a movie though...

I'd also like to point out that the title could well be a play on words. In the Declaration of Independance, the phrase "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" was originially going to say "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Property". It was changed to the more general "happiness" after much debate. There's a long rationale involved and it ties back further into some basic rights and ideas as described by folks like Locke.

My take on this is that he's not seeking "happiness" so much as "freedom". Freedom in the classical liberalist ideology comes from property (private ownership thereof in fact). Thus, by being able to become financially independant (aka: "wealthy"), he gains the freedom for himself and his son. All the things you bash him for follow this goal. He could very easily have just taken some random job and done ok for himself and his son. But that's not the point. He did not want to be a wage slave for his entire life. He wanted to be "free" in the classical sense.

That's what the film's about. It's a concept that has largely been lost in our nation where we think of rights as things that are owed us in some way instead of things that simply allow us to pursue our own goals.
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