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#52 Jan 02 2007 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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What are some great books you've read, and what kind of person would enjoy them? I seriously need to expand my reading list.


I just finished the Sherlock Holmes series, The most popular book aside from the bibal durring the early 20th century.
There is also the Inferno by Dante.
Hard Times by Charlse Richardens.
and some various others that i cant remember right now

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The DaVinci Code
Angels & Demons (imo this book is better than TDC)

Lord of the Flies
Beowulf
ooh, god how could i have forgotten this one, >=)
The Canterbury Tales
Along Came a Spider
To Kiss the Girls
Farenheight 451

(I also want to read the Alchemist, seems interesting)

Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 5:01am by Lordofdogs
#53 Jan 02 2007 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I see a lot of books being listed here that, while they might be "good" books, I'm not sure how they're actually "influential" books. Since "influential" is what you asked for, I will attempt to pare my list down to only those books which had a true life and/or perspective altering effect for me.

Most of the classics have been mentioned here already, so I'll leave those off the list, and just mention this one:

The Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley.

This is an amazing book, and one that I regularly revisit. Basically, it takes the premise that history is written by the victors and applies it to Arthurian legend, which was originally penned by Christian monks. It examines what the other side of the story might be, by telling it from the point of view of Arthur's sister, the "sorceress" Morgaine. What if she hadn't been a sorceress--what if she had merely been a priestess of the old pagan worship that was being condemned as the work of the devil and swept away as Christianity became the dominant religion in the British isles. What if her struggle with Arthur was not to undermine his throne and claim power for herself, but to preserve her way of life and worship?

The book addresses how some of the more commonly known folk-tales surrounding Arthur's reign were born--such as the story of the sword in the stone and the gifting of Excalibur to Arthur by the Lady of the Lake, and how he came to sleep with his own sister and father a son by her. It also takes the occasional moment to poke fun at the way common tales get inflated in folklore, such as when the Bishop Patricius brags about having stomped out the druidic worship in Ireland (the druids being known as the Serpents of Wisdom) and thus gives rise to the tale that he drove the snakes out of Ireland.

It's a wonderful novel that really turns on its head the "good vs. evil" paradigm that traditionally infuses Arthurian legend and instead makes it about the struggle of an old way of life against the rising tide of a new way.


Along those same lines, though with much less impact, I would also recommend Phantom by Susan Kay. This is the story of the Phantom of the Opera, as told in first-person perspective from people who had contact with Erik, the disfigured man who would become the Phantom. It begins with his mother from his birth and through his early childhood, then is told for a while by Erik himself, during his adolescence as a side-show freak displayed by the Gypsies. It moves on to his time in Persia from the point of view of the man referred to in the original Gaston Lereaux version as The Persian, and then again from Erik's point of view during the building of the Paris Opera House. The saga we all know involving Christine Daae is told counterpoint between Erik and Christine, and the conclusion is told by Raoul, the Viscount de Chagny.

Like The Mists of Avalon this book takes an old story with which we are all familiar and turns it on its ear, approaching it from a new perspective.

I think I'm detecting a trend in my preferred reading material...



Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 9:59am by Ambrya
#54 Jan 02 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent


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#55 Jan 02 2007 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
I really want to know what books are good to read if i'm interested in the Mystery/Suspense genre. I loved Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, James Paterson, and Dan Brown. could you give me a few authors or books that would be great reads and somewhat along these lines of storytelling?
#56 Jan 02 2007 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
Aside from several already mentioned (Art of War, Book of Five Rings, Bhagavad Gita, etc.), there is:
The Demon’s Sermon on the Martial Arts
Way of the Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman
Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman


Bhodi,
I had to special order Book of Five Rings from Barnes and Noble. Appearantly, it isn't a book most of the books stores keep on the shelves.
#57 Jan 02 2007 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lordofdogs wrote:
I really want to know what books are good to read if i'm interested in the Mystery/Suspense genre. I loved Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, James Paterson, and Dan Brown. could you give me a few authors or books that would be great reads and somewhat along these lines of storytelling?


James Lee Burke is one of my favorites - he evokes a sense of place better than just about any other modern writer I know. Also try Jeffrey Deaver.

Then there are the classic police procedurals, P.D. James and Ruth Rendell (sometimes writes as Barbara Vine).
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#58 Jan 02 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Lordofdogs wrote:
I really want to know what books are good to read if i'm interested in the Mystery/Suspense genre. I loved Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, James Paterson, and Dan Brown. could you give me a few authors or books that would be great reads and somewhat along these lines of storytelling?


Samira gave some really good suggestions, I'd like to add two more:

Nelson Demille - But only if you like a really wry sense of humor at the worst possible time. They're great suspense/action/thrillers some with a good bit of mystery thrown in. The nice thing about him is that while he's got some that follow a lead through several novels, many of the books are quite different.

Alexandre Dumas - For pacing and suspense and just general reading he is my favorite author. Many of his books were originally written as newspaper serial novels so there had to be suspense regularly to make the reader by the next installment. Just so, so fun to read.

But if you want flat out WTF, REALLY? endings then definitely Deaver - particularly his early stuff: A Maiden's Grave and Praying for Sleep, for instance.
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#60 Jan 02 2007 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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why am I not surprised to find most of the books you people claim to have been influential are works of fiction and that there are only 2 mentions of the Bible

umm.. maybe because this is an internet message board dedicated to fanstasy role playing games? maybe?

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h and whoever listed Hawkings his theory on matter and time are works of fiction and unprovable. When matter is sucked into black holes it disappears; that's his theory. Completely ignoring one of the main principles of physics; that matter never vanishes, or disappears, it's merely displaced.



While I agree with your unpravable thing...
Umm the bolded..

I think you mean Energy.. not matter.

And it's not said that it disappears. It is displaced to another dimension (so theory says).

Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 4:57pm by Kelvyquayo
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#61 Jan 02 2007 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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On a side note why am I not surprised to find most of the books you people claim to have been influential are works of fiction and that there are only 2 mentions of the Bible, and that of those Shadow, of all people, is the only one to mention it without a tone of disdain.

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The Bible has unquestionably had the most influence on my life and what I believe.

Varus


Which one? There are a lot of versions of the Bible, which is the real (literal) Word of God?


New Century Version
New Revised Standard Version
New King James Version
New International Version
New American Standard Version
Revised Standard Version
The Living Bible
...


I have no distain for the Bible. My only real issue is with the variations between the various versions, yet each group believes their's is the True version. Far too many Christians focus on the words rather than the Word.

#62 Jan 02 2007 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Completely ignoring one of the main principles of physics; that matter never vanishes, or disappears, it's merely displaced.
The only thing that this comment shows is that:

Science is willing to accept that it doesn't know everything and is open minded to new ideas while most religions feels that they singularly are correct and there is no possible reason they could be wrong.

Thus Science is about progression and Religion is about stagnation (well apart from kelvy's anyway)

#63 Jan 02 2007 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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#64 Jan 02 2007 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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#65 Jan 02 2007 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
Catch-22 (of course)...but the Gospels (MMLJ) and the Constitution of the United States probably effect my actions at a deeper level.

However, when dealing with burocracy...Catch-22 is always a good source of inspiration.
#66 Jan 02 2007 at 11:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have no distain for the Bible. My only real issue is with the variations between the various versions, yet each group believes their's is the True version.
Who? I don't know of any mainstream Christian sect who has declared one version of the Bible to be absolute. Even among Catholics, the King James has been surplanted by the New American Bible which continues to undergo revisions. I suppose that Catholics continue to use the Apocryphal books but there's no absolute translation of those, either.

Anywho, I guess I should add in an influential book. Aside from some of those already mentioned here, I'll say Art Spiegelman's Maus (I & II).
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#67 Jan 03 2007 at 3:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Most of the books I consider immensely influential have already been mentioned.

However, there's a book titled "Awlad Haretna" which is loosely translated as "Children of our neighborhood" by the late Egyptian writer Najeeb Mahfouz, he won the Nobel prize for that novel.

I had heard about it a long time back, how faith-shattering (yes religious faith) it is, but only read it last year. Despite my former skepticism, it is astonishingly powerful, and will have you in deep thought for quite a while after that.

I'm fairly certain it has been translated to English.
#68 Jan 03 2007 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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My most influential books seem to all have to do with religion, but in a rather irreverent way.

Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal - Christopher Moore One of the funniest books I have ever read, and forces you to not take your religion/yourself to seriously.

The Tao of Pooh - Benjamin Hoff Read this one in college, and it fired an interest in philosophy that I never had before. Then went and read Tao Te Ching for a deeper understanding of the basics that Pooh taught me.

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#69 Jan 03 2007 at 7:08 AM Rating: Decent
tao of pooh was a great read.
#70 Jan 03 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
Mr. Mugs - A Jet-Pet


That was a vulnerable time in my life, so it was definately influential.
#71 Jan 03 2007 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
thanks, i'll be looking them up in the Barns and Nobels store soon
#72 Jan 03 2007 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
achileez wrote:
Ambrya,

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The Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley.


Bar none one of the most horrible books i've ever laid eyes upon. I couldn't make it past 100 pages before I said f this and threw it in the fire. This certainly explains why you're so screwed up. Imagine an ultra-feminist King Arthur story and that's what you have.

On a side note why am I not surprised to find most of the books you people claim to have been influential are works of fiction and that there are only 2 mentions of the Bible, and that of those Shadow, of all people, is the only one to mention it without a tone of disdain.

No wonder you people believe homosexuality to be normal.

Oh and whoever listed Hawkings his theory on matter and time are works of fiction and unprovable. When matter is sucked into black holes it disappears; that's his theory. Completely ignoring one of the main principles of physics; that matter never vanishes, or disappears, it's merely displaced. Ironically I watched a show on this very subject late last night on the science channel.

The Bible has unquestionably had the most influence on my life and what I believe.

Varus


lets not make this into a religious/political flaming bout. What most people (and me) have done are listed some great books they have read; not the "TOP 10 MOST INFLUENTIAL BOOKS OF ALL TIME" because you would just be listing the top 5 religious books and then some early ones from ancient societies.

i dont want to address that whole "no wonder you people belive homosexuality is normal" but who the hell are you to say anything like that! 1) nobody posted anything about this subject 2) your pulling this out of your @$$ because you know nobody here and 3) once you understand that this is the INTERNET you will think "hmmm, maybe not everyone here is a crazy christian fanatic like me. I bet there are some Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, mabye Buddhists here."

rate me down if you must (which i'm sure you will; to bad i dont care if i'm a default or decent) but this must be said
#73 Jan 03 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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h and whoever listed Hawkings his theory on matter and time are works of fiction and unprovable. When matter is sucked into black holes it disappears; that's his theory. Completely ignoring one of the main principles of physics; that matter never vanishes, or disappears, it's merely displaced.



While I agree with your unpravable thing...
Umm the bolded..

I think you mean Energy.. not matter.

And it's not said that it disappears. It is displaced to another dimension (so theory says).

Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 4:57pm by Kelvyquayo


hate to burst your bubble but there are 2 theories, one that deals with energy and one that deals with matter.
#74 Jan 03 2007 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Ambrya,

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The Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley.

Oh and whoever listed Hawkings his theory on matter and time are works of fiction and unprovable. When matter is sucked into black holes it disappears; that's his theory. Completely ignoring one of the main principles of physics; that matter never vanishes, or disappears, it's merely displaced. Ironically I watched a show on this very subject late last night on the science channel.

The Bible has unquestionably had the most influence on my life and what I believe.

Varus


i just want to say this because i know it will make you mad. your logic goes "well its not provin so its fiction" well then isnt the Bible fiction also? the creation of earth has not be proven without a doubt, and the forseen end of the world cant be proven because its not happend.

well i hope this makes you as mad as (your post has shown) you are ignorant.

Edit: the creation of earth BY GOD has not been proven without a doubt. (compliments of Abadd)

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 10:11pm by Lordofdogs
#75 Jan 03 2007 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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your logic goes "well its not provin so its fiction"


Well, that about says it all right there.
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#76 Jan 03 2007 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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hate to burst your bubble but there are 2 theories, one that deals with energy and one that deals with matter.



well MATTER IS ENERGY so EAT MESmiley: tongue
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