While I commend your sister for working hard to improve her lot, I have to ask.... did she think it was a GOOD idea to start having kids at 16?
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grieverao wrote:
On a side note.
It's nice to see decent people get auto-defaulted in The Asylum threads.
/hats off to you lame, fucking losers with over-inflated e-peens thinking your better than the rest of us.
Guess trying to have a decent chat without risk of 13 year old tossers rating you down is poor in here too. Like I've said before Alla fails.
It's not the caring of a lolkarma it's the fact that some overweight snotty kid thinks they better than you because of a button on an internet forum.
To those normal people who really do just wanna chat and talk about whatever without inflating their e-egos; hi, my names Griev nice to meet ya.
It's nice to see decent people get auto-defaulted in The Asylum threads.
/hats off to you lame, fucking losers with over-inflated e-peens thinking your better than the rest of us.
Guess trying to have a decent chat without risk of 13 year old tossers rating you down is poor in here too. Like I've said before Alla fails.
It's not the caring of a lolkarma it's the fact that some overweight snotty kid thinks they better than you because of a button on an internet forum.
To those normal people who really do just wanna chat and talk about whatever without inflating their e-egos; hi, my names Griev nice to meet ya.
If all you really want to do is chat, how does getting rated default hurt you?
I've never seen your name before but I'll be rating you down now, only because it appears you still need to be desensitized to it.
Yodabunny wrote:
I was a stay at home dad with 2 kids for 6 mnths at one time (laid off). Not a permanent situation, but qualifies me to comment on it. It's not hard (4 kids might be different, but I wouldn't know about that).
Being a stay at home mom/dad is WAY easier than working, then going home and having to do things when you get there after working all day. People overestimate how much work children are, most of the stuff you have to do for them you already have to do for yourself, and once you have them into a routine it's a breeze.
Most stay at home moms stopped working when they gave birth and didn't go back, they have a routine down and don't actually know what it's like to go to work and come home to more work (IE chores after work, no time to play with your family). They have things they have to do during the day yes, but they have liberty to do those things at a slower pace and spend every day with their family.
My ex thought she had it bad being a stay at home mom, so she went to work...and quit 2 weeks later, she didn't complain once after she realized the difference.
The real heroes are women like my 22 year old sister. Single with 2 kids(5 and 6), dads aren't around, no child support, going to college during the day, working nights, still makes time for the children, one child has a defiance disorder, one has ADHD and Asthma, both allergic to milk, I'm her only family. THAT is hard.
People look at staying home with your children like it's a job. Staying home with your children is the greatest priveledge there is.
Being a stay at home mom/dad is WAY easier than working, then going home and having to do things when you get there after working all day. People overestimate how much work children are, most of the stuff you have to do for them you already have to do for yourself, and once you have them into a routine it's a breeze.
Most stay at home moms stopped working when they gave birth and didn't go back, they have a routine down and don't actually know what it's like to go to work and come home to more work (IE chores after work, no time to play with your family). They have things they have to do during the day yes, but they have liberty to do those things at a slower pace and spend every day with their family.
My ex thought she had it bad being a stay at home mom, so she went to work...and quit 2 weeks later, she didn't complain once after she realized the difference.
The real heroes are women like my 22 year old sister. Single with 2 kids(5 and 6), dads aren't around, no child support, going to college during the day, working nights, still makes time for the children, one child has a defiance disorder, one has ADHD and Asthma, both allergic to milk, I'm her only family. THAT is hard.
People look at staying home with your children like it's a job. Staying home with your children is the greatest priveledge there is.
And out of curiosity, how old were your kids when you didn't have a job?
You would be right if you're commenting on school age kids who are gone from the house for 7 hours out of the day. At that point one may really need to think about getting a mothers hours job in order to have a life. But if you're talking infants and toddlers, then I call bull.
Husband had the same idea for awhile, and I've found the best response to this "you have it easy" comment is to let him take over my role for a day or two. Its not just rearing the kids, but also keeping the house and its errands up in order to have a "home" for the other spouse to come home to. Add a crying infant up at any time of the night with you being the one to get up each time to care for them and getting only a broken 3 hours of sleep until you have to deal with it all over again.
School age kids I would assume are much easier to deal with. They are self sufficient in almost all ways. They can get up, get dressed, get their own breakfast, and you shoo them out the door to school with their lunchbags and back packs. Rearing younger children is a whole nother ball game.
Edited, Dec 29th 2006 4:52pm by DSD
DSD wrote:
And out of curiosity, how old were your kids when you didn't have a job?
You would be right if you're commenting on school age kids who are gone from the house for 7 hours out of the day. At that point one may really need to think about getting a mothers hours job in order to have a life. But if you're talking infants and toddlers, then I call bull.
Husband had the same idea for awhile, and I've found the best response to this "you have it easy" comment is to let him take over my role for a day or two. Its not just rearing the kids, but also keeping the house and its errands up in order to have a "home" for the other spouse to come home to. Add a crying infant up at any time of the night with you being the one to get up each time to care for them and getting only a broken 3 hours of sleep until you have to deal with it all over again.
School age kids I would assume are much easier to deal with. They are self sufficient in almost all ways. They can get up, get dressed, get their own breakfast, and you shoo them out the door to school with their lunchbags and back packs. Rearing younger children is a whole nother ball game.
Edited, Dec 29th 2006 4:52pm by DSD
The kids were 2.5 and 6 mths at the time (in the beginning). Doing it for a day or 2 is much more difficult, once you get a routine down it's a different story, I'd have a much more difficult time of it if I were to just out of the blue stay home for a week while the wife worked, but after a couple of weeks it wouldn't be as difficult.
I am talking about a "home" as well, not just taking care of the kids, but keeping the place clean, doing the groceries etc.
Curious again, what was your routine during the day with the kids and home? Obviously you would have to feed and clothe them, do diapers, etc. But what else? Every home is different, but unless you're just an insanely lucky guy with angelic kids, the vast majority of people who are at home parents, will disagree with you in that its VASTLY easier than working. Hell, when I worked it was my downtime, and I wasnt a slacker at work either.
When you're an at home parent full time, until your SO comes home there is little if any adult conversation. You also have no break like you would get working out of the home. It is a 24/7 non paid job. Do we love it? Hell yeah! Is it easy? hell no! There is no commute to unwind and listen to the radio as you head home.
Add in childrens unpredictable behavior at times, or when they get sick, nightmares and monsters that you need to chase away at any time of the night, playtime with other kids for social interaction or lessons, food shopping, cooking, laundry, cleaning... unlike out of home jobs, it doesnt end.
I'm not complaining as I absolutely adore being able to spend those few precious years as an integral part of my childrens lives and know that time is very short. I wouldnt trade it for the world. However, I find it insulting that you would actually think that is an easy luxury we bask in. Many parents make the decision to have one stay home in order to save money over the cost of daycare, a choice my husband and I made as in Mass it is insane how much you pay for it. I assure you that with having a 4 year old with a healthy schedule of fun and learning both at home and at the local YMCA, and an infant, that it is far from easy. Doable, but not easy. It's the most rewarding job one can have, but it's still a job with no breaks or vacation time allotted.
Edited, Dec 29th 2006 6:03pm by DSD
When you're an at home parent full time, until your SO comes home there is little if any adult conversation. You also have no break like you would get working out of the home. It is a 24/7 non paid job. Do we love it? Hell yeah! Is it easy? hell no! There is no commute to unwind and listen to the radio as you head home.
Add in childrens unpredictable behavior at times, or when they get sick, nightmares and monsters that you need to chase away at any time of the night, playtime with other kids for social interaction or lessons, food shopping, cooking, laundry, cleaning... unlike out of home jobs, it doesnt end.
I'm not complaining as I absolutely adore being able to spend those few precious years as an integral part of my childrens lives and know that time is very short. I wouldnt trade it for the world. However, I find it insulting that you would actually think that is an easy luxury we bask in. Many parents make the decision to have one stay home in order to save money over the cost of daycare, a choice my husband and I made as in Mass it is insane how much you pay for it. I assure you that with having a 4 year old with a healthy schedule of fun and learning both at home and at the local YMCA, and an infant, that it is far from easy. Doable, but not easy. It's the most rewarding job one can have, but it's still a job with no breaks or vacation time allotted.
Edited, Dec 29th 2006 6:03pm by DSD
DSD wrote:
lot's of good stuff
I do have very well behaved kids so that might account for a good part of it, but personally I found staying at home with the kids much easier than working. Mind you that was with my ex who never did anything so after work I had to come home and do ALL (not just half like it should be) of the house stuff anyway. Maybe that's the difference.
Anyways, there was no insult intended I just personally felt it was easier as a stay at home dad than as a working dad.
Regarding the earlier comment about my sister getting pregnant at 16, it was actually 15, she just turned 22, and it was a young and stupid thing to do. I did it as well, I was 19 when my son was born.
Just do what my mom did. Have enough kids that they span a 15 year age spread between oldest and youngest. Helpers and playmates galore! That keeps the kids out of your hair.
Of course I do remember her sending us outside a lot. Oh, and getting up at 5:30 every morning so she could have a little private quiet time. So she was a little frustrated with her lot in life and became a bitter, frustrated woman, she was a good mom, darn it!
Of course I do remember her sending us outside a lot. Oh, and getting up at 5:30 every morning so she could have a little private quiet time. So she was a little frustrated with her lot in life and became a bitter, frustrated woman, she was a good mom, darn it!
DSDs post made me think - why do some women cry when their kids go off to school?? Do these women not realize they will finally have some peace and quiet?!!?
I bet these are the women who *enjoy* kids. Freaks.
I bet these are the women who *enjoy* kids. Freaks.
Nadenu wrote:
DSDs post made me think - why do some women cry when their kids go off to school?? Do these women not realize they will finally have some peace and quiet?!!?
I bet these are the women who *enjoy* kids. Freaks.
I bet these are the women who *enjoy* kids. Freaks.
That still has me confused too. While I love being home with the kids, when my oldest started going to preschool a few days a week it was such a nice break that I didnt have issues letting him go. In fact, it was a nice change for the both of us and we both had our batteries recharged when I picked him up each day.
Wow, that was arousing in a Billy Ocean kinda way.
Caffeine Queen now we're sharing the same dream
And our hearts they beat as one
No more love on the run
Caffeine Queen now we're sharing the same dream
And our hearts they beat as one
No more love on the run
MentalFrog wrote:
grieverao wrote:
All my posts start "decent".
What I mean by auto default (probably nothing to do with you personally Nexa) but I mean by peopl basically saying "nah I'll rate em down, they ain't welcome".
Thanks. Just glad to know we all humans living on the same planet socialising in the same games.
What I mean by auto default (probably nothing to do with you personally Nexa) but I mean by peopl basically saying "nah I'll rate em down, they ain't welcome".
Thanks. Just glad to know we all humans living on the same planet socialising in the same games.
It's because...nah I'll just rate you down, you ain't welcome.
QFT
I had Kao write me a script that I run that handles of the tedium for me. I don't get that "feel-good" button pressing, but I also save on the carpal tunnel. You twats sure do post a lot.
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