let's talk about ******Follow

Thanks, mat, for bringing the thread to a grinding halt with all of your reasonableness.

Sheesh.

Don't mix up the fact that religion is usually a vehicle for control by tyrants. Dictators use religion as an excuse for war and a demand for allegiance, when if you read the Bible for your self, it is more along the lines of what some atheists might say it is. A collection of stories that are intended to influence an individual to live as a better person. Sure there's some fire and brimstone in there, and a dude with a mexican name in there claiming to be the Son of God, but the fact that in every Bible I have read, it says "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The Bible is like a history book that actually attempts to learn from the mistakes of man, by saying we used to cut peoples heads off and things like that, but now we have learned forgiveness of sin and sayings like "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." If you meet a judgemental Christian who can't forgive or thinks they are God. Use their own text against them.

Edited, Dec 29th 2006 5:14pm by laviont

Prayer is by no means banned. The c-nuts who throw around the phrase "banning prayer in schools" have no idea what they're talking about.

The US Department of Education wrote:

Accordingly, the First Amendment [...] protects religious activity that is initiated by private individuals, [...] As the Court has explained in several cases, "there is a crucial difference between government speech endorsing religion, which the Establishment Clause forbids, and private speech endorsing religion, which the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses protect."

Edit: I suppose I should link that.



If the government stepped in and said "You may not publicly mention Christmas," that would be persecution. "Happy Holidays" does recognize Christmas. It also recognizes Hannukah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, etc. So, if you don't know if the person in front of you is Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, what makes it so necessary to say "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays"?

Edited, Dec 29th 2006 6:23pm by Matjlav

WAR ON CHRISTMAS UPDATE:

Today, Christmas killed six soldiers using roadside IED's. President Bush maintains the war is going well, even though we're not losing, although not winning either.

Christmas said Bush was a putz.

Because there is no factual relation, as you've already been told. As you well know, the virus doesn't give a rat's *** who the person is boinking (or sharing needles with, or who is receiving the blood transfusion).

with this statement I would say this explains why lesbianism (especially if they are hot) is accepted and gays are not.

It does make sense why woman would be attracted to other woman.

kk all jokes aside.

I havnt been able to get through reading all of this ITS A LONG THREAD so I don't know if its been said already or not.

But you say that Aids was created by god to strike down gays... well from things that I have read over the years is that a disease was created If I remember right created by scientists during the Nixon administration that was given out in hepititus shots (again from memory) and these shots was given to Blacks and gays. although in all of the articles no name was ever given to the disease. It just seems odd that the most people who have Aids are blacks and gays. And the disease really came into exsistance around that time frame. just seems to me 1+1+X=3 (yeah I know i'm reaching) but it does seem to add up.

Well that's one way to liven up a party.




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Really? I've never noticed any. Guess where you live is just less Christian-like than where I do.

But still, Christianity is still definitely less persecuted than homosexuality. When people start using "Christian" as a term of anger and contempt, let me know.

this is why reading tolstoy is a hundred times better than church, christian anarchy accepts everyone because it is a personal relationship with God, not just following a bunch of hypocrites in the church.

Let's not ignore the fact that sodomy is in no way required for the spread of AIDS, whether between men and women, or men and men.

If infected fluid--vaginal or seminal--comes into contact with a mucous membrane, transmission may occur. Doesn't matter if the intercourse is oral, ****, or vaginal. In fact, of all these types of intercourse, vaginal intercourse is the most susceptible to transmission, at least from male to female.

The ******, after all, is nothing more than a sheath of mucous membrane--relatively speaking, that's quite a large surface area of extremely permeable tissue. This is why the rate of any STD transmission is much higher from males to females than from females to males--anatomically, the portion of the woman being exposed to male fluids is much more prone to transmission than then portion of the male anatomy being exposed to female fluids. After all, the ***** is comprised mostly of skin, which provides both physical and chemical barriers to infection. A man's main danger of infection comes from the small amount of vaginal fluid which might make its way into the urethra, and small abrasions on the *****.

The same can be said of the mouth, but in that case, the environment is much more hostile to due to salivary and gastric enzymes and acids.

And again, Virus ignores the fact that heterosexual transmission of HIV has LONG SINCE outpaced homosexual transmission. It's passed male <--> female much, MUCH more often than male <--> male. The reason activism is much higher among gays is because of the early misconception that it was a gay-only disease, so they got started on the activism front much earlier than hets, and gained a lot of momentum before the het population jumped on the bandwagon.

I remember being yelled at when I said that I didn't feel like praying at my high school graduation by the teacher and half the senior class.

At a public school...

in 1989!

Meanwhile a teacher did a poll at my school and 45% of the students thought that they should have the right to kill homosexuals on sight.

All true. And I grew up in a Blue State. Goddamnit, I'm a little bitter on the whole "Christians are persecuted in America, Bill O'Reilly" bullsh*t.