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#1 Dec 21 2006 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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An offhand question: What, if anything do you tip as a standard? Do you tip if you had bad service, or just tip poorly? Do you tip folks b/c it's Christmas?

I try to give about 15% if the service is all right, 20% if it's good. I hate forced tipping that's built into the service, as I think I should reserve the right to not tip if you sucked ***, and I don't tip folks b/c it's Christmas.
#2 Dec 21 2006 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
Depending on the region, tipping ettiquite will be followed except in cases where my meal is passed through a window. Those places generally don't get a tip.
#3 Dec 21 2006 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
Atomicflea wrote:
An offhand question: What, if anything do you tip as a standard? Do you tip if you had bad service, or just tip poorly? Do you tip folks b/c it's Christmas?

I try to give about 15% if the service is all right, 20% if it's good. I hate forced tipping that's built into the service, as I think I should reserve the right to not tip if you sucked ***, and I don't tip folks b/c it's Christmas.


I tip 20%, 15% if the service is pretty poor. I've never had service so bad I didn't want to leave a tip.

I don't do anything special for the holidays, though my builder super is getting a big ol' bottle of X-X-Xmas booze for helping me carry my crap up the stairs all year long.
#4 Dec 21 2006 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Esp looking at wedding stuff, there are tips built into the charges for the limo and the waitstaff at the reception. I suppose I can see the point with the waitstaff (although not the bartender), but the limo driver? C'mon. If you're late, I want to reserve the right to dock that 20% I was forced to include.
#5 Dec 21 2006 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
An offhand question: What, if anything do you tip as a standard?
Between 15%-20%, but I will always try to round up the tip so my total is a "even number".

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Do you tip if you had bad service, or just tip poorly?
Again, I will round up, but it will never be more than $0.50. I don't want them to think that I forgot to tip, do I?

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Do you tip folks b/c it's Christmas?
Nope.
#6 Dec 21 2006 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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If you're late, I want to reserve the right to dock that 20% I was forced to include.
You do have the option, you just have to take it up as a formal complaint with the Limo company. I think it's great fun to do things like that. I'd expect others in this forum should feel the same.
#7 Dec 21 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, I plan on writing it into any contract I have to sign.
#8 Dec 21 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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From a restaurant standard, I start at 15%. I remember when the standard was 10% and I'm not buying into this 20% baseline crap. I'm pretty sure the service hasn't gotten 33% better since the 1990's and it certainly hasn't gotten twice as good since the 80's.

I will go up to 20%+ if the service deserves it and I'll go down to 10% or less if the service is downright crappy. I try to base this upon actual waitstaff and not things like my food sucking. Of course, if I tell the server that my food sucks and they sigh and roll their eyes, that's another matter.

Edited, Dec 21st 2006 11:52am by Jophiel
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#9 Dec 21 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
I'm bored too and I have only been at work 40 min. Smiley: grin

The sales tax here is 8.25% so I usually just double the tax when I tip. I do adjust for Shitty service and exceptional service though. I also don't tip on take out, except for a few places where go a lot and thats mainly because they give me a litle extra like free eggrolls or a free drink while I'm waiting for my order.

Ever had a waiter/waitress complain to you about the tip?

My family went to a chinese restaurant once in Arizona. The waitress screwed up three of the orders for the seven people and complete omitted the orders for two people. She never checked on us after brining the orders out and we had to complain to the manager to straighten out the orders. The waitress then had the nerve to chase us when we left the resaurant screaming at my did that he didnt leave her a tip. Stupid Cnut.
#10 Dec 21 2006 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
What, if anything do you tip as a standard?

Depends on the size of the bill. If it's a 20 or 30 dollar bill, simple fair, around 15 percent. If the bill is higher, say 100 bucks or more, between 20-30%. It's situational.

Do you tip if you had bad service, or just tip poorly?

I'll speak to the wait-staff first, then the manager. If I don't feel good about the sitiuation, they get nothing.

Do you tip folks b/c it's Christmas?

Holidays are a poor excuse for anyone to be kind or polite, I won't tip because it's Christmas, I perform a "service" to customers during the holidays, same as everyone else with a job. They can suck it.
#11 Dec 21 2006 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
I tend to tip 20%+. Bad service still gets a tip but I am less inclined to round up like I do with good service.

A for instance, last week we hit up a new bar in the area. The bartenders are really nice and they served some great craft brews, they were even willing to lend an ear for some beer talk . The check with food came to $36 I believe. I like round numbers and due to the good service and my generosity they got a $14 tip. A nice rule of thumb when ordering from a bartender is a dollar per drink stopping at $5 if most are just draft or opened bottles.

#12 Dec 21 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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Soracloud the Charming wrote:
The check with food came to $36 I believe. I like round numbers and due to the good service and my generosity they got a $14 tip.
Yikes, I would have tipped $10 at the most.
#13 Dec 21 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
From a restaurant standard, I start at 15%. I remember when the standard was 10% and I'm not buying into this 20% baseline crap.
I had a friend in college who would start his meal planning on tipping 20%. Any time his glass was fully empty before being offered a refill, he would remove 1%. If a waiter did not check on his meal within X amount of time, another 1%.

He was a rich South Carolinian and was accustomed to restaurant's that would dedicate a waiter to each table. It was rather fun to watch him go to a place like TGI Friday's during a rush.
#14 Dec 21 2006 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
Soracloud the Charming wrote:
I tend to tip 20%+. Bad service still gets a tip but I am less inclined to round up like I do with good service.

A for instance, last week we hit up a new bar in the area. The bartenders are really nice and they served some great craft brews, they were even willing to lend an ear for some beer talk . The check with food came to $36 I believe. I like round numbers and due to the good service and my generosity they got a $14 tip. A nice rule of thumb when ordering from a bartender is a dollar per drink stopping at $5 if most are just draft or opened bottles.



Bars are a mystery unto themselves when it comes to tipping. I usually tip a buck every other drink (Captains and Cokes, Scotch and Water). Beer? Well I find it's just easier to drop a 5'er on them when it's time to go.
#15 Dec 21 2006 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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It depends on what sort of tip it is, I suppose. I always tip the coffeeshop staff a couple bucks per drink. Meals are usually ~20% depending on the bill, less if the service is ****. I've left pennies before without shame if I was truly disgusted with the service. I tend to slide down the scale a bit on large bills. For some reason I refuse to tip someone more than $100, it doesn't feel right. Maybe for a large party of six or more I could see that, but then I wouldn't be footing that bill usually anyhow. All of my references here are for solo or couple dining.

Breakfast I always tip very well, usually double the bill if I'm solo or $5-$10 if the bill is in the $10-$20 range. Higher than that and standard tipping ettiquette applies.

Drinks at a bar are $1 plus any change that sometimes accompanies it if the bar has stupid prices (I was at a bar where a Corona cost me $3.63 before...freaks). Rounds are $3-$5.

I don't tip extra for holidays. I hate holidays.

In the vast majority of my experiences, built in tipping has worked out rather well for me as a consumer. Perhaps it's just the establishments I've visited but I find the staff to be superior to a lot of places of equivalent quality. Also, when you do leave a small tip as a gesture of appreciation the staff is truly grateful because both parties know that it is neither expected or required. I also firmly hold the belief that the American service industry is woefully lacking and inferior to many other cultures.
#16 Dec 21 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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I also firmly hold the belief that the American service industry is woefully lacking and inferior to many other cultures.
I dunno about that. When I lived in Lima, it was pretty well-known that the doorman would let anyone up unless you tipped him, and that extended all the way back into letting anyone have garage access. It paid to keep the doorman happy.
#17 Dec 21 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
Atomicflea wrote:
Soracloud the Charming wrote:
The check with food came to $36 I believe. I like round numbers and due to the good service and my generosity they got a $14 tip.
Yikes, I would have tipped $10 at the most.


Yeah this was kinda an extreme circumstance. Most Bars/Bartenders in the area don't even know what IPA stands for let alone what a good beer is. This was a kind of thank you for not being a generic BMC establishment. They do though need to work on their serving. A chilled pint with my ESB, pfft I don't think so.
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It was rather fun to watch him go to a place like TGI Friday's during a rush.
Even stuff like that, I understand. If the place is hella busy, then smile and say "I'm sorry I haven't checked on you yet... it's really busy today. What can I do for you?" Getting a good tip from me is easy: smile, act like you care that I'm there and basically make me feel as if I made a good call by choosing that restaurant to eat in. If you can't do that much, I'm sure as hell not going to "thank" you with money for doing a shitty job.
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#19 Dec 21 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
Situational for me, but 15% or $2 (whichever is greater) is the usual I go by. Poor service goes down, excellent service goes up.

Oh and if they charge $ for delivery, I take that out of the tip. Having worked for the pizza business, I know that charge goes to the drivers, so what reason do I have to tip on top of that? It meant to prevent shafting, which I'm glad they do that for that reason, but since I was going to tip anyways, it doesn't apply to me.
#20 Dec 21 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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IF the service is bad, I tend to walk out before the main course is served.

Good service will get the servers more then 15%.

I gave the van driver for a private company, cash at Christmas, but the staff at the center just get cards and if lucky I'll add in a penguin cartoon. If they decide to start bringing me in on their van, I would gift a small token gift for their coming so far out of their way.

Though I'm sure they could have used the cash, I think there is some code that prevents them from receiving monetary gifts from clients.

If I could afford serivces of a hair stylist or house cleaner, they would also recieve tips. Since Jonwin does most of the cooking and cleaning around here I'll just make sure to make he enjoys some extra bedroom activitys.

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#21 Dec 21 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
I think the best tip I ever left was a note written on the back of the VISA receipt saying : Get out of the service industry because you fail terribly at it.

I absolutely hate bad service. Smiley: mad
#22 Dec 21 2006 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
Atomicflea wrote:
I suppose I can see the point with the waitstaff (although not the bartender),



It depends on where you have a hosted bar or not. Having bartended for wedding receptions, conventions, etc., in my experience when the bar is hosted (free to the guests and billed to the contracting party) tips tend to be pretty Shitty. A lot of people figure that if the drink is free then there is no need to tip. Also any job I worked where the bartender's tip was billed in the contract, we were prohibited from having a tip glass on the bar.

Oh and if you are hosting the bar, you generally are billed for each bottle they open. Make sure you tell them you wany and bottles that were opened but not emptied. I worked with a manager who would crack open a few bottles just so he couple bill for them. Also tell them you want new sealed bottles. A lot of catering companies will "marry" the liquor bottles. That's where they take several partial bottles of one liquor and pour them all into one bottle. That is illegal in most states (because a lot of times a cheaper version of a liquor goes into a bottle of a more expensive one), but it still happens.

#23 Dec 21 2006 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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I absolutely hate bad service. Smiley: mad
Me too. Nothing makes me angrier.
#24 Dec 21 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
Althrun wrote:
Situational for me, but 15% or $2 (whichever is greater) is the usual I go by. Poor service goes down, excellent service goes up.

Oh and if they charge $ for delivery, I take that out of the tip. Having worked for the pizza business, I know that charge goes to the drivers, so what reason do I have to tip on top of that? It meant to prevent shafting, which I'm glad they do that for that reason, but since I was going to tip anyways, it doesn't apply to me.


That's far from universal. I used to deliver pizzas (I worked for a few places, all of whom charged for delivery) and not a penny of it went to me. Management said it was to offset out per-mile compensation and liability insurance. It sure was responsible for people stiffing me on tips, though. I don't know if that's changed (I delivered pizza 7-8 years ago), but you might want to ask your driver next time you order.
#25 Dec 21 2006 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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I've moved on to reading about this ferret that ate this baby's toes. Whaddya say now, ferret-lovers?
#26 Dec 21 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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That is why I make sure my toes are well covered at night, so my if our cats get a craving for fresh toe meat, they'll have to work their way under the covers.

No Free Toes allow around here.
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