You know what pisses me the **** off? All these reports and studies that talk about how women don't get paid the same as men to do the same stupid job. Cry me a frickin' river.
Ummmm, hellooo, ******** MEN have been bustin' their a$$ in the work place for ******* EONS! Then all of a sudden 20 YEARS ago you decide to FINALLY leave the house and expect to get all of the benefits and pay that we've spend HUNDREDS of years earning and negotiating for?! You're frickin' high.
How about this: Shut the **** up for a couple of hundred years, pay your ******* DUES, and then get back to us, you gravytraining fetus factories. And go make me a sammich.
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You know what pisses me off? that woman dont get paid the same as every one else because they should be equal member's in the work place female or male.
Proof positive you are a pu55y, Muffinman. Even your name's got gash written all over it.
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Proof positive you are a pu55y, Muffinman. Even your name's got gash written all over it.
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Edit: congrats on the super 13337 post count totem.
Edited, Dec 21st 2006 7:20am by MuffinMan
Meh. The only reason men have been busting their asses in the work place for eons is because they did such a fine job of marginalizing and repressing women.
Well played, guys.
I do think there are some jobs that women should just not be allowed to do though. That's another thread, I suppose.
Well played, guys.
I do think there are some jobs that women should just not be allowed to do though. That's another thread, I suppose.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
The Mrs. actually gets 10K less then guys in the same position at her company. She says its not really gender related but that they spend more time kissing the bosses ***. On the other hand she makes ~45-50K more a year then I do, so it evens out I guess?
It seems like every time someone brings up equal pay for the fairer sex, some woman at my company making 6 figures a year goes on maternity leave for 4 or 5 months and I think to myself "Yeah, that's worth it."
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
You do know that she doesn't get her full salary whilst on mat leave, right?
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Kakar wrote:
It seems like every time someone brings up equal pay for the fairer sex, some woman at my company making 6 figures a year goes on maternity leave for 4 or 5 months and I think to myself "Yeah, that's worth it."
Well sure, but how much are the men making, huh?
I wonder what the equivalent would be if Men left work for 4-5 months at a time....
bubspeed wrote:
I wonder what the equivalent would be if Men left work for 4-5 months at a time....
Men are given time off but I believe its without pay after three days. I wanna say 4 months and you are guaranteed to still have your job by the Family Medical Leave Act.
i sooooo agree with totem.
the F.A.A. is on a hiring spree for women. their gosl to make the staffing 50/50 for air traffic controllers.
the results so far? 2 of the 5 women trainees we have gotten in the last three years are out in extended leave having babies. one has been out for 5 months and the other just left and plans on atleast 3 months......and still getting paid by your tax dollars.....not to mention your tax dollars are also paying for overtime to cover the loss in men/women power for them not being there.
equal pay? your employer doesnt OWE YOU for having a babe. neither do TAX PAYERS.
can them. WHEN they decide they need a job, kind of like they decided to have a baby, hire them back.
i hope my wife doesnt read this........
the F.A.A. is on a hiring spree for women. their gosl to make the staffing 50/50 for air traffic controllers.
the results so far? 2 of the 5 women trainees we have gotten in the last three years are out in extended leave having babies. one has been out for 5 months and the other just left and plans on atleast 3 months......and still getting paid by your tax dollars.....not to mention your tax dollars are also paying for overtime to cover the loss in men/women power for them not being there.
equal pay? your employer doesnt OWE YOU for having a babe. neither do TAX PAYERS.
can them. WHEN they decide they need a job, kind of like they decided to have a baby, hire them back.
i hope my wife doesnt read this........
And who takes their positions while on Maternity leave???
That's right. Men do!
It's the same with people calling in sick for work because their $(*%*$ little darling is sick... They are mostly all women and now I have to do their freaking job too. The brats irresponsible parents haven't had the common sense to line up a babysitter.... The really sad part is all the other fat moms I work with all giggle and roll their eyes like they have been their and done that. It's acceptable in their eyes so the Mom is never canned.
That's right. Men do!
It's the same with people calling in sick for work because their $(*%*$ little darling is sick... They are mostly all women and now I have to do their freaking job too. The brats irresponsible parents haven't had the common sense to line up a babysitter.... The really sad part is all the other fat moms I work with all giggle and roll their eyes like they have been their and done that. It's acceptable in their eyes so the Mom is never canned.
shadowrelm wrote:
i sooooo agree with totem.
the F.A.A. is on a hiring spree for women. their gosl to make the staffing 50/50 for air traffic controllers.
the results so far? 2 of the 5 women trainees we have gotten in the last three years are out in extended leave having babies. one has been out for 5 months and the other just left and plans on atleast 3 months......and still getting paid by your tax dollars.....not to mention your tax dollars are also paying for overtime to cover the loss in men/women power for them not being there.
equal pay? your employer doesnt OWE YOU for having a babe. neither do TAX PAYERS.
can them. WHEN they decide they need a job, kind of like they decided to have a baby, hire them back.
i hope my wife doesnt read this........
the F.A.A. is on a hiring spree for women. their gosl to make the staffing 50/50 for air traffic controllers.
the results so far? 2 of the 5 women trainees we have gotten in the last three years are out in extended leave having babies. one has been out for 5 months and the other just left and plans on atleast 3 months......and still getting paid by your tax dollars.....not to mention your tax dollars are also paying for overtime to cover the loss in men/women power for them not being there.
equal pay? your employer doesnt OWE YOU for having a babe. neither do TAX PAYERS.
can them. WHEN they decide they need a job, kind of like they decided to have a baby, hire them back.
i hope my wife doesnt read this........
I hope to hell you never slip in coffee and break your neck. Because lets face it, your employer doesn't OWE YOU any Workmen's Comp. Neither do TAX PAYERS. They should just can your ***, when your neck is better, you can have a job.
For you to even decry that the Family Medical Act isn't a good thing proves exactly why you're an idiot.
I think Totem's stance is more along the line that if you even have the slighest notion that you are going to have a baby in the near future, then maybe you should find a job that is part time instead of tying up a perfectly good position. Afterall, the employer will now need to hire someone to take her place temporarily while she is out.
Kinda like some chicks I knew in college. They busted their boobies to get accepted to medical school and receive their phd's, only to meet some dumb bloke, get married 6 months later, and be barefoot and pregant for the next 10 years... Sure, their happy which is great but seems like a lot of wasted effort in the first place.
Kinda like some chicks I knew in college. They busted their boobies to get accepted to medical school and receive their phd's, only to meet some dumb bloke, get married 6 months later, and be barefoot and pregant for the next 10 years... Sure, their happy which is great but seems like a lot of wasted effort in the first place.
bubspeed wrote:
It's the same with people calling in sick for work because their $(*%*$ little darling is sick... They are mostly all women and now I have to do their freaking job too. The brats irresponsible parents haven't had the common sense to line up a babysitter.... The really sad part is all the other fat moms I work with all giggle and roll their eyes like they have been their and done that. It's acceptable in their eyes so the Mom is never canned.
There really is some truth to this. In my department, there are 4 women. Two of them started at the same time as me (we actually attended our new employee orientation together). The third was here for about 6 months when we started. All three of them have had children over the 7 years we've been with the company. Two are still "associate" engineers, one has been promoted to a full engineer. I'm the only one with no children, and in the same amount of time I've become a lead engineer (I have a whole project team that reports to me). I make a lot more money than they do as well. It's not because I'm more talented or smarter or a better developer than they are. They're all very good at what they do, and they've all run full projects on their own (competently, I will add). I just don't keep taking time off. Other than an occasional sick day and a week of vacation here and there, I'm in this office every single day working my butt off. My dedication to my job is what's helped me to advance.
A few of the other project leads and I were discussing this issue a few months back, and among those willing to reveal their salary, it turns out we all make within $5,000 of each other (which is less than a 5% difference up or down). I make a little bit more than one lead who's been here a year less than me, and a little bit less than the two leads who have been here longer.
Maybe my company is just really progressive when it comes to equal pay? It's possible, but I really think it has more to do with where an employee puts their focus. Mine has been on my job. The other women focus on their families (and there's nothing at all wrong with that!). I really don't want to hear them complain about not being paid the same. They're just not here 10 or 12 hours a day, six days a week. They're not doing the same amount of work as I am, or even as much as the junior (male) developers who are here working just as hard as I am. We all have to make choices about where we will put our efforts. If you want to have the responsibility of a family, you have to understand that's going to take time away from working on advancing your career, whether you are a man or a woman.
bubspeed wrote:
I wonder what the equivalent would be if Men left work for 4-5 months at a time....
Unemployment.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
shadowrelm wrote:
2 of the 5 women trainees we have gotten in the last three years are out in extended leave having babies. one has been out for 5 months and the other just left and plans on atleast 3 months......and still getting paid by your tax dollars.....not to mention your tax dollars are also paying for overtime to cover the loss in men/women power for them not being there.
....
Well, let's just say that's a bridge you'd be better off not crossing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
bubspeed wrote:
I think Totem's stance is more along the line that if you even have the slighest notion that you are going to have a baby in the near future, then maybe you should find a job that is part time instead of tying up a perfectly good position. Afterall, the employer will now need to hire someone to take her place temporarily while she is out.
Kinda like some chicks I knew in college. They busted their boobies to get accepted to medical school and receive their phd's, only to meet some dumb bloke, get married 6 months later, and be barefoot and pregant for the next 10 years... Sure, their happy which is great but seems like a lot of wasted effort in the first place.
Kinda like some chicks I knew in college. They busted their boobies to get accepted to medical school and receive their phd's, only to meet some dumb bloke, get married 6 months later, and be barefoot and pregant for the next 10 years... Sure, their happy which is great but seems like a lot of wasted effort in the first place.
I thought Totem's stance was that it was frelling slow as hell these days in the asylum and he's trolling.
But I could be wrong - are we meant to be discussing this seriously?
Unfortunately, the days when it's slowest on the boards are usually the days when it's slowest at work as well.
We're all just killing time here waiting for noon, Friday and you guys aren't doing much to help pass the time faster.
Speaking of things that **** me off, Firefox updated and now half of my AdBlocks need to be re-done
Edited, Dec 21st 2006 9:59am by Jophiel
We're all just killing time here waiting for noon, Friday and you guys aren't doing much to help pass the time faster.
Speaking of things that **** me off, Firefox updated and now half of my AdBlocks need to be re-done
Edited, Dec 21st 2006 9:59am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I would like to offer my own views on this. I am a female. I want to state that first. Secondly, women make less than men, but there are reasons for it. Reason number one: men work in jobs that are higher risk and manual labor and therefore require more pay. Jobs such as construction. I know there are some women in these fields, but for the most part, they are run by men. Secondly, women join the work force later in life and reitre early than men. Therefore, your life pay is less than what your husbands is. Third, women take more time off than men. Either to have kids, because they can't sit at a desk with a stuffed up nose, or because the kids are sick. Whatever the reason, women call off more. So yes, men get paid more, but they deserve it! Most of the people that still complain about gender-related salaries, are feminists that have long left the struggle for equality, and have moved on to superiority. They need to get over it. End of story.
Jophiel wrote:
We're all just killing time here waiting for noon, Friday and you guys aren't doing much to help pass the time faster.
I want a half dayTare wrote:
Meh. The only reason men have been busting their asses in the work place for eons is because they did such a fine job of marginalizing and repressing women.
Oh, and 4-5 months? WTF? you're lucky if you get 90 days.
Sorry Joph.
You know, for all the whining about maternity leave and whatnot, you'd think that the sprog wasn't your crotchfruit too. Maybe if you'd get off your *** once in a while and change a nappy or pick up your socks women would have more time for workin'.
Maybe them barefoot and pregnant wimmenz should only prepare dinner for themsleves and the kid and you all can have the leftovers and scraps. See how YOU like it!
better?
You know, for all the whining about maternity leave and whatnot, you'd think that the sprog wasn't your crotchfruit too. Maybe if you'd get off your *** once in a while and change a nappy or pick up your socks women would have more time for workin'.
Maybe them barefoot and pregnant wimmenz should only prepare dinner for themsleves and the kid and you all can have the leftovers and scraps. See how YOU like it!
better?
Celcio wrote:
Sorry Joph.
You know, for all the whining about maternity leave and whatnot, you'd think that the sprog wasn't your crotchfruit too. Maybe if you'd get off your *** once in a while and change a nappy or pick up your socks women would have more time for workin'.
Maybe them barefoot and pregnant wimmenz should only prepare dinner for themsleves and the kid and you all can have the leftovers and scraps. See how YOU like it!
better?
You know, for all the whining about maternity leave and whatnot, you'd think that the sprog wasn't your crotchfruit too. Maybe if you'd get off your *** once in a while and change a nappy or pick up your socks women would have more time for workin'.
Maybe them barefoot and pregnant wimmenz should only prepare dinner for themsleves and the kid and you all can have the leftovers and scraps. See how YOU like it!
better?
Who gets half a day on Friday??? You hoser!!
We are open to 5:00pm on Friday and 8:30 - 12:30pm on Saturday. Merry frigging Christmas...
Meanwhile the boss and his white trash wife are sipping mimosas on the beach somewhere and discussing how to milk their employees out of more time and less pay.
I am not bitter though.
There are people who have it worse.......RETAIL... But they are inbred morons anyway.
We are open to 5:00pm on Friday and 8:30 - 12:30pm on Saturday. Merry frigging Christmas...
Meanwhile the boss and his white trash wife are sipping mimosas on the beach somewhere and discussing how to milk their employees out of more time and less pay.
I am not bitter though.
There are people who have it worse.......RETAIL... But they are inbred morons anyway.
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