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I'm actually really enjoying playing.

Sack up and quit being ********

I've been having fun playing again too. Really looking forward to the expansion. I'd like to say I won't make one of the new characters, but I know better.

That's their answer to the smaller raid sizes? Seems pretty short-sighted.

I like casual raiding. Which 25 man raids provide.

In EQ2 where it is 24 man raids the guild myself and DSD were in managed to raid 3 nights a week with about 30-35 players. 30-35 meant that few people ever had to sit on the bench. Also meant that people with kids, real life stuff could miss a raid and things would still move along.

With the Asylum people we could probably snatch a core group of gamers say in 10-15 steady and then only have to shop for say 15 more (which we could easily poach from TFS or other guilds).

Set up a casual raid guild of like minded people, 25 people means less competition for uber lewts so less of a dkp nightmare.

I'd be interested but there is no way in hell I am leveling another toon up to 1-60. Only works if I can transfer.

I really despise the whole no pvp/Pve transfer deal. If it wasnt for that it would be fairly simple for all of us to congregate, even if it was only to do 5 man strat runs or the occassional 10man ubrs.

We are however limited and there will always be divides over pvp vs pve and alliance vs horde.

Oh well until you guys have things hammered out I will be raiding in eq2.

Yeah, what Sam said. Stayin' on Steamwheedle, tyvm.

I just barely got my warrior to 60 and got an epic mount. I'm not going anywhere. Unless it's on Shadow Council Alliance I doubt I'll be going anywhere for you MMO-ADD whores.

I'd love to hear your guys' solution.

Here's what we got.

We have 25ish players that show up and attend every single raid, and have since they joined.

When the expansion rolls around and there are new dungeons, with the largest being 25 man, what are we supposed to tell them? If there was/is an alternative our guild will work to achieve that, but i just dont see how we can cram the 40 people that want to raid in a 25 man instance.

You guys are making it sound like we are a bunch of pricks when the only reason it's a problem is because of the new caps. With the current 40 mans everyone does get to raid, since we have near 40 people that want to. It's pretty basic.

If you have some ideas that don't tell our members that have put some serious time into this guild (what we are calling our "core members") to sit out ever we'd love to consider it. Otherwise it's just not fair to make those people sit on the sideline when we know we can count on them. Ideally a static raid group is the way to go. You dont have to explain things over and over and everyone knows what everyone else does.

So please, enlighten me.

That's patently, if not blatantly, false. Nothing was ever said about lower levels not being able to raid. As people said repeatedly on our forums and as KT said here already, if the cap is 25 people, only 25 people can be in the raid. If more people than that show up for a raid, there has to be some way to discern who'll be raiding and who won't. Here's the important part, so I'll bold it for emphasis: nobody has decided what that method will be. How you came about this notion that people who aren't 60 now won't be able to raid is beyond me.

If you still think you won't be able to participate in raids when you hit 60 (or 70 as the case may be), despite numerous people saying otherwise, then I guess nobody can stop you from leaving. However, if you decide to give me the benefit of the doubt, level to 60/70 and then want to raid, I give you my word as someone who's been in the guild since before we even had 4 level 60s that you'll be able to.

I'm sort of just leveling up a toon on each of the following servers, depending on who's on to chat with: Shadow Council, Anetheron, and Cenarion Circle.

It's been fun getting back into the game. TFS guild is a lot of fun on Anetheron, it's great chatting with Neph and Goat on Shadow Council, and Cenarion Circle is cool because it's a PST server and I'm guilded with folks on another board I frequent.

I'm definitely going to roll up a Draenei and Blood Elf. As to where, well, most likely Shadow Council. Everyone here seems to still have some toons on there in some form or another.

Any which way, I'm restarting from scratch (unless I go back to Feathermoon where my wife plays, but its server queues are hideous). It will be quite a while before I can even consider raiding - something I would like to do at some point. Maybe by then, things will have fallen into place.

Understood, of course.

Always good to have a pool of good players to draw from, since your regulars can't possibly make every raid every week, unless they have no lives at all. If they're happy PVP'in' while the rest of you raid, that works. /shrug

One of the resident "I have sand in my ******" ***** was his or her normal brash self when this issue came up and things were blown out of proportion.




I wouldnt leave out of fear of not being able to raid. I know I dont have the time to dedicate to being a raider, so it was never a concern of mine. Hell, I usually don't have time to run through DM or Stocks, how would I be able to do a raid?

Learn2Read my above post you nublet....