vanguard goes to pre order....again.....Follow

december 5th. preorder boxes should be hitting gamming stores.

wonder if that means i need to get a refund from EB for the preorder i purchased almost a year ago and buy the new one?

looking good for early 2007.

Anyone played and can verify it's worth anything?

The game is system intensive. Like really f'ucking system intensive.

The game is made by the old eq1 crew so some grindage is to be expected. However I heard that getting a Griffon Mount that flies anywhere is the slipnipsnizzlesh'it.

The basic thing I heard most often from people playing the beta is simply "Lots of potential but needs a LOT of work".

i did "hypothetical" beta for a couple weeks, then passed it on to some friends who played with it for a while.

weather i say it is good or bad would be pointless, since every one will have their own openion, so i wont go into that.

AMD 4200 duel processor, radeon 1600 PCIE video card, and it worked fine on settings somwrhere near the middle. think EQ2. a sliding scale that adds layers of graphics, kind of like photo shop and layering. like EQ2, its not that the graphics are so far advanced, it is just the sheer volume of graphics they layer on top of each other. the lower the settings, the fewer the layers.

its a cheap trick. makes you think it has state of the art future graphics, when all it has is the tried and true in several layers.

what graphic card you have wont make as much a differance as what type of connection you have. its more about volume than clarity. you would need a T3 line to see everything. the more memory your graphics card has is actually more important with this system than how fast the processor is on it. IE, a radeon 9700 with 512 mb will do better than a PCI-E 1800 with 128 mb on it.

it looks good. as good as EQ2.

all about the grind. OMG, they added new ways to grind. you could concievably grind out a single character for a couple years as a casual player and never completly develop that character.

grindings not for me. that said, i will buy it because the first 20 or so levels in any new game are awsome. after that, they all just loose interest for me. same ole same ole for the next zillion hours of whack-a-mole. its why i stoped beta. didnt want to ruin the game before it launched for me. i dont do trade skills. i dont care about "prestigious titles", i dont care if i have the only set of purple armour in the game. i just want to play and have fun and see stuff i havent seen before. and usually that comes to a screeching halt after the first 20 levels or so as a casual gamer.

you hard core types are gona love it. it stands a good chance of being the finale nail in EQ1s coffin. it will never even put a dent in WoW. two totally differant types of players.

IMO a niche game with a little something something for everyone. that something something will wear thin in a very short while though, and the casual masses wil flock back to WoW, the only truly casual gamer game out ATM, and "big supprise" the largest and most sucessfull game out right now......could there be some connection with the number of people who just want to have a little fun as opposed to the number of people who want a second job when it comes to gaming?.........blizzard will never tell.....

Edited, Dec 12th 2006 11:35am by shadowrelm

If I had been (hypothetically) in beta for about 2 months but my old *** gforce (about 3 years old) would make it impossible to play for anything longer than a couple of minutes. From what I would have been able to see of the game in my short stints of play it's a bit like WoW with EQ models and EQ type slow xp gain. But what did you expect from the old Verant folks?

Edited, Dec 12th 2006 11:20am by Natdatilgnome

you really dont need a latest and greatest video card. just something with a whole lot of memory and a good connection. you cable types are going to do better than dsl with this game.

right now, the video card im using, which does a decent job, a radeon 1600 PCI-E with 512 memory can be bought for around 200 bucks on pricewatch.com

it looks fine on my other computer, a AMD 3000 with a radeon 9800 AGP and 512 memory too. the differance between going from a 4200 duel core to a 3000 and a PCI-E to an older AGP was just one click on the slide bar to get the same playability. hardly noticiable. like i said, its more about connection and memory than latest and greatest processing power.

on the other hand, you dial up types should just skip this game alltogether. the settings you would be able to play it on would not be worth looking at. their gona loose a large chunk of potential market here. something blizzard took into account with their less intensive graphics.

but we should all be thankfull, weather we like the game or not, that we have choices. that there are more than one company making games, and that they dont all look exactly alike.

vanguard probably wont be my cup of tea for a very long time, certainly not the next EQ1 for me personally, but i will be happy it was made anyway, and i will buy it even if i dont expect to be playing it for more than a year. im all about seeing something totally new. just all against the grind........

I'm looking foward to a game that takes forever to level and is difficult, it tends to weed the idiots out real fast.

Your argument would hold some merit if it were not for the fact that the existence of FFXI completely and incontrovertibly disproved it.

Edited, Dec 12th 2006 2:38pm by bodhisattva

FFXI is bothed played on PS2 and PC on the same servers. I think this is part of what makes it the exception. That and FF has a lot of fanbois and the whole ***/na thing doesn't help.

Regardless, it has been out for 2 years in NA. The game is still perhaps the most grind intensive game out there (beating even the original EQ). Surely by now the majority of idiots would have been weeded out by now, right? Wrong.

Grindage and timesinks have never been a barrier to idiocy.

Tip of the day - Jroc~esque one liners a good poster does not make.

Played it for a few weeks myself.

No need to spend money on something like that.