http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,235518,00.html
Feds Arrest Man They Say Planned to Detonate Grenades in Illinois Shopping Mall
CHICAGO — A man has been arrested by federal agents on charges of planning to set off hand grenades at an Illinois shopping mall on Dec. 22 as part of his plan to commit "violent jihad" against civilians.
Holy ****! There was a organized terrorist plot to detonate hand grenades inside a shopping mall? Thank god we spent $2.6 million to foil it. I mean if it had been some dead broke whackjob with a pair of speakers who wanted to put grenades in trash cans or something...
Derrick Shareef, 22, of Rockford, was arrested when he carried out a rendezvous with an undercover agent in a parking lot to trade a set of stereo speakers for four grenades and a handgun.
Federal officials said he planned to place the grenades in garbage cans at the CherryVale shopping mall in Rockford, about 90 miles northwest of Chicago.
Son of a..
Really, I know fear sells and call, but can't we title these headlines "Lunatic tries to sell speakers" so I don't waste my time?
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Well on the plus side of this, godraiden won't be spamming us until the feds get done interrogating him!
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Listen, monuments I can handle---but don't fuck with my malls, bastages.
Wow, if the moran wanted to blow up a few trash cans wouldn't a couple of M80's have been better?
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Well on the plus side of this, godraiden won't be spamming us until the feds get done interrogating him!
What happened this time? lol
Althrun wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Well on the plus side of this, godraiden won't be spamming us until the feds get done interrogating him!
What happened this time? lol
whoosh
Jihad, nothing -- it probably had one of those Marshall Field's-turned-Macy's.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well Rockford, Illinois is the hometown of Cheap Trick. They must have all kinds of tacky pyrotechnics in their malls.
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Derrick Shareef, 22, of Rockford, was arrested when he carried out a rendezvous with an undercover agent in a parking lot to trade a set of stereo speakers for four grenades and a handgun.
Man, those must have been some sweet speakers!
Jophiel wrote:
Jihad, nothing -- it probably had one of those Marshall Field's-turned-Macy's.
Fucking Amen to that.
FOX wrote:
Shareef was charged with one count of attempting to damage or destroy a building by fire or explosion and one count of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
He was planning on smuggling them in... you know... down "there". That made them bio weapons.
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Jophiel wrote:
FOX wrote:
Shareef was charged with one count of attempting to damage or destroy a building by fire or explosion and one count of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.
Apparently, for quite some time.
From Sec 18, title 2332a
Quote:
(2) the term “weapon of mass destruction†means—
(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life;
(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life;
From Sec 18, title 921
Quote:
(4) The term “destructive device†means—
(A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—
(i) bomb,
(ii) grenade,
(iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces,
(iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
(v) mine, or
(vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses;
(A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—
(i) bomb,
(ii) grenade,
(iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces,
(iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
(v) mine, or
(vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses;
Not sure when or if this was changed recently, or has been a working definition in our legal code since before WMDs became an overused term specific to bio/chem/nuke weapons.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
Wow, if the moran wanted to blow up a few trash cans wouldn't a couple of M80's have been better?
Cherry bombs FTW.
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A wha' now? Since when are hand grenades "weapons of mass destruction"?
Well, what constitutes "Mass Destruction"? I'm fairly certain a well placed 'nade could bring down a decent sized structure. it would be destruction. But, would it be massive?
Huh. Seems a bit broad to me but apparently them are the rules.
A previous legal definition I've quoted before confined the definition to chemical/biological/radioactive materials.
A previous legal definition I've quoted before confined the definition to chemical/biological/radioactive materials.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Abadd wrote:
Quote:
A wha' now? Since when are hand grenades "weapons of mass destruction"?
Well, what constitutes "Mass Destruction"? I'm fairly certain a well placed 'nade could bring down a decent sized structure. it would be destruction. But, would it be massive?
If you consider a mall t-shirt cart a 'decent sized structure' maybe...
Booooooooooooo! U suk! Damn, that was painful. You and your mall t-shirt cart are fired.
Sharpen up already. Put on the blindfold. I wanna see you retrieve at least two bricks from the bottom of the pool.
Sharpen up already. Put on the blindfold. I wanna see you retrieve at least two bricks from the bottom of the pool.
Situation normal, Muzzies want to kill us all.
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Quote:
From Sec 18, title 2332a
From Sec 18, title 921
Quote:
(2) the term “weapon of mass destruction†means—
(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life;
(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life;
From Sec 18, title 921
Quote:
(4) The term “destructive device†means—
(A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—
(i) bomb,
(ii) grenade,
(iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces,
(iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
(v) mine, or
(vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses;
(A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—
(i) bomb,
(ii) grenade,
(iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces,
(iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
(v) mine, or
(vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses;
Does this mean that Bush was right, and there really were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
The code cited was revised in July 2006.
I suppose if you broaden the definition enough, you can eventually claim justification.
I suppose if you broaden the definition enough, you can eventually claim justification.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
MonxDoT wrote:
Booooooooooooo! U suk! Damn, that was painful. You and your mall t-shirt cart are fired.
Sharpen up already. Put on the blindfold. I wanna see you retrieve at least two bricks from the bottom of the pool.
Sharpen up already. Put on the blindfold. I wanna see you retrieve at least two bricks from the bottom of the pool.
Dear, when you dive down to get those, be sure to take as deep a breath you can.
People are not so good at assessing risk. Generally, a new risk is seen as vastly worse then risks we have already been living with.
SARS was a perfect example. During the "outbreak", loads more people died from the flu, food poisoning, treatable cancers, etc. Avian flu is another one.
About 15000 people in the US are murdered per year (about 5 per 100,000) so it sort of puts threats like terrorism in perspective. If not a single American (in America) died from terrorism, the murder rate would be virtually uneffected - decreased by something on the order of a percent or two.
By contrast, most first world nations have about half the murder rate of the USA, thus increasing ones odd of being slain by a human by 100% (doubling).
This is why we still burn fossel fuels in power plants and don't use much nuclear power. Statistically, we're shaving years off the lives of everyone in the nation - let's ignore global warming for the moment - through simply breathing the byproducts. However, if we had ten times the number of nuclear plants we do now and thus we had to reprocess the spent fuel - there would be accidents. Yep, people would die - far, far fewer years of life would be lost, overall. Some would have their lives abruptly curtailed. It wouldn't be like a slow small shaving of all our lives. There would be "news". People would riot. They don't want it.
SARS was a perfect example. During the "outbreak", loads more people died from the flu, food poisoning, treatable cancers, etc. Avian flu is another one.
About 15000 people in the US are murdered per year (about 5 per 100,000) so it sort of puts threats like terrorism in perspective. If not a single American (in America) died from terrorism, the murder rate would be virtually uneffected - decreased by something on the order of a percent or two.
By contrast, most first world nations have about half the murder rate of the USA, thus increasing ones odd of being slain by a human by 100% (doubling).
This is why we still burn fossel fuels in power plants and don't use much nuclear power. Statistically, we're shaving years off the lives of everyone in the nation - let's ignore global warming for the moment - through simply breathing the byproducts. However, if we had ten times the number of nuclear plants we do now and thus we had to reprocess the spent fuel - there would be accidents. Yep, people would die - far, far fewer years of life would be lost, overall. Some would have their lives abruptly curtailed. It wouldn't be like a slow small shaving of all our lives. There would be "news". People would riot. They don't want it.
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