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#1 Dec 02 2006 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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With USC's loss to UCLA tonight, they are out of the picture for the BCS championship with their second loss. Now, it comes down to either the University of Michigan Wolverines, or the University of Florida Gators. Both teams have one loss, and No. 2 ranked Michigan has the second highest schedule strength in the NCAA next to No. 3 ranked Florida.

The only catch is that Michigan has already played No. 1 Ohio State, and lost. However, they only lost by 3 points, and the game was played in Columbus. Gator fans will argue that it's time for somebody else to have a shot at OSU, and that, unlike Michigan, they won their division. Michigan fans will counter by arguing that the BCS championship should be played between the two best teams, and if Michigan is that second best team, they deserve the shot.

So, who do you think should play the Fückeyes Buckeyes in Arizona on the 8th for the BCS National Championship: Michigan or Florida?
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#2 Dec 02 2006 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
Florida.

It is 100% bullshit for Ohio State to have to beat Michigan in 2 consecutive games to win the title while Michigan only has to win 1 of 2.
#3 Dec 02 2006 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
Either way, it's going to be a low rated game, no East vs West this year, we have already beaten Michigan time for a new team to step up to the plate. C'mon Gators give us Buckeyes a good game.

Wow, just realized that I was born in Florida, and yet, my entire family is from Ohio, I think I gotta go Buckeyes on this one though.

Edited, Dec 2nd 2006 9:46pm by Rabidsquirel
#4 Dec 02 2006 at 11:32 PM Rating: Good
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It doesn't really matter, the National Championship game has already been played, and the Buckeyes won. My vote is for Florida, let Ohio State go ahead and dominate another Florida team.
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#5 Dec 03 2006 at 2:26 AM Rating: Default
Well, there was this storym about a nekid man on crack,
Who jumped into a Gator Pitt,

How the Forum longed for the ding-dong to be shortened. Butt-nekid, on crack, that's what you get, when you interrupt the White Man!

#6 Dec 03 2006 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
I'd say Florida, simply to see a different matchup. They will probably stick to the BCS standings though and it will be Michigan.....no way it could come close to their first match up though.
#7 Dec 03 2006 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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#8 Dec 03 2006 at 7:57 AM Rating: Default
gators are a better team than both of them. as far as us floridaians are concerned, this whole mess has been about who gets the right to play the gators/.
#9 Dec 03 2006 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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If you are going to dismiss Michigan as being the logical choice for being #2, thus losing their opportunity for a national championship, then you can only logically say that Boise State is due for their shot at the title since they and Ohio are the only undefeated ranked teams in the nation. Add to that that Florida had the embarrassing incident with Florida International where several of their players behaved with unsportsmanship conduct several weeks past, and I think BS is the only team left with a legitimate claim to the title.

All that said, Michigan still deserves another shot at the championship.

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#10 Dec 03 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Now let's clear up any misconceptions about conferences and losses. The SEC was the toughest conference in football when you look at the overall difficulty, but Michigan had to compete with number one all year long. Michigan's only loss was also to that number one team, and it was only by 3 in Columbus. They lost to an undefeated team, the best in the country (according to BCS rankings and polls). Florida's only loss came on the road against Auburn, a 10-2 team who's two losses came to unranked opponents.

In my mind, there's no question that Ohio State and Michigan are the two best teams in the country, and anybody that thinks that Florida "deserves a shot" just because they don't want to see a rematch should be bound and shot. The BCS championship is supposed to be played between the two best teams in the country, and there is no way that anybody can argue that Florida could beat Michigan.
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#11 Dec 03 2006 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
Demea wrote:
Michigan had to compete with number one all year long.
No they didn't, they had to compete with number 1 exactly once, and they lost.

Demea wrote:
there is no way that anybody can argue that Florida could beat Michigan.
We'll never know without seeing them play. Anything else is guesswork and is exactly the problem with the current "system".

someone in another forum wrote:
Here are the cold, hard facts when comparing the Gators and Wolverines:

1. Florida beat nine teams that are projected to play in bowl games. Michigan beat six.

2. Michigan beat five teams that finished the season with losing records. Florida beat two teams with sub-.500 records.

3. Florida's 12 Division I-A opponents had a combined record of 89-57. Michigan's 12 opponents had a combined record of 84-61.

4. Michigan's best win is considered a 27-13 victory over Wisconsin on Sept. 23. The Badgers are 11-1 and have climbed to No. 7 in the AP Top 25 poll, despite having played only one ranked opponent -- the Wolverines -- the entire season.

5. The 12 teams Florida defeated finished the season with 11 combined wins against opponents which were ranked in the AP Top 25 poll at the time the game was played. The opponents Michigan defeated claim just three wins against ranked teams (Notre Dame beat Penn State. Indiana beat Iowa. Vanderbilt beat Georgia. The Nittany Lions, Hawkeyes and Bulldogs, it should be noted, haven't been ranked in seven weeks).

6. The Gators went 3-1 against ranked opponents, beating then-No. 13 Tennessee, No. 9 LSU and No. 8 Arkansas and losing at No. 11 Auburn. The Wolverines went 1-1 against ranked opponents, beating a highly overrated No. 2 Notre Dame team (that lost to Michigan and USC by a combined total of 46 points) and losing at No. 1 Ohio State 42-39 on Nov. 18.

7. The Gators' average margin of victory against Division I-A teams was 13.5 points. They won seven games by 14 points or fewer, six by less than 10. The Wolverines' average margin of victory was 17.3 points. They won six games by 14 points or fewer, two by less than 10.

8. The Gators played Western Carolina, a Division I-AA team, and won by 62 points. The Wolverines played Ball State, which should be a I-AA team, and won by eight.

9. Since the Wolverines last played and lost at Ohio State, the Gators won at Florida State (The Seminoles are 6-6, but rivalry games are tough to win. Just ask USC coach Pete Carroll) and then beat the No. 8 Razorbacks, who defeated then-No. 2 Auburn and No. 13 Tennessee by 17 points each.
#12 Dec 03 2006 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Moot point now. Florida was picked, so let's hope they lose badly, thus proving that Michigan deserved a shot at the championship. Either that or Boise State.

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#13 Dec 03 2006 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
Totem wrote:
so let's hope they lose badly, thus proving that Michigan deserved a shot at the championship.
I'm actually hoping that we end the bowls with no undefeated teams and several 1-loss teams so someone might finally get their heads out of their asses and put together a system for determining the champ.
#14 Dec 03 2006 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
I want Ohio State to win, lest I want my entire family to eat my face off.
#15 Dec 03 2006 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
Professor CrescentFresh wrote:
Totem wrote:
so let's hope they lose badly, thus proving that Michigan deserved a shot at the championship.
I'm actually hoping that we end the bowls with no undefeated teams and several 1-loss teams so someone might finally get their heads out of their asses and put together a system for determining the champ.


A buddy of mine in a different forum posted this:

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I prefer the current format over a possible playoff format. Yeah, it's not perfect but atleast in this you know that every single game counts. The very first game of the year might as well be a playoff game, there are no throwaway games. If we had a playoff format, when USC played UCLA on Saturday (badass game btw, haha USC) no one would have cared. USC would have already clenched their playoff spot, they'd be resting their starters, etc...going for the win yeah but a loss wouldn't have been a big deal. When Texas played Ohio St. early in the season everyone knew what was at stake in that game, the tension and build-up was awesome. Playoff format? Something similar probably but not near as much pressure or hype. In a playoff format yeah the playoff games would be badass but the regular season would be so dull, aside from the rare games toward the end of the season where a team would be fighting for a playoff spot. I really like the setup right now, it's why the entire college football season matters to me, as opposed to the NFL where I don't pay much attention until the end of the season or the playoffs.


it sums up pretty well why a playoff system would be pretty crappy to do in the college realm.

I personally am a huge OSU fan (a junior there right now) and am very excited for the game in Arizona. As for the whole argument... Michigan had their chance... they lost (by 3 points -- which, by the way the game was played should not have been that close) and UofM did not win the Big 10. That sucks for them, but better luck next year? OSU won the Big 10 and UF won the SEC, USC won the PAC10. Those 2 teams deserve it over Michigan, plus the strength of schedule that Florida had just stronger (debatably).
#16 Dec 04 2006 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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If we had a playoff format, when USC played UCLA on Saturday (badass game btw, haha USC) no one would have cared. USC would have already clenched their playoff spot, they'd be resting their starters, etc...going for the win yeah but a loss wouldn't have been a big deal.
He is making assumptions about how a playoff would be implemented. Specifically, he is assuming that a team could "clench" a playoff spot and from that point forward they wouldn't have to win a single game.
#17 Dec 04 2006 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
Not sure, I don't really follow croquette.
#18REDACTED, Posted: Dec 04 2006 at 7:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the H*LL has Michigan done to deserve a championship game? They're only wins vs ranked teams are Wisc and ND. And why the h*ll ND was ever ranked in the top 20 is beyond me. Who did they defeat to earn that ranking?
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