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meh, '96? I think I got married that year. I was thinking you were a child yourself when you heard that kind of stuff.

in his defense; He absolutely did point out that it was a bad word and not to say it. He did this after he had said it though. I think it just slipped. It was the Toe thing with "catch a <*****> by his toe". Funny that it was so ingrained that he still said it to his grandkid accidentally and then had to correct himself. Especialy since there had already been a viable substitute for years.



That being said, I hope no real sensitive black people aren't passing my open window while I'm playing Call of Duty. Or real sensitive anybody for that matter.

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 3:47pm by Kelvyquayo

That's ok. Even the Mexicans down here say "That's not right" when you add an R to words like Law.

Words are words to me, and in the end I'm not going to get up and rally because somebody called me an "imbred ****** cracka *** ****!" But you should know with whom you're socializing and what their position is before dropping stereotypes down on them. Some of my best days are spent with my buddies playing into our specific stereotype.

But to ban a the "n-word" only would cause angst and ultimately create more racial tension. People would consider it as a move of favoritism(I realize it's an ironic statement, but look who we're talking about) and would revolt against it all together.

Most of the time, acting in good faith usually ends with the opposite results.

I didn't know until just now :(

As a child we had learned it with "Tigger" which, despite the royalty potential for A.A. Milne's estate, was a pretty lame compromise.

The problem is that The Cosby Show is quite old now. There is no new show (keep in mind I don't watch TV hardly at all anymore) to educate todays youth.

You know, I just remembered an episode where Theo and a friend was going around depicting women as hamburgers. The more fixings they named off, the hotter the woman was. That was until one of his sisters heard it and they started referring to men as something else similar around Theo and his bud. That stopped it dead in his tracks.

Yup, a new cosby type show would help a lot.

Reminds me of a situation with a few of my friends/cousins when we were all kids. We used to play D&D back then, and somewhere along the line they had picked up a term to use for when you abuse the rules to gain "free" experience points. They'd use this term anytime they were able to defeat some bad guys or complete some other task in a way that didn't actually involve much effort or risk. They called the exp gained in said manner "Jew Points".

They had no clue what the word "jew" meant. Nor did I back then. Certainly, they had no clue that it was offensive.


I think that many many uses of derogatory terms tend to fall into those catagories. In the same way that nursery rhymes seem to pass from kid to kid without any adult intervention, these terms also pass as well. And unless those kids use the term in front of an adult and that adult corrects them, they'll simply never know (until they get much older typically). In some cases, they may use the term even much later in life without realizing it (like the Macaca incident for example).

Heh. For the record, I'd always learned it as "tiger" as well. Never knew there'd ever been a different word in there...

My ex's step father use to love to call those nuts, n-toes in my presence.

I have several young friends who constantly call each other by the n-word, but ever since my grade school class was told that use of the word would get us suspended, I haven't been able to say it. There are so many things, the younger genderation seem to feel free to do and say, that would have been unthought of us 30 years ago.

Because my parents made sure we had a wide range of books to read as children, they also made sure we knew that there were words that were never spoken. Nothing I read was censor, but I early on learn that words that were often in use a generation before were no longer acceptable to use unless in scholarly papers. Still there were a lot of stories and rhymes, I learn later had been changed over the years to make ten acceptable for modern use. We always said tiger.

Of course I learn many of these words, reading scholarly papers.

What about King Booker? A great role model for lil N's everywhere!

What's next, throwing black people out of clubs?

Word up *****, word up.



Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air

In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Startin makin trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in bel Air'


It's hard for me to write this, but I agree with totem. There is something about what people call "black culture", the whole gangsta rap/bling/pimp/crime stuff that's really disturbing and extremely harmful on young black kids. Especially those that have broken families, and tend to choose rap "artists" as role models. Even for those who don't the subconscious influence is still there.

I understand it's a whole new topic, and it's not that simple since you have to factor in the socio-economic conditions some those people live in, as well as the more general American values around them, but still. That culture seems almost self-destructive.

There can be only one Highlander!


I think I might be whiter than you, but I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Mmm-hmm. This is interesting.