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#1 Nov 24 2006 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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Shiite Militiamen Kill 25 Sunnis in Iraq
Fri Nov 24, 1:05 PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Shiite militiamen doused six Sunni Arabs with kerosene and burned them alive as Iraqi soldiers stood by, and killed 19 other Sunnis in attacks on their mosques Friday, taking revenge for the slaughter of at least 215 Shiites in the Sadr City slum the day before.


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When the authorities that are supposed to put a stop to this sort of thing identify with one faction or the other, what hope is there for any sort of peaceful co-existence without the iron fist of a brutal dictator hovering nearby ready to smite anyone who gets out of line?
#2 Nov 24 2006 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Luckily, as soon as the Iraqi soldiers stand up, we can stand down!

Actually, that might be it. Maybe they're afraid that as soon as they show some gumption, we're going to leave and they'll have to shoulder the load of their fucked up nation.
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#3 Nov 24 2006 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Crazy, that would be like police in this country attacking blacks with dogs or something. ******* savages.

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#4 Nov 30 2006 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
there will be an iraqi nation. there was an iraqi nation before there was an american nation. it was a democracy too.

there will be another. just not the one our current addministraition would like to see. but any one who studied any history of the middle east could have told him that before we went in to prove we are stupid to the rest of the world.

the sectarian violance is speeding up now because Syiera and Iran know what we are not ready to admit yet. that the U.S. will not be a major influence there, nor will we have any controll on what happens there.

soo, the fight is shifting away from us, although killing americans is still certianly on their top ten list, and more towards shaping the structure of the newly forming iraqi government. and the iraqi leadership KNOWS we are an insignificant force in shaping the iraqi political structure, sooo, it is either sit and wait for us to leave and be immediatly slaughtered when it happens, or grasp on to the most powerfull force pushing in on iraq to save their own necks. thus, the negotiations with Iran and Syeria. and thus the increased sectarian volance within iraq as forces from iran and syeria fight to gain a foot hold and influence in the newly forming government there.

thus the snubb to cancell dinner with president bush. a political show of loyalty to Iraq,s new partners.

in the end.......

whatwe will have accomplished in spite of our goals, is instead of having 3 middle eastpowers constantly fighting with each other that all hate israel and america, now we will have 3 united middle east powers that all hate israel and america.

wooohooo, the moral majority shaping a new world for you.

coarse, anyone who was paying attention in school could have seen this turkey coming our way and avoided it. anyone paying attention that is......

it would be better for the U.S. right now to free Saddam Hussin, and back his claim to power in iraq with U.S. military force. it would be better to have a meglomaniac dictator in that country who is more interested in overthrowing iran and syeria to become the supreme dictator there than have them all working together for a common goal, like destroying israel or killing americans.

it would have been better for this country, and israel, if we had never dsone what we did.

stupid is as stupid does. the moral majority working...hard....for you.
#5 Dec 04 2006 at 2:46 PM Rating: Default
what is wrong with you? did you have your head up your *** when they went over government in school? sure you can call bush and idiot or a ****** what the **** ever. but he was elected and then re-elected by the american people that means you that means everyone. if you dont like him ****** leave! or just ***** and moan like a little girl which is what you sound like. Now do you remember where you were on 9/11/01 cause i remember where i was now how about 9/12/01? cause i was signing up for the marines and to ship out in 3 weeks. when i was done with basic i got deployed to afghanistan, chaghcharan.. for a year before i went to iraq and being there and seeing what i have seen it was the right thing for bush to do then and it is still the right thing to do NOW. and everytime another one of you dumbass people say oh bush is stupid he suck makes the loss of all those american lives meaning less all those friends of mine that are now gone a waste but i seem to remember the afternoon of 9/11 there wasnt a single person in america that wasnt dieing to see us bomb the living **** out of afghanistan. and by the way afghanistan and iraq are linked in this terror community as the US forces were moving north through afghanistan the taliban were running through turkmenistan crossing the northern boarder of iran to get to iraq. also the weapons of mass destruction that everyone thinks were never there guess what.. they were there but when you have to ****** advertise on CNN that you are going in to a country looking for thing like that they make damn certain to ****** hide them... but you feel bad for those iraqies the ones that shoot at your brothers your friend but certainly not you cause your only big enough to stand up for something behind a ****** computer! and by the way it is SYRIA no E have you even seen a goddamn map i took a **** bigger than SYRIA once SYRIA would never oppose the US they couldnt afford to not with saudi arabia and turkey as allies of the US. But you will know soon enough as there will be a draft in the next few years and i hope to see you on the other side of the world getting shot at by little kids with Ak's crappin your pants then and let you die there cause in a situation like that everyone knows who is there because it is there duty and who is there because someone held a gun to their head... has happened before will happen again... but that is war not that you would know PUNK
#6 Dec 04 2006 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, paragraphs are your friend, k?
#7 Dec 04 2006 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Even if you had a good point, you don't.

Why bother?
#8 Dec 04 2006 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
Wait, wait, wait! You mean there's religous violence in the Middle East? No way I don't believe you!




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Edited, Dec 4th 2006 8:33pm by Brill
#9 Dec 04 2006 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
What are you guys like 12 -13, still on your moms tit? Get a ****** clue! People get killed all the time, thousands of them. The job of every US citizen is to make sure US citizens arent the ones doing the dieing... I wouldnt give a **** if 500 iraqies were killed by iraqies, cause the first time you stop a little kid to clear him of weapons and he has a american side arm that is about the time you stop caring about them. By the way if you think that all of this violance is about religion your a fool, it is about wealth and power. That is what 9/11 was about and that is what it is still about.

And there is a point people like you...well not like you people who are old enough to vote just Elected a bunch of ***** democrats which will certainly double the death toll of american soldiers... oh yeah ***** YOU DEMOCRATS!
#10 Dec 05 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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As an official spokesperson for the Republican party, I would like to remind the American public that we don't know this ******.

Thank you for your time.
#11 Dec 06 2006 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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what is wrong with you? did you have your head up your *** when they went over government in school? sure you can call bush and idiot or a ****** what the @#%^ ever. but he was elected and then re-elected by the american people that means you that means everyone. if you dont like him @#%^en leave! or just ***** and moan like a little girl which is what you sound like. Now do you remember where you were on 9/11/01 cause i remember where i was now how about 9/12/01? cause i was signing up for the marines and to ship out in 3 weeks. when i was done with basic i got deployed to afghanistan, chaghcharan.. for a year before i went to iraq and being there and seeing what i have seen it was the right thing for bush to do then and it is still the right thing to do NOW. and everytime another one of you dumbass people say oh bush is stupid he suck makes the loss of all those american lives meaning less all those friends of mine that are now gone a waste but i seem to remember the afternoon of 9/11 there wasnt a single person in america that wasnt dieing to see us bomb the living sh*t out of afghanistan. and by the way afghanistan and iraq are linked in this terror community as the US forces were moving north through afghanistan the taliban were running through turkmenistan crossing the northern boarder of iran to get to iraq. also the weapons of mass destruction that everyone thinks were never there guess what.. they were there but when you have to @#%^en advertise on CNN that you are going in to a country looking for thing like that they make damn certain to @#%^en hide them... but you feel bad for those iraqies the ones that shoot at your brothers your friend but certainly not you cause your only big enough to stand up for something behind a @#%^en computer! and by the way it is SYRIA no E have you even seen a goddamn map i took a sh*t bigger than SYRIA once SYRIA would never oppose the US they couldnt afford to not with saudi arabia and turkey as allies of the US. But you will know soon enough as there will be a draft in the next few years and i hope to see you on the other side of the world getting shot at by little kids with Ak's crappin your pants then and let you die there cause in a situation like that everyone knows who is there because it is there duty and who is there because someone held a gun to their head... has happened before will happen again... but that is war not that you would know PUNK



Oh where oh where to begin?

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Now do you remember where you were on 9/11/01 cause i remember where i was


Hmmm, I do remember where I was on 9/11. I also remember where I was on October 23,1984. Do you remember where you were then? Does that date ring a bell to you? Look it up. I'm guessing you weren't even born then.

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now how about 9/12/01? cause i was signing up for the marines and to ship out in 3 weeks.


Wow, they sure have cut back on basic training in the Marines. Used to be 13 weeks, but I guess you were such top notch Marine material that they put you through the accelerated program.

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sure you can call bush and idiot or a ****** what the @#%^ ever. but he was elected and then re-elected by the american people that means you that means everyone. if you dont like him @#%^en leave!


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And there is a point people like you...well not like you people who are old enough to vote just Elected a bunch of @#%^ democrats which will certainly double the death toll of american soldiers... oh yeah ***** YOU DEMOCRATS!


Well, if you don't like it, feel free to take your own advice and leave.


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everytime another one of you dumbass people say oh bush is stupid he suck makes the loss of all those american lives meaning less all those friends of mine that are now gone a waste but i seem to remember the afternoon of 9/11 there wasnt a single person in america that wasnt dieing to see us bomb the living sh*t out of afghanistan.


The loss of all those lives was a waste. Not calling Bush an idiot won't change that. Neither will calling him an idiot. The lives of all those friends of yours were also wasted in a totally pointless war.

Everyone wanted to see Afghanistan get the **** blown out of them because they were gave aid and support to the people that were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. You know who else gave and and support to them? Saudi Arabi and Pakistan. Our allies! Know who didn't give them aid and support? Iraq! There was no link between Iraq and Al-qaeda. Al-quaeda is an Islamic fundamentalist group, Hussein's Baathist party was a secular group. The two have diametrically opposed views. The last thing Saddam Hussein would have wanted was a well-funded, well-organized Islamic fundamentalist group in his own country.

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have you even seen a goddamn map


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as the US forces were moving north through afghanistan the taliban were running through turkmenistan crossing the northern boarder of iran to get to iraq.


Have you ever seen a map? No, really. Have you? Iraq's northern border abuts Turkmenistan, the Caspian Sea and Azerbaijan. You can't go north from Afghanistan and get to Iraq. Iraq is west of Iran. To get from Afghanistan to Iraq, you have to cross about 800 miles of Iran.

If you really are a Marine I can see why we're not making any progress in Iraq, but I seriously doubt you are. Even the Marines have standards of literacy, and from what you've posted you don't even come close to them.

Have a nice day!
#12 Dec 06 2006 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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We actually have to let Iraq build up a military first. We destroyed 99% of it between the two wars, and Iraqi women can only breed so quick.

Though we could just up and leave them defenseless save for 1 base, like in Japan :)

Besides, if we leave Iraq, we lose our strategic vantage point on Iran. Kind of funny both of the countries we've invaded directly border Iran, and warhawks have been gunning for a war there for a long while now.

If we were really there for humanitarian reasons, there are many much better candidates - East Timor, Liberia and Sierra Leone for example.

Edited, Dec 6th 2006 5:33pm by scubamage
#13 Dec 07 2006 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
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it would be better for the U.S. right now to free Saddam Hussin, and back his claim to power in iraq with U.S. military force. it would be better to have a meglomaniac dictator in that country who is more interested in overthrowing iran and syeria to become the supreme dictator there than have them all working together for a common goal, like destroying israel or killing americans.


Brilliant! FANTASTIC!

Then we can oust him again in 10 years, I like the way you think shadow. Who do we attack in the mean time though, I'll be kinda bored. Smiley: confused

#14 Dec 07 2006 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Shouldn't this thread have been titled, "See? This is why there will never AGAIN be an Iraqi Nation."?
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