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You sure know how to turn a girl off. I bet you can't keep the ladies away.

Nexa

A few things:

1. Not everyone is making public bathrooms out to be hell holes when they are used for what they are made for. However, a couple things to ponder, which you may be unaware of seeing as you generally do not venture into the female restroom. Im pretty sure that Flea could clue you in if you asked her, next time she needs to use one.
A. Unless you are in a fancy hotel or restraunt, somewhere you most likely will not be with an infant in the first place, the bathrroms generally run to about 4 stalls and one handicapped, two sinks and a mirror. There are no benches or seats to sit upon, unless you are thinking of sitting on a public toilet seat for the next 30+ minutes while your child nurses. And standing on your feet for 30+ minutes while nursing is not comfortable.
B. I still can not figure this out for the life of me, and I know for damn sure that Flea will agree with me on this, but for some reason the lines in the female restrooms get backed up terribly. And this is just when women need to use the bathrrom for bathroom purposes. It can get quite crowded at times. Now if we were to use your line of thought and all women head to the bathrooms to nurse, Im sure all women would cringe at the thought of even more crowds. Of course, this doesnt affect any males, until the other women come out bitching.

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I gave up the right to sit in a corner

And that's the crux of it. You're upset at being put out and asked to move somewhere you find distasteful. Which is fine and all, but my original point was just that being in a public john isn't going to kill the kid.[/quote]

2. When you have a child you give up a lot of things. However being allowed to nurse your child in public is not one of them. In most states there are laws that are there to protect women nursing. Those states that do not have laws specifically to protect nursing women, still do not have laws against it.

3. I notice some are continuing to harp on nursing and taking care of their child in public as being bad manners. This is absolutely ridiculous and something of your own opinion, but one that in all honesty, doesnt carry any weight. Your opinion is just that: your opinion. Just as my opinion is that I would rather be a good mother and feed my child than to let him scream for long minutes on end as I ran looking for a bathroom to "keep face" for those who do not have children or never nursed. As I personally stated, I would be discreet, but you need to face facts. The law is on my side, not yours on this issue. If people really have a hard time with womans skin being shown you have a few options. You can avert your eyes, you can walk away, you can stop going to beaches. You can turn off all the avvys here on allas with the bouncing boobs. It's one and the same. A boob is a boob is a boob. The only difference that makes people uncomfortable with this topic is that the boob is ZOMG not a sex symbol for once.


And on that note, why is it that the bewb is a sex symbol? Why do men enjoy fondling and suckling on their SOs boobs? Hmmmm, could it possibly have something subconciously to do with nursing?

Yeah, this is the part that kinda boggles me as well.

I don't care if you nurse. I really don't. Hell, I'm so oblivious most of the time, I wouldn't even notice unless it's really blatantly shoved in my face (and yes, there are women who appear to want to make a point that BY GOD THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THIS ANYWHERE THEY LIKE, but you know what? they're just jerks).

It's the arched-back, fluff-tailed militancy that astounds me. No one here has said that women nursing babies should be reviled, exiled or otherwise harassed, harmed or even particularly noticed. ONE person has said that she would not choose to confront others with her parenting choices, including nursing, and you all exploded as though she'd said nursing should be outlawed.

Whatever, dudesses. You've had kids and let them suckle. Go you.

I think, Sam, its just because it is such a sensitive subject, that women whether they mean to or not, stiffen their backs and are ready for battle because its a lose lose situation no matter what a parent chooses to do. On one side you have the country and doctors telling you that nursing is the only way to go and you are hurting your child and not being a good parent, if you do anything but. Yet at the same time, you have this underlying current that nursing is reviled in public and that as a mother you should know better than to try and feed your child anywhere BUT in the privacy of your own home. SO in essence, the mixed messages sound like in order to be a good mother and an upstanding citizen you should only nurse your baby, but only at home. Which is a description of what women have been trying to get away from for decades.


On a personal stance, I honestly do believe and strive to give respect on both sides in reality. I have no issue finding an area out of the way to take away that stress factor on both sides. But as a place here where we can discuss, argue, etc, I can be a little more expressive and vent. =) The focus of being a mother, and being a "good mother" can be very frustrating and hard to cope with, when you have the govt, doctors, and everyone else telling you what you have to do in order to fulfill those needs and yet have those same people contradict what they say at every turn. Hence the defensive stance.

The forum is slow enough today without this happy-happy meeting of the minds shit.

Nursing mothers are a blight on modern civilization and any broad who'd flash her tits around into some kid's mouth instead of using a bottle is akin to a God damned monkey and probably just doing it for sexual kicks. So there.

I totally agree. But really we're missing the crux of the issue here. Way back in kindergarten we all learned that if you don't have enough to share with the rest of the class then you shouldn't partake.

So if a nursing mother wants to whip out her cream spouts in a restaurant or shopping mall, she should make sure she has enough milk to share with everyone.

Udderly ridiculous.

When you were mooving on up?

I know you wouldn't have it any other whey.

It's good to see such bosom buddies having fun.

Don't count on me to carp about Amercu'hn bathrooms, kiddo. I was raised in a developing nation. Your gringo toilets don't scare me.

Okay, I can agree with you. In my opinion, being valid to me and weighty with the only audience that matters, I am the bestest mother ever, better than any other mother that is or will be, affected not at all by the fact that I've never had a kid. I'm just that good. Don't think so? You can disagree, but frankly, if you do then it's a dumb opinion that I happen not to think highly of, and I think you have it because you're hung up on how good a mom I am.

Dude, it's because I'm such a good mom they are jealous. It's okay, I understand. Moms do that.

Edited, Nov 22nd 2006 1:32pm by Atomicflea

You try to pass off another crappy knock knock joke as a pun and you're going to need a nurse.