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#27 Nov 21 2006 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I think they are. Satiric newscasts leaning in one political direction are an extremely powerful tool.


They proved that two weeks ago on Colbert Report when one of his guests on "Know Your District" won because they beat the incumbent because the incumbent wouldn't do the show.

I watch TDS and Colbert every night and am VERY educated, both politically and otherwise. I like Jon Stewart's style of humor. He can pull political humor off without looking smarmy and I like that. And Colbert is so out there and switches affiliations midshow to suit the guest or theme. Granted he is more or less siding with democrats by landblasting republicans over and over, but the show will have to change as the dems come into power and become embroiled in their own scandals.

I personally would love to see Fox try to parody news, they have been doing it so long they should be able to make pure comedic gold.
#28 Nov 21 2006 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
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I think they are. Satiric newscasts leaning in one political direction are an extremely powerful tool.


They proved that two weeks ago on Colbert Report when one of his guests on "Know Your District" won because they beat the incumbent because the incumbent wouldn't do the show.


I'm not denying that they can be a poweful tool, but I'd like to see the documentation that supports your assertion that the main reason he lost was that he didn't do the show.

Senjiow wrote:
I watch TDS and Colbert every night and am VERY educated
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landblasting republicans over and over


/snicker

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pure comedic gold.


Indeed.

#29 Nov 21 2006 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Senjiow wrote:
They proved that two weeks ago on Colbert Report when one of his guests on "Know Your District" won because they beat the incumbent because the incumbent wouldn't do the show.
Yeah, because it wouldn't be like Stephan Colbert at all to make it look as though his show was the pivotal point in the election. Smiley: dubious
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#30 Nov 21 2006 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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#31 Nov 21 2006 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh no! Bill O'Reilly found our thread and rated it down! Rate-Ups 4 j00 all!



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#32 Nov 21 2006 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Flea brought up an important point:

Does the fact that the article included Colbert mean that the administration has finally caught on that he's not a real conservative pundit and will stop inviting him to speak at ther functions? Smiley: laugh


Best speech ever. Thanks for reminding me to download it later on.

It took giant steel balls to make that speech.
#33 Nov 21 2006 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Flea brought up an important point:

Does the fact that the article included Colbert mean that the administration has finally caught on that he's not a real conservative pundit and will stop inviting him to speak at ther functions? Smiley: laugh


Best speech ever. Thanks for reminding me to download it later on.

It took giant steel balls to make that speech.


Doesn't he have a large pair of brass balls on his shelves on the set?
#34 Nov 21 2006 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
ZOMG someone rated Jophiel down! Now he's only "good" and not "excellent"!

Edit: dammit I totally missed my 666th post...

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#35 Nov 21 2006 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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Why hasn't gbaji been complaining that PBS often has Mark Russell on after The News Hour.

Political Humor knows no boundary's. I was raised on watching the Smothers Brothers until CBS pulled the plug on them, twice. Nixon even appeard on Laugh In, as at least he could take a joke, unlike some Pubbies.
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#36 Nov 21 2006 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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See my original point Joph? You're basically saying it's perfectly ok to have politics on a comedy network, but it's not ok to have comedy on a political network?

Why not?


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#37 Nov 21 2006 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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a political network?


i thought it was supposed to be a NEWS network.

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#38 Nov 21 2006 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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ElneClare wrote:
Why hasn't gbaji been complaining that PBS often has Mark Russell on after The News Hour.

Political Humor knows no boundary's. I was raised on watching the Smothers Brothers until CBS pulled the plug on them, twice. Nixon even appeard on Laugh In, as at least he could take a joke, unlike some Pubbies.


Thanks for the "Back in the 20's" recap. And Nixon was impeached. Funny huh?

I look at it more as a "more viewers" than a "must combat daily show". And when has any news agency not wanted more viewers?
#39 Nov 21 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
ElneClare wrote:
Why hasn't gbaji been complaining that PBS often has Mark Russell on after The News Hour.

Political Humor knows no boundary's. I was raised on watching the Smothers Brothers until CBS pulled the plug on them, twice. Nixon even appeard on Laugh In, as at least he could take a joke, unlike some Pubbies.


Thanks for the "Back in the 20's" recap. And Nixon was impeached. Funny huh?

I look at it more as a "more viewers" than a "must combat daily show". And when has any news agency not wanted more viewers?


Nixon stepped down before they had a chance to vote on the Impeachment. I had to retire my Impeach Nixon pin. Made me cry too.

I may some days walk like I'm in my 80's, but I'm still far from old, kiddo Smiley: rolleyes
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#40 Nov 21 2006 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Take the pic down then. It's a dead give away.

That or a shot of the jugs. Jugs don't lie.
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You just wish you were able to have sex with a mature Babe, who knows alot of tricks you wife is still years from knowing about. Plus, I no longer am too tire because the baby had me up alll night.

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#42 Nov 21 2006 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe I can get kid, to take pic of how they want to pop out of my new bodice.


The who in the what now??
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#43 Feb 15 2007 at 3:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thread bump as the show soon descends upon us.

Gaze upon this segment and... umm.. laugh, I guess. I chuckled at the 99.9% joke (which might have been funny with decent delivery) but... well, you can watch it.

And the laugh track is beyond obnoxious.
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#44 Feb 15 2007 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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A little much on the fake ad, but I thought the jokes were pretty good.

Especially the 18 month journey one.
#45 Feb 15 2007 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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Meh, the Daily Show points out hypocrisy and gaffs and makes fun of them. The very first joke tries to connect Dems and Obama to hard core drugs and then goes on and tries to connect him to terrorism. The 18 month bit was relevant but the rest just seemed a little mean spirited.
#46 Feb 15 2007 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
The male anchor actually reminds me a bit of Steven Colbert (in that he's not very funny).

Also, here's the opening segment of the pilot.
#47 Feb 15 2007 at 7:00 PM Rating: Default
Since when has politics not been mean spirited satire? It's one thing to make jokes. It's entirely another to promote violence as the central tenet of the liberal left-wing philosophy. Liberalism makes the Satanic Verses look like a kiddie cartoon. These people enact violent evil daily. These leftist criminals have Nazified the political vocabulary. "Universal Health Care" is cleansed of the entailed slavery of doctors, the restriction of peaceful adults to voluntarily trade services, the hidden rationed care in socialist countries the world over, the politically enforced preferential treatment of favored classes to the detriment of others (don't see politicians on wait lists do you?). Leftists are blatant evil criminals. And so too are the conservatives far too embrasive of evil criminal behavior.

And leftists are so stupid and blind to their criminal behavior that it's hilarious when they cry about loss of freedom and privacy when the Patriot Act authorizes checking personal library records yet these leftists force the turning over of far more invasive information every time you apply for a job. And they rob you every pay check. (Haven't heard jack **** about that on this site since I pointed it out have yas?) And they advocate the teaching and mob rallying activity of robbing your neighbor. There's so much hypocricy all around it's no surprise to me that satire of politics is on the upswing. What's to discuss "seriously" about the actions and philosophies of the political classes? They're crooks. They're liars. They're megalomaniacs.

We should take leftwing crooks seriously? We should take right wing war mongerers seriously?

All the networks show clips of the daily show. All the networks show clips of Jay Leno, David Letterman, and Jimmy Kimmel. All the networks showed Bill Clinton on ******* Hall. All the networks showed Joe Biden on the Daily Show. As "venerable" a show as This Week with George Stephanopolous has a segment devoted to the best of political comedy. The McGlaughlin Group guests are always scoring wit. Presidential Candidates make the rounds to these comedy shows. They're roasted at banquets.

I don't see what the hoopla is about. But ever since the advent of FoxNews, gone are the old days of 3 biased networks showcasing Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, and uh whoever. Competition is good. It's a free market in news and a free market in comedy. With the advent of free information on the internet it's much easier to expose all actions, whether good or bad, whether initiated from the "right" or initiated from the "left".

John Stewart is talented. He pwns Dennis Miller. Fox has a long hard journey to beat the Daily Show. Who cares if for one hour Fox News puts on some comedy while during that same hour CNN has some leftist shrill and the BBC has some pretend unbiased reporter? The only reason it's a big deal is because both the traditional left and the traditional right want to control what you watch, want to slant truth and fact. At least Fox News is upfront with their slants. When leftists are up front with their slants on say Air America, nobody listens.
#48 Feb 15 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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MonxDoT wrote:
Who cares if for one hour Fox News puts on some comedy while during that same hour CNN has some leftist shrill and the BBC has some pretend unbiased reporter?
Jophiel wrote:
I don't really care if FOX has a comedy program except to mock them for tacitly admitting that a couple comedians are out-performing the FOX pundits by mocking the government.
Nice rant though.
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#49 Feb 15 2007 at 7:20 PM Rating: Default
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TDS has/does make fun of democrats/liberals. This 'comedy show' however seems to only be about poking fun at democrats.

gba wrote:
No. More that Fox is a News channel. They also cover a lot of political issues. The trend we've seen recently is that an alarming number of people are forming their political views, not based on actual political debate between people knowledgeable on the subjects (like they actually show on Fox news), but on comedy skits performed on shows like TDS by comedians with minimal understanding of the issues they're parodying.


Ive seen fox news 'debates' as you call them, and they are biased. It doesnt matter how knowledgeable the speakers are, when you reduce the level of discourse to name calling, finger pointing and sound bytes, it turns to sh*t.

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What exactly is "wrongly influenced"? Is it only when someone is presented a Conservative viewpoint? Because apparently the overwhelmingly Liberal slant of TDS doesn't bother you, but the assuption that a Fox version might be Conservatively slanted does. Isn't that a huge bias on your own parts?


Personally, I think putting a biased slant on a comedy show that is advertised as a comedy show is much better than putting a biased slant on a news network, then labeling such network as 'fair and balanced'.

Additionally,for the regular cable viewer, TDS only airs 2x a day (3x max). Even people that watch TDS religiously cannot feed off its slant all day. On the other hand, the fox news channel is on 24/7.

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We can debate the rightness or wrongness of this all day long. But the fact is that many people have short attention spans and gather more "information" about an issue via short video clips and comedy skits then they do by wacthing or listening to people actually discussing the issues in any sort of intelligent fashion.


I agree. But, Fox news and every network news channel is guilty of this. Even on these 24/7 news channels, you see little in-depth coverage, and barely any mention of the history of any given subject.

gba wrote:
Heck. Watch Bill Maher's show sometime. It's telling what parts of the show get the most reaction. It's not the rare intelligent comment. It's always the clever one-liners.

And that style of presentation is almost exclusively liberaly biased. So yeah. If Fox wants to see if they can do something similar to tip the scales back a bit, what's wrong with that?


Both democrats and Republicans use one-liners to further their campaigns/goals. They both opt for the best sound bites. How the *** can that or any style of presentation be 'liberally biased'. Because liberals make better sound bytes? If you dont like this style of presentation, say so, don't just blame the d's because they are 'winning'.


Jop wrote:
Does the fact that the article included Colbert mean that the administration has finally caught on that he's not a real conservative pundit and will stop inviting him to speak at ther functions?


Sarcastic humor escapes an amazing number of people. amazing.


MonX wrote:
At least Fox News is upfront with their slants.


No, they aren't. The few FN watchers I spoke to did not see any 'conservative' bias in FN. This show is; but until FN's slogan is 'your conservative news channel', they are not. I watch TDS and i see a 'liberal slant' to it.

As far as the '1/2 hour news hour', i really dont care. Its just another slanted show giving the public more jokes and less substance.

Edited, Feb 18th 2007 6:04pm by TWA
#50 Feb 15 2007 at 7:23 PM Rating: Default
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I don't really care if FOX has a comedy program except to mock them for tacitly admitting that a couple comedians are out-performing the FOX pundits by mocking the government.


I haven't seen or heard of the FOX pundits being out-performed. Like I said, FOX and all the other networks already included plenty of comedy clips from the likes of the Daily Show. It's classic vertical integration. Why pay others when you can possibly get paid the advertising dollars yourself for creating comedy material? There's no "tacit admission" of anything except a program expansion/change. Comedy has long been a part of the political process. Comedic political episodes have long been covered by the news, by columnists, by pundits, etc.

After Joe Biden called Obama "clean" and "articulate", where did he go to explain and humble himself? The Daily Show.
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I haven't seen or heard of the FOX pundits being out-performed.
That's too bad. It's been pretty amusing.

Unlike what I've seen so far from the Half Hour News Hour.
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