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#27 Nov 20 2006 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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An acquaintance of mine explained to me that she prefers wearing a burqa because she's uncomfortable being stared at by men, and feels much more at ease with it than without it. I can understand that. It isn't how I was raised, but it does make sense to me.


I'll be completely honest here, but the problem lies with that woman. If she is only comfortable with covering herself up from top to toe because she doesn't want to be stared at by men, then there is something truly wrong.

Granted, banning burqa's isn't going to solve her problem at all, perhaps it's too late for that, but perhaps we should try and do something to prevent other women to get to that state?

The basic idea of a burqa is despicable, whether or not that alone justifies a ban is something else.

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don't pick on people just because they make it implausible to ignore your xenophobia and unablity to integrate with Humanity.


Wearing a burqa makes it pretty much impossible to integrate to begin with. Should we change our society to make it possible or should we change the burqa?

#28 Nov 20 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'll be completely honest here, but the problem lies with that woman. If she is only comfortable with covering herself up from top to toe because she doesn't want to be stared at by men, then there is something truly wrong.

Granted, banning burqa's isn't going to solve her problem at all, perhaps it's too late for that, but perhaps we should try and do something to prevent other women to get to that state?


You're a guy, I take it.

There are worse things than being left alone by random construction workers, I assure you.
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#29 Nov 20 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be completely honest here, but the problem lies with that woman. If she is only comfortable with covering herself up from top to toe because she doesn't want to be stared at by men, then there is something truly wrong.

Women exist to be stared at by men! It's their duty. And it's men's duty to control what they do or don't wear. Now, out with the bikinis, bitches.


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#30 Nov 20 2006 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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You're a guy, I take it.

There are worse things than being left alone by random construction workers, I assure you.


Ofcourse there are worse things, and I do realise that as a guy, I don't tend to know all of what happens.

Nevertheless, the burqa as a symbol is despicable enough not to tolerate it.

[quote]Women exist to be stared at by men! It's their duty. And it's men's duty to control what they do or don't wear. Now, out with the bikinis, ****************

Well, that would depend. It was pretty awful weather today, I'ld allow a see through raincoat too, but just for now.

And again, everyone is free to wear what they want, within the laws of decency and in lots of places also not a burqa. Which isn't a problem imo.
#31 Nov 20 2006 at 4:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, hang on. You can't have it both ways.

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Nevertheless, the burqa as a symbol is despicable enough not to tolerate it.


Not even if a woman chooses to wear it? It's only a symbol to us, you know, and only recently.

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And again, everyone is free to wear what they want, within the laws of decency


Frankly, you don't get much more "decent", in terms of modesty, than a burqa.

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#32 Nov 21 2006 at 2:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Wearing a burqa makes it pretty much impossible to integrate to begin with. Should we change our society to make it possible or should we change the burqa?


This is stupid. In our societies, we don't force people to smile at each other in the street, ot to wear a uniform when they go to the shop. People don't have to integrate as long as they work, pay their taxes, and follow the law. As long as they do that, they can wear a burka, or a fake beard, or a clown costume, who cares?

I understand that for many people the idea seems strange. I understand the "women being forced to wear one" argument.

But if the women decides to wear it, even if she makes that choice for cultural reasons that seem alien to us, then as long as it doesn't pose a threat to soiciety, I can't see how it concers any of us. So you can't see her face? So what? They are still human, can talk, can communicate, and if they can't do any of these, the problem is more profound than the burka.

Once again, it's treating the symptoms of a disease, instead of the causes.

The day I start wearing a clown costume and a fake beard when I walk down the street, I won't be expecting the government to pass laws to ban people clown costumes and fake beards. And if they do, then I will feel victimised.

Though I will be a happy Chuck-Norris-clown-look-alike victimised, which is better than an angry Muslim victimised, granted.

Edited, Today 2:31am by RedPhoenixxxxxx
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