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#1 Nov 18 2006 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
Has anyone else seen this movie? Being the 21st Bond film, I thought it was great. How do you all think it stacks up? I did think it would end about 5 times during the movie though, it went on for a good 2 and a half hours. Brilliant ending, too.
#2 Nov 18 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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I haven't seen it but I heard that Craig sucks as Bond.

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#3 Nov 18 2006 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
Everyone's saying that. I thought he was pretty good though I haven't seen many Bond films.
#4 Nov 18 2006 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent

Haven't seen it either, but plan too once on DVD. He looks like a great Bond. But the best? Not possible to top Sean. He is the original. Trailers are spine tingeling.

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#5 Nov 18 2006 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
Talking to the people I saw it with, they all seemed to hate it. Though some of them are idiots so, eh.
#6 Nov 20 2006 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Craig's the first Bond in a long time who actually reminds me of Connery. Same feel to the way he plays the character. Kind of a lanky casualness to the role that's hard to define, but very noticable. Every Bond Since Moore has tried to be too snippy and "british".

Dunno. I thought he makes a good Bond.
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#7 Nov 22 2006 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
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I just watched it yesterday. I've seen every Bond film made, and I can say that this one was probably the best one in a long time. I liked Pierce Brosnan, but he seemed a little too proper and gentlemanly. This new fella brings a roughness back to the role, I thought he pulled it off well. I also was a big fan of them leaving out all the fancy gadgets and special effects. They had some, but they didn't overdue it like they had in more recent films.

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There were really only 2 in this one, and I didn't recognize either.
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#8 Nov 23 2006 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
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While Craig might bring back some roughness, I think they overdid it. He looks more like a Green Beret than a British spy, to be honest.

The army haircut and blond style doesn't go well with the character James Bond. A spy, yes, but also a gentleman and playboy as well.

Comparison:

Sean Connery
Roger Moore
George Lazenby
Timothy Dalton
Pierce Brosnan

Daniel Craig

He doesn't look like a Bond. He doesn't have that slick playboy look the other Bonds had. Perhaps he's a great actor, but you need the looks as well. He looks more like the super villain than Bond.

Perhaps if they let him grow his hair and color it a dark brown.
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#9 Nov 23 2006 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
#9 when comedy central laughs at Bond wearing a Tux instead of dirty time of the month sweats, you got advertised.
#10 Nov 26 2006 at 2:36 AM Rating: Good
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Watched it yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Craig gave Bond new facets - 2 in particular; brutality and vulnerability. Much more 3 dimensional character than we've seen before. Connery he ain't, but I was impressed.

The main reason I liked it was it was the best screenplay since Thunderball. Apart from a few witticisms and throwaway gags, there was none of the silliness that marred the last dozen or so films. Decent plot, slightly far-fetched but no more than the original books, and little reliance on gadgets and CGI.

The fight scenes were more violent and raw than in any Bond movie yet and they kept the pace going well.

Well worth seeing.
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#11 Nov 26 2006 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I saw a "Behind the Scene" show about it last night.

Casino Royale was actually Ian Fleming's first James Bond book. So this is taking place before Dr. No and all those old movies.

One thing that struck me though. If this is the first movie and Judi Dench already plays M, how come M is played by Bernard Lee in the following movies and then suddenly is replaced by Judi again?

Doesn't make sense, because I remember when Judi Dench took over the role of M in Goldeneye, wasn't it? And James acted like he had never seen her before and wasn't very pleased with having a female boss.

Why did he act like that if he had already worked for her before?

Plot hole?
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#13 Nov 26 2006 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I really hope this one is good. The past few have been terrible. It makes me not want to see this one. I'll wait for some more reviews before seeing it or I'll just try and download it.
#14 Nov 26 2006 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Doesn't make sense, because I remember when Judi Dench took over the role of M in Goldeneye, wasn't it? And James acted like he had never seen her before and wasn't very pleased with having a female boss.

Why did he act like that if he had already worked for her before?


Maybe they just liked Judi Dench a lot?
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#15 Nov 27 2006 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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I saw a "Behind the Scene" show about it last night.

Casino Royale was actually Ian Fleming's first James Bond book. So this is taking place before Dr. No and all those old movies.

One thing that struck me though. If this is the first movie and Judi Dench already plays M, how come M is played by Bernard Lee in the following movies and then suddenly is replaced by Judi again?

Doesn't make sense, because I remember when Judi Dench took over the role of M in Goldeneye, wasn't it? And James acted like he had never seen her before and wasn't very pleased with having a female boss.

Why did he act like that if he had already worked for her before?

Plot hole?


Yeah, I think that's one you just have to accept or at least overlook. I think I remember hearing that she had signed to do a certain number of films and when Brosnan quit she was already locked in, but I'm not sure if it was true. I think they figured since M is a supporting character, they'd get away with it.

It will be interesting to see where they take things from here.
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#16 Nov 27 2006 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
Any movie that gets it's *** handed to them by penguins, I'll wait for DVD.






Stupid blond Bond
#17 Nov 27 2006 at 7:38 AM Rating: Good
Mazra the Meaningless wrote:
I saw a "Behind the Scene" show about it last night.

Casino Royale was actually Ian Fleming's first James Bond book. So this is taking place before Dr. No and all those old movies.

One thing that struck me though. If this is the first movie and Judi Dench already plays M, how come M is played by Bernard Lee in the following movies and then suddenly is replaced by Judi again?

Doesn't make sense, because I remember when Judi Dench took over the role of M in Goldeneye, wasn't it? And James acted like he had never seen her before and wasn't very pleased with having a female boss.

Why did he act like that if he had already worked for her before?

Plot hole?


With this new movie, they retconned the series quite abit. In this film, Judi Dench is the only 'M', Bond never used his 'beloved' .25 Beretta that he was forced to give up at the very beginning of Dr. No (instead using a Walther P99), the fact that he is using cell phones with text messaging, the reference by 'M' to 9/11 (when she mentioned that Le Chiffre profited after the airplane atttacks), and definately by the fact that Felix Leiter was portrayed by a black actor (Jeffrey Wright) despite having been white in all the other 'offical' Bond films.

Honestly, I doubt that the producers could have done Casino Royale differently, if they wanted to use this film as a 'roots' film for Bond. The first Bond film was Dr. No, which came out in 1962, and I honestly don't see how they could have made this film connect to a modern day Bond audience if they therefore set Casino Royale during the 1950s.

As such, I think that while there are several plot holes in the film, it's more 'deliberate' than not on the part of the producers.
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#18 Nov 27 2006 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Much better than the last 3-4 pieces of sh*t that were turned out with 007 in them.

Edited, Nov 27th 2006 8:10am by NephthysWanderer
#19 Nov 27 2006 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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Casino Royale is hands down the best Bond film in years, if not the best period. While Connery is the template by which other Bonds are cut and measured, Craig, for my money surpasses even him for being the British agent the Ian Fleming wrote about.

Let's face it: Bond films were becoming ridiculous for the techi-ness of the gadgets, wherein all laws of time and space were being suspended by the amazing Q and his fantastic shop. Casino Royale makes Bond human again in every sense of the word. He bleeds, he makes mistakes, he shows emotions beyond smarminess, and yet displays an arrogance that you expect a James Bond to wear like a well tailored suit.

The stunts were well done, not over done ala Pierce Brosnan and the Incredible Frozen World that he did with Halle Berry. He bedded the women without being foppish and creepy ala Roger Moore. Craig wasn't the limp wristed **** that Dalton was, and not throwing trite quips like Connery.

Last, but not least, the two and a half hour length of the film allowed for the plot to develop, rather than moving directly into the point in the story where lasers are about to cut Bonds legs off just as he drops into the shark infested tank.

If you didn't like this Bond you prolly are the type that went out and bought Dude, Where's My Car? after seeing it ten times in the theater. Yeah, you're that gay.

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#20 Nov 27 2006 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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I don't plan on seeing it. That Bond guy talks all funny and he fights on behalf of an opressive monarchy.
#21 Nov 27 2006 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
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On a positive note, however, he does have all his his teeth. And they are pearly white to boot, FleaJo1.

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#22 Nov 27 2006 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:
On a positive note, however, he does have all his his teeth. And they are pearly white to boot, FleaJo1.
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Edited, Nov 27th 2006 12:55pm by Nobby
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#23 Nov 27 2006 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Heheh.

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#24 Nov 27 2006 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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With this new movie, they retconned the series quite abit


Oh ew, they retconned Bond???

Blasphemy!
#25 Nov 27 2006 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps it's like Batman Begins. While I found the movie quite good (Christian Bale fan), it didn't have that Tim Burton atmosphere the old Batman movies had.

Perhaps Casino Royale is the same. A new type of Bond movie.

I'm going to go watch it, but Daniel Craig still looks like a Polish/Russian villain and not a British spy/gentleman.

Misspelled 'charm' so I might as well replace it with 'atmosphere'.

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 1:25am by Mazra
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#26 Nov 27 2006 at 8:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I thought it was a great movie. It certainly gave a lot of insight into Bond's character and why he is the way he is.

Did anyone else have trouble watching the opening fight scene? I don't deal well with heights. Oi!
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