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#1 Nov 16 2006 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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The background:

Mr. Ambrya and I have two checking accounts, one which he had before we started dating/got married (I've since been added to that account once we got married) the other we got as a joint account back when when first moved in together but hadn't married yet.

The first account we use for "official" expenses, paying bills, property taxes, gas, groceries, etc, and the second account we occasionally drop some extra cash into for our fun money. It pays for dinners out, the occasional new book or CD or gizmo, or whatnot. It's our way of making sure we don't eat dinner out using money that needs to be paying the mortgage, and also since the first account is at a credit union with very limited locations and ATMS and the second is at a larger chain bank, it gives us the option of convenient access when we're out and about.

With me so far?


The situation:

Yesterday, Mr. Ambrya stops by the the bank where we hold the second account to deposit some funds, and discovers that the balance is about $1500 higher than either of us expects it to be. He calls me and asks if I deposited money into it, and I hadn't, so he asks me to investigate it today, which I did.

About 2 weeks ago (Oct 31) someone deposited a $1500 check into the account at a branch in Bellevue WA, which is about 3 hours north of here, near Seattle. Neither of us have been in the Seattle area since mid-August, when we went up for an overnighter in Redmond as Mr. Ambrya had a job interview at the giant software company generally considered to be in league with Satan. We passed through Bellevue on the interstate on the way to Redmond, but we didn't stop, and certainly never hit a bank there.

The check was a personal check made out to Mr. Ambrya, but from a person we don't know. I saw the scanned copy of the thing--it very clearly has Mr. Ambrya's name on it, but neither of us has a clue who the person who wrote it is. So as far as we can figure, these are the possible theories:

Theory 1) There's someone else with Mr. Ambrya's name who also has an account at the bank chain we use, and the check in question was supposed to go into THAT account, thus this is all a mistake. Doesn't make sense though, that in two weeks, the person who was supposed to receive those funds has not yet noticed that he hasn't, in fact, received them and raised a fuss over it.

Theory 2) Someone is using our account to pull a scam of some sort. Perhaps someone got ahold of Mr. Ambrya's debit card (He doesn't use it often) or acquired a debit card to the account somehow, and is using our account to deposit and withdraw ill-gotten funds. Problem with that theory, though, is why would they leave the money sitting in the account for over 2 weeks?

Theory 3) We have a mysterious benefactor. Not as absurd as it sounds, I don't think--follow my reasoning. When people (for instance, Mr. Ambrya's parents) attempt to give us gifts of money, we generally protest and attempt to refuse and the situation usually devolves into them insisting upon it, and us refusing, until finally we give in because to protest any more would be ungracious. If the people in question wanted to give the expected parents of their first grandchild a very large, generous gift without a replay of that scene times 50, it probably wouldn't be all that difficult to "filter" the funds through a friend or distant relative with whom we're not familiar. Possible downfalls of that scenario are that 1) not sure anyone outside the two of us knows about the second account, 2) not sure any of our relations who would consider making a gift of that size are actually that crafty or clever, and 3) theory is possibly just a way to rationalize the greedy fact that I REALLY want us to be able to keep the money.


So at this point, I'm not sure what to do. The bank doesn't seem to think there's a problem--the check was obviously made out to Mr. Ambrya, therefore it's obviously in the right account. If someone is trying to run a scam using our account, I want to shut them down and make sure they don't succeed. However, if we withdraw the funds so that whoever it is can't get them when they come back for them we may end up getting hit with a bunch of overcharge fees and whatnot (or having to pay the amount back should the bank discover an error was, in fact, made.) We could close the account completely, but then the same problem of owing the money back in the case of an error still exists, plus, should the "mysterious benefactor" ever attempt another deposit, they won't be able to do so.

Any suggestions on how to handle this?

#2 Nov 16 2006 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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Anyway for you to get a printout or copy of the check in question?
#3 Nov 16 2006 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Anyway for you to get a printout or copy of the check in question?


They couldn't print it out at the branch I visited today. Not sure if that's because they couldn't physically print it, or because it has what could be considered sensitive information on it (checking account/routing number for someone else's checking account) on it which they aren't allowed to let us have.

The one other thing I forgot to mention is that the last name on the check was just slightly mispelled. Ours has one L in the middle, and the name on the check was spelled the same, but with LL instead of just the single L (for instance--this is not our name--but "Scholler," where it should have been spelled "Scholer") I didn't think much of it, because our name is frequently misspelled that exact way.







Edited, Nov 16th 2006 at 4:34pm PST by Ambrya
#4 Nov 16 2006 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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OK, so ask them to trace the routing number and checking account and see if there have been any fraud alerts put on that account.
#5 Nov 16 2006 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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4. Mr. Ambrya's a high class gay escort.

Think about it.

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#6 Nov 16 2006 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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4. Mr. Ambrya's a high class gay escort.

Think about it.



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#7 Nov 16 2006 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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simple....

1.withdraw everything
2.close account
3.open bank account with different bank/credit union
4.deposit chedder
5.profit

Edited, Nov 16th 2006 at 7:49pm PST by Rejekted
#8 Nov 16 2006 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Rejekted the Irrelevant wrote:
simple....

1.withdraw everything
2.close account
3.open bank account with different bank/credit union
4.deposit chedder
5.profit

Edited, Nov 16th 2006 at 7:49pm PST by Rejekted


Don't think the thought hasn't crossed my mind, but I'm just too damned honest for my own good. In fact, the chick on the phone first said I should consider myself "lucky" that some mystery person deposited $1500 into our account, and then when I replied that I wouldn't consider myself "lucky" if someone came after us expecting us to pay back money that wasn't rightfully ours, she lauded my honesty for trying to track it down.

Spoke with the bank again. They have started a couple traces both on the origin of the check in question, and to investigate the possibility that it went into the wrong account. I have to call tomorrow to talk to their fraud department about the possibility that it's someone trying to run a scam.

In the meantime, I ascertained that if this is a bank error (i.e. someone with the same name as Mr. Ambrya--possibly with two Ls in the last name instead of just one--attempted to deposit the money in his account and the bank mistakenly put it on our account instead) then we will not be held liable for the funds, should we decide to withdraw them before the bank discovers its error. Now that we've made a good-faith effort to verify the funds are where they should be, we're in the clear and the bank's insurance will cover the $1500 should they have to reimburse whoever the money was actually supposed to go to.

So it's looking more and more like we've had a nice little unexpected windfall. Nursery furniture FTW!!!



Edited, Nov 16th 2006 at 8:22pm PST by Ambrya
#9 Nov 16 2006 at 10:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like a good plan all around. You've done some CYA work. The bank said "nope, it's yours!", so take it and run.

I deposit money into my parents' chequing account occasionally to repay money I've borrowed. It's not actually that easy to deposit money into someone elses account, at least in Canada. Even though my parents and I have the same last name and I can verify their address, they still give me looks the odd time.
#10 Nov 16 2006 at 11:02 PM Rating: Good
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I had something similiar happen to me once. Two thousand in change appeared in my account for no known reason and then disapeared two days later. I noticed it come and gone when I was checking out my account online a day after it dissapeared. I was worried someone had access to my account so I went in to the bank and asked what was up. After the clerk couldn't figure it out she tracked the manager down and asked him to look at it. He stood at her computer for a good ten minutes looking at my account (I assume) and then, rather than give me an explanation looked at me as if I was some shady character and said, "Just be glad you didn't take that money out, you would have been liable for it." The jack ***, all that happened was someone at the bank deposited someone's money in my account by mistake and when that person made a big deal out of his missing money they moved it to his account.
#11 Nov 17 2006 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Reminds me of the story about that guy that got like a 100,000 dollars accidently deposited into his account. Instead of reporting the error he went on a huge *** spending spree. The bank and official weren't too happy with him.
#12 Nov 17 2006 at 5:22 AM Rating: Good
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/nod

I got an extra couple hundred once, years ago. I immediately withdrew it and went on a weekened bender. Turns out it was a mistake and they took the money back, essentially putting me in the hole, which caused me to miss a car payment until my next paycheck came around.

Sounds like you covered your bases. I'd still recommend maybe not touching it for at least a month just to make sure however. Your weekend trip to Vegas can wait at least that long.
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#13 Nov 17 2006 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
your theory one is probably correct. tell the bank you dont believe it is yours and ask them to hold it in escrow for you so you dont spend it and end up in trouble. after a period of time, a few months, the money is yours.

theory two. your husband is lieing to you.
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Reminds me of the story about that guy that got like a 100,000 dollars accidently deposited into his account. Instead of reporting the error he went on a huge *** spending spree. The bank and official weren't too happy with him.
In college I was once suprised to find out that my charge card had a -$85,000 balance. About two weeks later I got another letter saying that someone's payment had been applied to my card on accident.

Then I was just suprised that someone had an $85,000 credit card payment. Or even a card with an $85,000 limit for that matter. Corporate account maybe, I guess.
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#15 Nov 17 2006 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't spend it, especially if I found out it was a mistake. Would insurance even cover you now that you've publicly stated that the money isn't yours?
#16 Nov 17 2006 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, I wish someone would randomly give me some free money! Congratz on that! And it's good you're doing some investigative work, just so you don't have to worry about the bank comming after you later.
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#18 Nov 17 2006 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
Ok here's the best thing to do:

1) close the current account.
2) deposit the $1500 into a savings account at the same bank
3) use the remaining balance from the old checking account to open a new one

The advantages there are:
1) you have protected yourself is some sort of fraund is going on with the old checking account
2) you have the $1500 in case the bank does determine it was deposited to your account in error and its easy to give it back since it is still in the same bank
3) you will gain interest on the unexpected money
#19 Nov 17 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Under washington state law, the bank error is the fiscal responsability of the bank. They can't even ask for the money back if it was their mistake. If it was destined for some other account, and they made an error, they have to pay for it. So its your money one way or the other now.
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