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I want harder restrictions. I think once you've been on it for 2 years, thats it. No more. You had your chance. Same with the people who abuse workmans comp. It pisses me off to no end. I want reform. I want to know that my dollar is going to those who are going to help themselves. If you aren't going to help yourself, I don't want to help you.
Your dollar isn't going ANYWHERE. You're TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE SYSTEM, not adding to it.
Why is this so mind numbingly hard for people to understand? Until the average persons taxes reach about $60k a year at present, they are not paying into anything. They are slightly offsetting the size of the government expenditure to provide them with services.
You are taking the 'hand outs' at present unless you're paying a lot more taxes than I assume you are.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
What we need is a nice authoratarian, reactionary, even Facist regime to take over the coutry for a few years to cleanse and reeducate. That would fix everything.
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
What we need is a nice authoratarian, reactionary, even Facist regime to take over the coutry for a few years to cleanse and reeducate. That would fix everything.
You're absolutly right.
Hilary for prez!
I keed, I keed.
HazelEyedDragn wrote:
If they can be educated and become productive members of society, then I have no problem with helping them. But we have to help them help themselves too. There are plenty of jobs at McD's and taco bell and the like, there is no reason, other than pure laziness, to be homeless. As long as they are trying, and want to improve their situation, then I don't mind them getting assistance. It's the ones that just want to live off other peoples hard work that annoy me.
Right, because you can work at McDonalds with no benefits and raise a couple kids and pay rent and daycare while you're at work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Someone working in a minimum wage job can't even pay for the daycare while they're in work.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Heh. This is a funny topic considering over 50% of the population have jobs that keep them J.O.B. (Just Over Broke). The definition of poor is what I think a lot of people have an issue in understanding. The gubberment in Canada has tried devising ways to identify people who abuse the system to make it less of a burden on we taxpayers. The real question that should be asked is, as a taxpayer, would you prefer not to have that social safety net in case something out of your control goes bad and you need a bit of help so you don't lose everything, or would you prefer to crash and burn if it meant not paying for the service at all?
It's easy for someone who doesn't live paycheque to paycheque to answer that question, but what about the vast population who does?
It's easy for someone who doesn't live paycheque to paycheque to answer that question, but what about the vast population who does?
Nexa wrote:
HazelEyedDragn wrote:
If they can be educated and become productive members of society, then I have no problem with helping them. But we have to help them help themselves too. There are plenty of jobs at McD's and taco bell and the like, there is no reason, other than pure laziness, to be homeless. As long as they are trying, and want to improve their situation, then I don't mind them getting assistance. It's the ones that just want to live off other peoples hard work that annoy me.
Right, because you can work at McDonalds with no benefits and raise a couple kids and pay rent and daycare while you're at work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Someone working in a minimum wage job can't even pay for the daycare while they're in work.
Nexa
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
Nexa wrote:
HazelEyedDragn wrote:
If they can be educated and become productive members of society, then I have no problem with helping them. But we have to help them help themselves too. There are plenty of jobs at McD's and taco bell and the like, there is no reason, other than pure laziness, to be homeless. As long as they are trying, and want to improve their situation, then I don't mind them getting assistance. It's the ones that just want to live off other peoples hard work that annoy me.
Right, because you can work at McDonalds with no benefits and raise a couple kids and pay rent and daycare while you're at work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Someone working in a minimum wage job can't even pay for the daycare while they're in work.
Nexa
Well, maybe those people shouldn't have been sluts to begin with.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Tare wrote:
Nexa wrote:
HazelEyedDragn wrote:
If they can be educated and become productive members of society, then I have no problem with helping them. But we have to help them help themselves too. There are plenty of jobs at McD's and taco bell and the like, there is no reason, other than pure laziness, to be homeless. As long as they are trying, and want to improve their situation, then I don't mind them getting assistance. It's the ones that just want to live off other peoples hard work that annoy me.
Right, because you can work at McDonalds with no benefits and raise a couple kids and pay rent and daycare while you're at work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Someone working in a minimum wage job can't even pay for the daycare while they're in work.
Nexa
Well, maybe those people shouldn't have been sluts to begin with.
Agreed!
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
It'll be slightly amusing, and yet boringly predictable how you view of this will be the diametric opposite if you ever have kids.
(Yes, I know, I'm joking)
Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 1:27pm PST by Smasharoo
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
You need a license to get married too, dontcha? Tell me how well that works.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Smasharoo wrote:
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
It'll be slightly amusing, and yet boringly predictable how you view of this will be the diametric opposite if you ever stopped having miscarriages.
Fixed.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Tare wrote:
Nexa wrote:
HazelEyedDragn wrote:
If they can be educated and become productive members of society, then I have no problem with helping them. But we have to help them help themselves too. There are plenty of jobs at McD's and taco bell and the like, there is no reason, other than pure laziness, to be homeless. As long as they are trying, and want to improve their situation, then I don't mind them getting assistance. It's the ones that just want to live off other peoples hard work that annoy me.
Right, because you can work at McDonalds with no benefits and raise a couple kids and pay rent and daycare while you're at work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Someone working in a minimum wage job can't even pay for the daycare while they're in work.
Nexa
Well, maybe those people shouldn't have been sluts to begin with.
Agreed!
Dear Gawd, no! I was just kidding!
Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
Ok, so if you and your husband have some kids and it is agreed that you will stay home to care for them, then the ******* disappears and you discover that he's left you with $20k in credit card debt, you think the appropriate action would be to also take your children away rather than give you some money until you can get things straightened out? This is what you're telling me? You're completely ******* crazy sometimes Katie. I really hope you're just being hard headed here and only applying this nutty "vision" of yours to some bizarre extreme cases that made the news, because in the real world, someone being on welfare doesn't equate to them being a bad parent.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Ok, so if you and your husband have some kids and it is agreed that you will stay home to care for them, then the @#%^ disappears and you discover that he's left you with $20k in credit card debt, you think the appropriate action would be to also take your children away rather than give you some money until you can get things straightened out? This is what you're telling me? You're completely batsh*t crazy sometimes Katie. I really hope you're just being hard headed here and only applying this nutty "vision" of yours to some bizarre extreme cases that made the news, because in the real world, someone being on welfare doesn't equate to them being a bad parent.
Nexa
Ok, so if you and your husband have some kids and it is agreed that you will stay home to care for them, then the @#%^ disappears and you discover that he's left you with $20k in credit card debt, you think the appropriate action would be to also take your children away rather than give you some money until you can get things straightened out? This is what you're telling me? You're completely batsh*t crazy sometimes Katie. I really hope you're just being hard headed here and only applying this nutty "vision" of yours to some bizarre extreme cases that made the news, because in the real world, someone being on welfare doesn't equate to them being a bad parent.
Nexa
I am madly in love with you.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
I am madly in love with you.
/swoon
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Smasharoo wrote:
I am madly in love with you.
Nexa wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
I am madly in love with you.
/swoon
Nexa
Et tu?
Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 1:36pm PST by Elderon
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Taking a page from the louisiana democrats handbook, I see.
Nexa wrote:
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Perfect example of why should you have to file for a license before you can breed. If you can't meet the qualifications, you don't multiply. If something happens to you and you can't take care of them. Group Homes will help until you are on your feet again. If you are willing to go the extra mile to be able to get to the point where you can provide an acceptable living arrangement for your children, you can have them back. I realize people are going to cry "its too hard" to give up their child, but when it's better for them in the long run?
Ok, so if you and your husband have some kids and it is agreed that you will stay home to care for them, then the @#%^ disappears and you discover that he's left you with $20k in credit card debt, you think the appropriate action would be to also take your children away rather than give you some money until you can get things straightened out? This is what you're telling me? You're completely batsh*t crazy sometimes Katie. I really hope you're just being hard headed here and only applying this nutty "vision" of yours to some bizarre extreme cases that made the news, because in the real world, someone being on welfare doesn't equate to them being a bad parent.
Nexa
No, I am ******* crazy, I admit. I'd also like to point out you are not taking in the whole conversation If you'd read the whole discussion you'd realize I'm talking only about those ones that don't try. The ones content to do nothing but collect a govt check just because they had a child. I'm for helping those who want to help themselves. I'm against the ones who use the system as a means of earning a wage and never once go out there and try to better themselves. You get left with a child because your husband is a ball-less half wit, I'm more than willing to help you, but I'm not going to support you from now and until forever. You have to show "good faith", show you are going to try to better yourself, not just sit around eating bon bons and talking to this or that internet lover in a govt reduced home, with a meal card.
Nexa wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
I am madly in love with you.
/swoon
Nexa
Don't have any kids with him!
He just wants to ruin your credit.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
No, I am batsh*t crazy, I admit. I'd also like to point out you are not taking in the whole conversation If you'd read the whole discussion you'd realize I'm talking only about those ones that don't try. The ones content to do nothing but collect a govt check just because they had a child. I'm for helping those who want to help themselves. I'm against the ones who use the system as a means of earning a wage and never once go out there and try to better themselves. You get left with a child because your husband is a ball-less half wit, I'm more than willing to help you, but I'm not going to support you from now and until forever. You have to show "good faith", show you are going to try to better yourself, not just sit around eating bon bons and talking to this or that internet lover in a govt reduced home, with a meal card.
OHHHHHH!
So like it is now. Got it.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
I'm against the ones who use the system as a means of earning a wage and never once go out there and try to better themselves.
Oh...THEM! Well we're all for them getting jobs. Why didn't you just say so?
Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 1:39pm PST by Smasharoo
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I'd also like to see some kind of program implemented that if you want to go to college, you can, without worrying about money. Maybe some kind of scaled tuition. I'm for helping those who want to better themselves, but I have no time for those who just want to abuse the system.
I'd also like to see some kind of program implemented that if you want to go to college, you can, without worrying about money. Maybe some kind of scaled tuition.
Maybe like completely free tuition and room and board to all public universities?
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
achileez wrote:
If there were riots just pull out the guards and gas the sections that are rioting. After a few thousand deaths I'm quite sure the other inmates would fall in line. And it's not a f*cking choice whether the prisoners want to work or not. They don't get a say in the f*cking matter you f*cking commy pinko p*ssy. They don't work the guards get to use their face as a punching bag in front of the other prisoners.
Varus
You have got to be kidding.
If you're going to do this why not just gas the whole prison?
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