One of the biggest arguments I have seen against the Democrats is their funding of charity and welfare programs.
I told a friend that I voted Democratic and he shook his head and said; " I hope you're ready for higher taxes and having all your money go to poor ******* who get foodstamp cards and yet wear $200 sneakers".
My whimsical argument was that if it's the choice between giving money to poor blacks or foreigner militant Jews (Israel) then I would choose the poor blacks.
My friend is pretty racist... So he looked at it in that light and said that if he had to choose between giving money to blacks or Jews that he would shoot himself. I then told him that he better start loading up.
So I ask him, tell me, waht then should be done with the poor? Waht should be done with the disabled? WAht should be done with the "less fortunate"?
I kind of answered for him and told him that he could always suggest itler's way and just kill them all...
After all, if you say you don't want to help people.. and yet give no explaination on WHAT is to be done with them? I guess the logical answer is to kill them, right?
So I ask, all you people who (I assume are Republicans and thus against any kind of welfare programs, ect)
Waht is your answer to the even lasting questio of waht to do about the poor?
Usually the response is " Why should we support them? They are just lazy; looking fort a handout"
so.. uhh.. other than killing them.. or putting them in forced labour camps.. tell me, waht is the solution to this?
It is an issue that cannot be ignored.
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Fuck the poor.
That's an idea... not a disparaging remark
Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 9:23am PST by KriegsmaschineVondentoten
That's an idea... not a disparaging remark
Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 9:23am PST by KriegsmaschineVondentoten
Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
"I hope you're ready for higher taxes and having all your money go to poor @#%^s who get foodstamp cards and yet wear $200 sneakers"[/i].
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'd rather educate the poor and give them plenty of job opportunities than just hand them money. But that's just me.
I think I'm one of the few that doesn't mind higher taxes. hmm... let me put it another way. If I live in a country where my taxes dollars were going to be going toward programs to help the needy, universal health care, and better public amenities, such as public tansportation (in some EU countries the government pays for a bulk of their transit fees), drug rehab programs and clinics, Urban development repair, more public libraries, increase goevernment support for US industrial jobs, increase teacher/education funding...If my money was going directly towards those goals I'd probably give more money than what I'm paying now for taxes.
I think one problem I have (and some others) is that it's hard to see the results of paying taxes. It's hard to see where the money is being spent without having to look real hard.
I think one problem I have (and some others) is that it's hard to see the results of paying taxes. It's hard to see where the money is being spent without having to look real hard.
This one's easy, experimentation.
Instead of using animals we could just use humans. It'd probably be cheaper anyway and definitely more effective. We could spray them in the eyes with **** or pump them full of developmental drugs. Oh, oh! We could start turning them into cyborgs for prosthetic research. Or get a flock of them and start harvesting their organs. Slavery is always an option; I could use a couple myself. 'specially the Jews, I need someone to do my taxes this year.
Instead of using animals we could just use humans. It'd probably be cheaper anyway and definitely more effective. We could spray them in the eyes with **** or pump them full of developmental drugs. Oh, oh! We could start turning them into cyborgs for prosthetic research. Or get a flock of them and start harvesting their organs. Slavery is always an option; I could use a couple myself. 'specially the Jews, I need someone to do my taxes this year.
Jacobsdeception wrote:
Slavery is always an option; I could use a couple myself. 'specially the Jews, I need someone to do my taxes this year.
Problem solved
Two words: Soylent Brown. "It's made out of niggers!"
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
I'd rather educate the poor and give them plenty of job opportunities than just hand them money. But that's just me.
1. Giving them money is a lot easier.
2. Some of the poor are a really slow. There is just a certain percentage of any population that just won't be able to be educated or hold a job. It's the responsibility of the rest of us to keep them in twinkies and crisco so they can go out and vote Republican.
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I'd rather educate the poor and give them plenty of job opportunities than just hand them money. But that's just me.
1. Giving them money is a lot easier.
2. Some of the poor are a really slow. There is just a certain percentage of any population that just won't be able to be educated or hold a job. It's the responsibility of the rest of us to keep them in twinkies and crisco so they can go out and vote Republican.
1. If it's about what's easiest, then let's just give all the poor people a big hug, cross our fingers, and hope for the best.
2. For the percentage of the population that are immutably dense and/or lazy, there's always the dumpster behind Wendy's for their next meal.
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I'd rather educate the poor and give them plenty of job opportunities than just hand them money. But that's just me.
Wise words. You give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, blah blah blah.
Helping the poor with tax dollars is not a problem for me. Everyone goes through hard times and needs assistance at some point. The farmer had his crop eaten by locusts and has to file bankruptcy. Ladies husband dies and leave no estate, leaving her broke. These people deserve help. The ones that don't are those who take advantage of the system. Limits should be imposed on any form of assistance whether its welfare, unemployment or w/e.
No one should need assistance for more than, say, a year or so. If you can't get your **** together by then, then you deserve to die in the streets.
crushy,
/nod
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No one should need assistance for more than, say, a year or so. If you can't get your sh*t together by then, then you deserve to die in the streets.
/nod
Varus
No one should need assistance for more than, say, a year or so. If you can't get your sh*t together by then, then you deserve to die in the streets.
Why are you people soooo ******* slow?
It's not about the adults, it's about their children. That's the entire problem. If you're willing to let children starve to death then you can have your white privileged self righteousness about how easy it is to live in America and not feel badly for the starving poor.
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Smasharoo wrote:
No one should need assistance for more than, say, a year or so. If you can't get your sh*t together by then, then you deserve to die in the streets.
Why are you people soooo @#%^ing slow?
It's not about the adults, it's about their children. That's the entire problem. If you're willing to let children starve to death then you can have your white privileged self righteousness about how easy it is to live in America and not feel badly for the starving poor.
They are not children. They are like little brown and black ****-a-roaches. Who cares about little brown and black ****-a-roaches? There will always be more of them getting into your food and under your feet. Fuck 'um. Am I right or am I right Varass?
Didn't we already come up with a solution to this problem?
So who's up for some soylent green shakes after work?
So who's up for some soylent green shakes after work?
Rob the poor and give to the rich.
Smashed,
It's completely about the adults you bed wetting liberal commy; unless you plan on just giving the money directly to the children. You know what these f*cking bums are doing with their ebt cards? They're trading them for money or drugs, and paying interest on it to boot. Until we cut them off they're going to continue to abuse the system. H*ll in most major urban centers we're not talking 1rst generation bums we're talking 3rd and sometimes 4th generation welfare recipients.
When are you liberal b*stards going to realize you can't help anyone by giving money to irresponsible adults. We'd be better off just taking the children from these parents and telling the parents that's it get a job or starve.
Varus
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Why are you people soooo @#%^ing slow?
It's not about the adults, it's about their children. That's the entire problem. If you're willing to let children starve to death then you can have your white privileged self righteousness about how easy it is to live in America and not feel badly for the starving poor.
It's not about the adults, it's about their children. That's the entire problem. If you're willing to let children starve to death then you can have your white privileged self righteousness about how easy it is to live in America and not feel badly for the starving poor.
It's completely about the adults you bed wetting liberal commy; unless you plan on just giving the money directly to the children. You know what these f*cking bums are doing with their ebt cards? They're trading them for money or drugs, and paying interest on it to boot. Until we cut them off they're going to continue to abuse the system. H*ll in most major urban centers we're not talking 1rst generation bums we're talking 3rd and sometimes 4th generation welfare recipients.
When are you liberal b*stards going to realize you can't help anyone by giving money to irresponsible adults. We'd be better off just taking the children from these parents and telling the parents that's it get a job or starve.
Varus
Mentalmidget,
So it's really the poor that have nothing and the rich that are obtaining their vast reservoirs of wealth from these poor? That's brilliant.
Varus
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Rob the poor and give to the rich.
So it's really the poor that have nothing and the rich that are obtaining their vast reservoirs of wealth from these poor? That's brilliant.
Varus
MentalFrog wrote:
Rob the poor and give to the rich.
Yeah, that'd be different.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
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It's not about the adults, it's about their children. That's the entire problem. If you're willing to let children starve to death then you can have your white privileged self righteousness about how easy it is to live in America and not feel badly for the starving poor.
But what about when the adults don't care about their children? What if the only concern the parent has is their drug habit?
Children can't possibly have a say in how their parents spend money. Coming from a very poor, dysfunctional household growing up, I can speak from experience and say "YES", the children are the one's that suffer. But does allowing them to stay on welfare with no concern for their children or themselves make the child's life better? Hell no!
I'm a big fan of the three strikes law here in California when it's applied properly. The same should apply for anyone receiving government assistance (ie. my tax dollars). Again, if you aren't able to get your **** together, for both you and your childrens sake, your kids should be taken away and you deserve to die in the gutters. Get to work, slacker!
I have the answer! We round everyone up, and implant a device that keeps them from getting pregnant. You want to get pregnant? You have to pass a test, get a license and show you can care for your children.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
I have the answer! We round everyone up, and implant a device that keeps them from getting pregnant. You want to get pregnant? You have to pass a test, get a license and show you can care for your children.
Hell, we could just build unshielded nuclear plants in the poor neighborhoods, thereby alleviating another problem!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
I have the answer! We round everyone up, and implant a device that keeps them from getting pregnant. You want to get pregnant? You have to pass a test, get a license and show you can care for your children.
Right, because nothing ever goes wrong after the fact. Men never leave their wives, people never lose their jobs, noone is ever injured, etc.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
First of all, if there was a definitive answer for what to do with the less fortunate, it sure as hell wouldn't be here.
Just for the heck of it, let me throw ex-cons into the mix. If prision really is meant to reform, what do you do with folks who get out and want to go about living a decent law-abiding life, yet find that they're irrevocably hobbled by past mistakes?
Just for the heck of it, let me throw ex-cons into the mix. If prision really is meant to reform, what do you do with folks who get out and want to go about living a decent law-abiding life, yet find that they're irrevocably hobbled by past mistakes?
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