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#1 Nov 14 2006 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
....dolls.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/14/toy.jesus.ap/index.html wrote:
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A talking Jesus doll has been turned down by the Marine Reserves' Toys for Tots program.

A Los Angeles company offered to donate 4,000 of the 1 foot-tall dolls, which quote Bible verses, for distribution to needy children this holiday season. The battery-powered Jesus is one of several dolls manufactured by one2believe, a division of the Valencia-based Beverly Hills Teddy Bear Co., based on biblical figures.

But the charity balked because of the dolls' religious nature.

Toys are donated to kids based on financial need and "we don't know anything about their background, their religious affiliations," said Bill Grein, vice president of Marine Toys for Tots Foundation, in Quantico, Virginia.

As a government entity, Marines "don't profess one religion over another," Grein said Tuesday. "We can't take a chance on sending a talking Jesus doll to a Jewish family or a Muslim family."

Michael La Roe, director of business development for both companies, said the charity's decision left him "surprised and disappointed."

"The idea was for them to be three-dimensional teaching tools for kids," La Roe said. "I believe as a churchgoing person, anyone can benefit from hearing the words of the Bible."

According to the company's Web site, the button-activated, bearded Jesus, dressed in hand-sewn cloth outfits and sandals, recites Scripture such as "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again" and "Love your neighbor as yourself." It has a $20 retail value.

Grein questioned whether children would welcome a gift designed for religious instruction. "Kids want a gift for the holiday season that is fun," he said.

The program distributed 18 million stuffed animals, games, toy trucks and other gifts to children in 2005.



Seriously. Whomever thought this was a good idea needs to be whipped across the back with a cat'o nine. Preach to your friends, your neighbors, anyone capable of walking away from you if they don't want to hear it, that's all fine and dandy. But being so duplicitous to try and sneak your message through a non-religious charity, where the children are a captive audience at that point?

Smiley: thumbsdown Very Christian of you.
#2 Nov 14 2006 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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I don't doubt they think they are doing good, but if they had a little less vanity, they would do the truly selfless thing and just give without expectation.
#3 Nov 14 2006 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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The company makes religious teddy bears and "action figures".

It's not like they made the dolls specifically for the purpose of duping little kids.

Instead these kids will be getting the Baby Bratz Kocksucking Kids dolls.
#4 Nov 14 2006 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't doubt they think they are doing good, but if they had a little less vanity, they would do the truly selfless thing and just give without expectation.


You're right Flea, I don't doubt that in their eyes and mindset they thought it was doing good, but the continued vanity and self-imposed ignorance of the organized religions in general really grinds my gears.

And to boot, if another religious group did something similar, I'd bet good $$ there would be outrage for "trying to corrupt our youth" or something to that effect.



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#5 Nov 14 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
I love how they act shocked and innocent.... "I believe as a churchgoing person, anyone can benefit from hearing the words of the Bible." A great publicity stunt though, I can see my aunt being pissed about something like this.... I sure hope i dont get one of these dolls. BTW, i gotta agree with the previous poster, aforementioned aunt would probably call for war if they tried to give out little muhammad dolls.

Edited, Nov 14th 2006 at 12:20pm PST by guitarfingerer
#6 Nov 14 2006 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Michael La Roe, director of business development for both companies, said the charity's decision left him "surprised and disappointed."


I'm sure it did.
#7 Nov 14 2006 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
i find the idea of jesus dolls very weird. and isn't that a little sacreligious?
#8 Nov 14 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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Does it tell you to drown your siblings or shoot your parents?
#9 Nov 14 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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#10 Nov 14 2006 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not like they made the dolls specifically for the purpose of duping little kids.


Actually it's presicely like that, exactly.
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#12 Nov 14 2006 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
Simple, the signature line stands as originally written.
#13 Nov 14 2006 at 5:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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When my kids were young, we would have them pick out a toy that they knew some kid would like for Toys for Tots It taught them a lot about the meaning of Christmas, though we celebrate the holidays more out of family traditions then religion.

Getting one nice toy, when you otherwise can expect some junk from the Dollar store means a lot, so why ruin it with something you can't really expect a kid to play with.

My grand kids are going to grow up very confused, since they spend Hanuka with father's family, Winter Solstice with my ex and then Christmas with my family.

As a pagan I would like to spend the Solstice with them, but this way my family gets a day with the kids instead of the "got to run, as it's daddy's time" shuffle most divorce families work around.

Instead I find myself running about seeing Jonwin's family, before I get to opening presents and sit down for prime rib dinner with all the fixings, like my mom used to make.
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#14 Nov 14 2006 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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but if they had a little less vanity, they would do the truly selfless thing and just give without expectation.

you assume "christians" understand the meaning of the word christian.
#15 Nov 15 2006 at 1:48 AM Rating: Good
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aforementioned aunt would probably call for war if they tried to give out little muhammad dolls.



And so would the Muslims since its very sacraligious to depict/draw/make a doll of the Prophet.

At least we now know how WWIII will start.

Though I would still laugh at a little doll that says:

"And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you distress, surely the unbelievers are your open enemy."































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#16 Nov 15 2006 at 2:15 AM Rating: Default
as for the donater being "surprised and disappointed" and "everyone can benefit from a verse from the bible" , shame on you. here's the way i see it. the guy probably was thinking to himself "Hmmmm. what more impressionable than kids??? I know POOR kids". the reality of it all is the world has turned into a sickening place filled with broken religous icons, money grubbing scumbags, and nobody really cares about anyone else, just fufilling their own agenda. show me a religious person that will listen to someone of another religion P.O.V., and i will prove that person is an aethist. religon is just another reaon for people to say "we're right, your wrong" in the words of bart simpson "The stupid, petty differences are nothing compared to the huge obvious similarities" if there were one religion world wide, i might just have an intrest in religion
#17 Nov 15 2006 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
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At least we now know how WWIII will start.



Or I'm sure a Pope doll that quotes Emperor Manuel Paleologos II would work too.
#18 Nov 15 2006 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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RedPhoenixxxxxx wrote:
At least we now know how WWIII will start.



Or I'm sure a Pope doll that quotes Emperor Manuel Paleologos II would work too.


And we send it to all the Muslim kids for Christmas!

With a note saying "Rejoice, this is the day Jesus the Son of God was born!"

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#19 Nov 15 2006 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Michael La Roe, director of business development for both companies, said the charity's decision left him "surprised and disappointed."

"And we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling teenagers!"
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#21 Nov 15 2006 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
If I were some homeless kid and I got a talking Jesus doll from a Marine, I'd probably get all of my homeless friends and kick his ***.

Seriously, good move TfT!
#22 Nov 15 2006 at 11:21 AM Rating: Default
I'm sure all you atheistic immoral types would be much happier if they had just donated a ps2 or xbox along with games that include blowing up everything in sight.

Fortunately I have a solution; don't donate anything and tell those kids their parents are bums and they better study hard or they'll end up begging for gifts for their children when they grow up.

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#23 Nov 15 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I think talking Family Guy dolls would be more appropriate for a broader audience.
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#24 Nov 15 2006 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
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As a government entity, Marines "don't profess one religion over another," Grein said Tuesday. "We can't take a chance on sending a talking Jesus doll to a Jewish family or a Muslim family."


ok that organization just lost 100% of my respect.

Christmas is about Christ Birth, thus if you are NOT a Christian and you are receiving CHRISTmas gifts, then that is just tough.

Jews and Muslims DO NOT CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS. they should not be receiving these gifts for Christmas.
#25 Nov 15 2006 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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As a government entity, Marines "don't profess one religion over another," Grein said Tuesday. "We can't take a chance on sending a talking Jesus doll to a Jewish family or a Muslim family."


ok that organization just lost 100% of my respect.

Christmas is about Christ Birth, thus if you are NOT a Christian and you are receiving CHRISTmas gifts, then that is just tough.

Jews and Muslims DO NOT CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS. they should not be receiving these gifts for Christmas.


That's why they give gifts out for the HOLIDAY SEASON, not exclusively christmas.
#26 Nov 15 2006 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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ok that organization just lost 100% of my respect.


The Marines?

Why do you hate the troops?
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