Inspired by an OOT thread and a previous conversation with Flea...
Imagine that you meet a girl. In class, new worker at the office, moves in next door, whatever. You and her hit it off in a friendly sort of way and share some common interests; enough for a friendship. One day you ask about a necklace that she's wearing and it comes out that she believes in full faith and conviction in the validity of the ancient Greek pantheon. Lightning? By Zeus. Winter? Persephone in Hades. Hurricane Katrina? Work of Poseidon. Hercules really did perform twelve tasks, Persus slew the gorgon and Arachnea was a conceited spintress before she became a spider. The goddess of war watches over her namesake city and wine was a gift from some goat-footed fellow. Her reasonings are simply that she read the myths, they resonated in her and she believes that they are all true.
Would this dramatically change your opinion of her? What would you say?
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'd probably chuckle inside and get a kick out of her originality. After all, it's no kookier than believing in one bearded, white guy who lives in the sky, is it?
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Jophiel wrote:
What would you say?
Is it time for the pagan orgy?!
"Do you do ****?"
In all honesty, all I care about on the topic of religion would be them respecting my choice not to believe in anything, be it a Jew on a stick, or a transforming animal-rape-fetishist in this case.
In all honesty, all I care about on the topic of religion would be them respecting my choice not to believe in anything, be it a Jew on a stick, or a transforming animal-rape-fetishist in this case.
Had a guy from work say he doesn't believe in global warming and that it is just a conspiracy. That nothing man could do would ever effect global weather patterns.
It didnt effect how much I like the guy or whether I will sit down and have a beer with him after work, however I can't help looking at the guy and viewing him as an anachronism.
It didnt effect how much I like the guy or whether I will sit down and have a beer with him after work, however I can't help looking at the guy and viewing him as an anachronism.
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If that is the way in which thier mind rationalizes the natural forces; more power to them.
I would prorably still stress to them the point that most belief systems are mental parables to provide filler in the blanks of the unknown and indescribable.
I would prorably still stress to them the point that most belief systems are mental parables to provide filler in the blanks of the unknown and indescribable.
this thread feels...familiure. did you decide to abandon the discussion in oot for greener pastures?
i honestly would think that she was nuts but if she was nice or whatever it wouldn't matter. i have friends a lot loopier then that. and really, with religion it is all just different sides of the same coin as far as i am concerned. the only time i really take issue w/ religion is when it is shoved in my face.
i honestly would think that she was nuts but if she was nice or whatever it wouldn't matter. i have friends a lot loopier then that. and really, with religion it is all just different sides of the same coin as far as i am concerned. the only time i really take issue w/ religion is when it is shoved in my face.
invisiblenumbers wrote:
this thread feels...familiure. did you decide to abandon the discussion in oot for greener pastures?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Just be aware that she may not look at a swan, or a bull, or a spinning wheel the same way you do.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I would treat her the same way I treat all of my deeply religious friends... which is the exact same way as I treat all my friends, until it comes to either politics or religion. With respect. Once it comes to politics, blatantly ignoring what is going on in the world just means I won't really value their opinion (or I'll shoot them down if they say something they obviously know nothing about). When it comes to religion, it depends if they think they're better than everyone else. Paganism never really had that problem, I don't think. When you die, you go to the underworld, and can hopefully cross Styx; everyone is made equal. Christianity, it's a lot different: "If you don't believe my religion, you burn in hell." Everyone is equally screwed over.
Actually, I think I'd get along better with a devout Pagan chick than a Christian. Has anyone ever met someone like this? The closest I've come are Wiccans.
Actually, I think I'd get along better with a devout Pagan chick than a Christian. Has anyone ever met someone like this? The closest I've come are Wiccans.
Jophiel wrote:
invisiblenumbers wrote:
this thread feels...familiure. did you decide to abandon the discussion in oot for greener pastures?
Doubt ye the noodely appendage that comes from on high?????
dana, get in here and show all the wonders of the FSM!
Everyone should be touched by His Noodly Appendage
Do what now?
I respect anyones idealogy so long as respect is given back. Like Tare, I might get a chuckle out o fit on my own time, but so long as they're not preaching at me on how wrong my own ideas are, I have no problem with other ideas. It's what makes the world a different and interesting place to be. It's only when people or groups try to force their own beliefs on others by ridiculing or hate mongering that I have issues with
Jophiel wrote:
What would you say?
Let me see your bewbs.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
What would you say?
Let me see your bewbs.
Hows them batteries holding out for you?
I would probably keep pestering her about it, questioning her beliefs, trying to get her to rationalize her unfounded views of reality, until finally I inadvertently drove her away, losing the opportunity for sweet puntang.
However, this would also happen if she believed in Jesus. Same difference to me.
However, this would also happen if she believed in Jesus. Same difference to me.
DSD wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
What would you say?
Let me see your bewbs.
Hows them batteries holding out for you?
Down one pack, got a few more to go through.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
DSD wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
What would you say?
Let me see your bewbs.
Hows them batteries holding out for you?
Down one pack, got a few more to go through.
any changes?
DSD wrote:
any changes?
Nope. He thinks everything is fine. I beg to differ. I think the issue is going to die.
Well, I don't think it would change my view of her/him considering the closest thing I can come up with (for religion) is a loose following of Nordic principles. Far be in for me to bash on someone elses view. Still can't wrap my head around Christianity though.
I have a tattoo of the Eye of Odin on my forearm and when I'm asked about it and tell them that it reminds me to head to wisdom and insight in all things, (Think before you act) I've recieved my fair share of weird looks.
But then I remember some other Norse expressions... If they disagree, crush the mutherfucker.
I have a tattoo of the Eye of Odin on my forearm and when I'm asked about it and tell them that it reminds me to head to wisdom and insight in all things, (Think before you act) I've recieved my fair share of weird looks.
But then I remember some other Norse expressions... If they disagree, crush the mutherfucker.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
DSD wrote:
any changes?
Nope. He thinks everything is fine. I beg to differ. I think the issue is going to die.
You didnt sleep on the couch, did you?
This actually happened to me. The guy was dead serious, and as soon as I ascertained that, I said "Oh" and asked him about how he came to be that way, did he worship anywhere, etc. Privately I thought it was sort of odd, but like many of you have mentioned, just because I don't share someone's belief doesn't mean I get to ridicule it.
DSD wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
DSD wrote:
any changes?
Nope. He thinks everything is fine. I beg to differ. I think the issue is going to die.
You didnt sleep on the couch, did you?
I'm going to have to IM you when I can.
No, I got picked up and moved.Is this going to lead to you somehow burning AF on a big pile of cedar chips for her sudden polytheistic outlook?
I'm only about a two hour drive away. Call me, I'll bring the gasoline.
I'm only about a two hour drive away. Call me, I'll bring the gasoline.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
DSD wrote:
any changes?
Nope. He thinks everything is fine. I beg to differ. I think the issue is going to die.
Start doing searches on Lorena Bobbit and leave print outs of articles laying around. He will quickly figure out everything isn't fine.
Atomicflea wrote:
like many of you have mentioned, just because I don't share someone's belief doesn't mean I get to ridicule it.
I agree that ridicule is completely inappropriate. But surely there's nothing wrong with asking about it. Or even proposing that it's as a peculiar and unsubstantiated view of reality.
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