See you in Hell, Bolton.Follow

No, you're right, it most certainly didn't occur to them.




Yeah, you're right also, that's why we should go and invade Syria. And Iran, just in case.



Yeah, that's a very good point. When I think of all those Howitzers and Panzers, i just can't sleep at night. For all you know, Germany might still hide some.

Sobering thought if there ever was one.



Thank you Yamadog. I shall take this nugget of wisdom to my grave.

What about the WWI munitions in France (Mustard Gas) that are being plowed up after darned near a century that cause problems. Also by International Red Cross standards, mine fields in Vietnam, Cambodia and Korea are listed as WMD yet mine fields in Iraq are not. Does the United Nations have a responsibility to the children of the Middle East to help with Ordnance Disposal? WMD does not equate to Nuclear Biological and Chemical Warfare only and I'm sure Hans Blitz has an understanding of his nation’s involvement in moving weapons through France from WWII to present to supply the Iraqi government with mines, mustard and sarin and the Guinness Book of World Records even has the Iraqi use of WMD's documented during the past. Irrespective of which publisher you wish to use a simple check of the library will document the problem from Time Life to Newsweek to Readers Digest. Now we can discuss the small pox epidemic in New York City transferring to indigenous peoples in the US till the cows come home, but if we're manufacturing Kevlar legs for Iraqi children who stumble across an IUD maybe we should look to DuPont in 2007 as trying to make amends. Kind of hard to point a democratic finger at DuPont and have the Union Labor give the accuser their choice of fingers while their brothers, sisters, parents and children are in the cross fire. Now can anyone supply me with the name of the arms dealer President Clinton pardoned on his last day in office? Ah yes, Marc Rich. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1184118.stm

I think we're looking at Sarin Gas from as late as 2000.


Edited, Nov 13th 2006 at 7:48am PST by Barrelhunter

Do you have a cite for that thought?

As much fun as the "They had WMDs!" argument is, we're treading old ground. Here, read this (it gets good around the second half of page two) and get back to me with something new.

Edit: It took me some looking to find it again but re: landmines, I think we're more worried about what the United States government defines at a WMD rather than what the Red Cross says. According to the government...

Edited, Nov 13th 2006 at 9:11am PST by Jophiel

Well, if that's your BEST argument...

Can you honestly say you hold this position because you've watched him speak, or read some transcripts of his, or otherwise looked at his record both before and after filling the post at the UN?


Yup. Have you done any of those things? Nope.


Or is your entire knowledge of Bolton's capabilities based on just repeating stuff you heard other people say?


Nope. Do you know anything about the man at all that you didn't Google five seconds before posting? Nope.


Can you name one mistake he's made? One thing he's done wrong? One opportunity he missed that hurt the US diplomatically?

Yup. Dozens. Can you name one accomplishment he has as UN ambassador? Nope. Look out Google, here you come!



Edited, Nov 13th 2006 at 4:34pm PST by Smasharoo

He picked the Tuna salad on meatloaf day last wednesday. That's a mistake we all payed for...

We could go with Abraham Lincolns Executive Order #100, as I believe it is far more appropriate. I'm old school so forgive me if it's old news or hasn't made Wiki or CNN. At times though I have to contemplate what the Commander of an Illinois Militia Unit was contemplating as he signed papers coming across his desk. Could Clara Barton have been his psychic reader?

A scud missile is a delivery device for chemical munitions. In as much as we found scuds we have found WMD delivery devices. As such, we do not consider Iraq to not be using Wal-Mart Logistics and have a stock pile of various chemicals that could be housed in those devices. In as much as Greek Fire falls under the UN Mandates as a WMD for it's "radiation" value I'm thinking some of those nice Hazmat explosions seen on "pick your favorite liberal news cast" would equate to proof of the existence of a WMD. Hence grounding in coming flights from England not too long ago and looking for incendiary munitions. The thought would be that Dresden and London during WWII and the Japanese Balloons in Washington State, California, Oregon and Texas would constitute WMD's and the Triple Nickel a group of NWA smoke jumpers remembering their contribution to WWII "might" have provided an insight. Darned lazy darkies taking the easy way out then joining the FFA under the AFL CIO.

And before anyone asks me to provide a linky, I'd suggest waiting for the movie or Google it your darned self. And no, I'm not clicking every freaking link on the net. I'm old school and can figure when I'm being hosed by an Alabama Black Snake and appreciate it when my jacket is smoldering. It's not like I've never worked with Frogs, Brits, Spaghetti Benders and them Bama boys before.

The Triple Nickle was a WWII black parachute regiment assigned to the Pacific North West and Colorado tasked with jumping into forest fires. Members of the unit joined the FFA under the AFL CIO as fire fighters when they returned home. Yes I'm Racist just not in the bad way. Go out and interview one of the surviving members of the unit and you might just learn something.

If I ever did meet him at a party...wha?
Christ you're simple.

I'll make this very plain, so that you can understand. I'm not the kind of person that absentmindedly parrots the opinons of others, and that is why you don't understand my dislike of Bolton. Warm the cockles of your heart with the knowledge that my dislike of him is justfied and informed while I can roll around in the happy mud of my total disregard of your investment in my opinion.

I have no problems working with Smoke Jumpers of any race, color, creed or sex. The triple nickel jumped with white soldiers for that matter as well as aboriginal peoples from this side of the pond. I've worked with Kuwaiti fire fighters and enjoyed it. I've recently worked with the Red Cross/Red Crescent and when necessary kept kosher out of a mutual respect.

My mother’s father had no problem entering combat in Italy with the 442nd Infantry and my family reunions look like the United Nations with an attitude. Sorry but if you’re looking for a Liberal Democrat or Conservative Republican here your looking at the wrong Indian. Dad looked like Crazy Horse and mom looked like a normal white woman. Then again, the Presidents wife is "Hispanic".

Welcome to the US of A. I say the Pledge of Allegiance with Under God, take the Holy Sacrament, and sit a sater super with a Rabbi. I also kiss a Vietnamese girl every time I see her, as she's a friend and a nurse. For some reason when I'm assigned to an ambulance I don't say ewwww, you’re... I'm racist and sexist and require all my friends to have one.