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#1 Nov 09 2006 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Bolton unlikely to win Senate approval
By ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - Prospects for extending John Bolton's job as U.N. ambassador essentially died Thursday as Democrats and a pivotal Republican said they would continue to oppose the nomination.

It was another blow to President Bush two days after Democrats triumphed in elections that will give them control of Congress next year. On Wednesday, Bush had announced that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, a polarizing figure and face of the Iraq war, would step down.

On Thursday the White House resubmitted Bolton's nomination to the Senate, where the appointment has languished for more than a year. Bush appointed him to the job temporarily in August 2005 while Congress was in recess, an appointment that will expire in January.

Sen. Lincoln Chafee (news, bio, voting record), R-R.I., who was defeated by Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse on Tuesday, told reporters in Rhode Island on Thursday that he would continue opposing Bolton. That would deny Republicans the votes they would need to move Bolton's nomination from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to the full Senate.

Democrats indicated that even should the Senate try debating Bolton's nomination when lawmakers reconvene next week — still under Republican control — they would stretch out debate on Bolton with the aim of killing it.

"I see no point in considering Mr. Bolton's nomination again in the Foreign Relations Committee because regardless of what happens there, he is unlikely to be considered by the full Senate," said Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record) of Delaware, top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee.


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I'm just so...happy.
#2 Nov 09 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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I started creating a post about him this morning, but had second thoughts and scrapped it. I didn't want to get carried away with the euphoria.

But it could really be the case that his Bushist tactic of 'Join the Gang to wreck it' is on its last legs?

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#3 Nov 09 2006 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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I can't stand the man because he has the worst kind of temperament to work in a globally sensitive diplomatic role, and he makes us look bad.
#4 Nov 09 2006 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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I can't stand the man because he has the worst kind of temperament to work in a globally sensitive diplomatic role, and he has a 1978 moustache.
yep
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#5 Nov 09 2006 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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I can't stand the man because he has the worst kind of temperament to work in a globally sensitive diplomatic role, and he has a 1978 moustache.
yep
Actually, that just makes me sorry for his wife.
Ow, rugburn!
#6 Nov 09 2006 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought this was going to be about Michael Bolton. Then Nobby jumped in and I started thinking a collaboration project between Bolton and Clampton. Either way it sucks.
#7 Nov 09 2006 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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I thought this was going to be about Michael Bolton. Then Nobby jumped in and I started thinking a collaboration project between Bolton and Clampton. Either way it sucks.
Tsk, tsk.
Let's not soil what we have with petty recriminations.
#8 Nov 09 2006 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Political preferences aside, I think that both sides can agree that this is a good thing.
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#9 Nov 09 2006 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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'Cept for Gbaji. He'll defend Bush's choice. Guarenteed.
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#10 Nov 09 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
I agree, it's beautiful.

Thanks for voting the way you did.

Really.

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#11 Nov 10 2006 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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'Cept for Gbaji. He'll defend Bush's choice. Guarenteed.


Sure. Why shouldn't I? Bolton actually say's what he thinks on the issues. It seems like most of you have this perception that a UN ambassador should just kinda nod his head and not actually push US interests abroad.


How about this. Tell me *exactly* why you think Bolton is a bad choice? Do you even know what his positions are on various UN issues? Can you tell me what he's done that wrong? Seems to me that he was instrumental in getting 6 party talks going with North Korea. Also seems to me that he was instrumental in helping get the Hezbollah/Isreal conflict settled down in a reasonable timeframe. Seems as though he's done a great job keeping diplomatic pressure on Iran with regards to their nuclear program.

What would you prefer? Someone who just ignored these things? Someone who made no effort? The UN by itself seems perfectly content to ignore future problems until they're literally on their own doorsteps. It's refreshing to have someone in there who'll kick up a bit of dust in that group now and then.


It's only a small step from "not pissing off the rest of the world" to "letting the rest of their world step all over the US". I think most of the people bashing on Bolton are doing so for no reason other then that Bush appointed him. The guy's actual record while serving at the UN has been quite good.
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As I was saying...
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#13 Nov 10 2006 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Now they'll send some *** kisser to the corupt U.N. The only thing that will happen after that is the empty threat of economic sanctions.
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Bolton actually say's what he thinks on the issues


So basically the diametric opposite of the job description.

ideal.

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#15 Nov 10 2006 at 10:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why is this thread not about Michael?
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#16 Nov 10 2006 at 11:03 PM Rating: Good
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Michael's signature sound is him crooning the closing notes of the chorus line like he's passing a stone or herniating a disk. Just awful.

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It's only a small step from "not pissing off the rest of the world" to "letting the rest of their world step all over the US".

SLIPPERY SLOPE!

This kind of reasoning led to the "preemptive strike" on a country that didn't seem to have any WMDs.


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Michael's signature sound is him crooning the closing notes of the chorus line like he's passing a stone or herniating a disk. Just awful.

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One more reason for him to be in hell
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#19 Nov 10 2006 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
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What happend to Boltons Hair?

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This kind of reasoning led to the "preemptive strike" on a country that didn't seem to have any WMDs.


Get the **** out of here with that logic. If we couldn't find any WMD's in Iraq, it's because Saddam used them to gas the Kurds.
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#21 Nov 10 2006 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
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Also seems to me that he was instrumental in helping get the Hezbollah/Isreal conflict settled down in a reasonable timeframe.


Just enough time to drop about 3 million cluster bombs on the olive fields of southern Lebanon, you mean?

Yeah. good job there Leggo hair!
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#22 Nov 11 2006 at 2:28 AM Rating: Decent
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This time I actually have to kind of agree with Gbaji. (GASP!!!)

Bolton actually hasn't done too bad of a job. For all the ruckus everyone raised when he was nominated, you'd have expected him to be in the main chamber with a big foam cowboy hat and boots, kicking dirt on all the 'inferiors' from the rest of the world.
#23 Nov 12 2006 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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What happend to Boltons Hair?

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This kind of reasoning led to the "preemptive strike" on a country that didn't seem to have any WMDs.


Get the @#%^ out of here with that logic. If we couldn't find any WMD's in Iraq, it's because Saddam used them to gas the Kurds.


You are one brain-dead little boy.

And yes he did gas the Kurds with stuff the US, the UK and France sold him. Was that why the US went to war?

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, so please just shut the fuck up.
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#24 Nov 12 2006 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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It's only a small step from "not pissing off the rest of the world" to "letting the rest of their world step all over the US".

SLIPPERY SLOPE!

This kind of reasoning led to the "preemptive strike" on a country that didn't seem to have any WMDs.


Oh God, I sound like a dirty hippy. Need more beer!


You do realize this leaves Rummy available for nomination to the position. Then during senate confirmation, he will pull out his copy of the Princess Di story and point out that land mines are WMD's by UN and Congressional standards. So are all the car bombs.
http://www.landmines.org.uk/100

No disrespect, but be careful for what you wish, because you might just get it.

Nothing says that the President can’t pull a fast one and nominate Major Duckworth wasn’t her father a UN worker? Also Mr. Baker is about to suggest that if Taliban translates to “The Students” and it was the students under the Ayatollah that took the 52 hostages during the Iranian Crisis some of the WMD’s have crossed to Syria and Iran.

Nothing says that Mr. Bolton won’t be placed in the position for another year during the holidays either.

Irrespective of who fills the position the issues will be the same and hard decisions are going to have to be made.

And those Israelis are putting so logs on the fire further ******* up the situation by making issues with Iran and its nuclear threaght.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-12-US-israel_x.htm?csp=34

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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert began a five-day trip to the United States on Sunday, armed with an agenda focusing on the Iranian nuclear threat and Israel's relations with the Palestinians.
On the flight over, Olmert repeated his view that Iran will not scale back its nuclear ambitions unless it fears the consequences of its intransigence, a spokeswoman said.
"They (the Iranians) have to be afraid of the consequences if there isn't a compromise," spokeswoman Miri Eisin cited Olmert as telling journalists on the flight to Washington.


Darned shame the world doesn’t sleep.
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You are one brain-dead little boy.

And yes he did gas the Kurds with stuff the US, the UK and France sold him. Was that why the US went to war?

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, so please just shut the **** up.


No, that's not the reason why we went to war with Saddam. He refused to comply with Weapons Inspectors and U.N. resolutions. When the Inspectors said they didn't find any WMD's, did it occur to them they were hidding them? Top military officials said Saddam sent the WMD's to Syria before the U.S. invaded.

In fact they have found some old WMD's that were decaying. Just because something is old doesn't mean it can't be a threat anymore. Just look at all the WWII munitions left around today.

Redphoenix, don't believe everything you see on CNN.
#26 Nov 12 2006 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
ooooh! *gets out the popcorn*
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