Say it with me...Speaker Pelosi.Follow

How obvious is that? For people who try to pretend they are so politically savvy, green party people are some of the dumbest people in American politics.


They're just idealists. They really, honestly, nearly always wouldn't be voting at all if not for the Green Party, so it's a little facile to blame them for Dems losing. Not that I don't think Dems shouldn't found a "Freedom Party" with a big eagle as a symbol and fund right wing candidates in the South.

I don't know where the precincts are at but I find it hard to imagine a win. Unless they just haven't counted St. Louis yet or something.

That's exactly what I'm hearing.

Urban precincts are reporting late.

St Louis and KC are allegedly yet to be counted.

We'll see I guess.

I'll be damned... 49% McCaskill to 48% Talent. And, in some irony, 2% went to the Libertarian vote.

Still not calling it a win but it does my heart good to see it down to the wire.

Madam Speaker what next a women President? God save us.

Yup

Add to that a seething hatred of politics in general and the desire to vote for just about anyone but one of the two main parties on sheer principle. It's a very simple ideal that one should vote for the person that one thinks would best serve the position, and that's it.



I would venture to say that most people voting green aren't doing it because they think that they have a snowballs chance in hell of actually electing the desired candidate. I would hope at least that they don't simmer with disappointment after each time they get defeated. Voting green is voting to make a statement and to focus on the virtue of the means of the action.

The entire decision relies upon whether you look at the means or ends of the institution of voting, of whether you like pragmatism and results or whether you prefer to hold out a futile hope that you might actually be able to put to the voting institution the use for which it was intended: expression of personal ideal.



lol

You're honestly going to blame people for exercising thier right how they want to do it in they way that it was intended because they should have somehow spontaneously developed a sense of perfect clairivoyance concerning the results of a (then) future state of events?

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 10:34pm PST by Pensive

I've no idea what a Freeper is but here's hoping, regardless.

Even a 50/50 split will cut down severely on Cheney's hunting schedule

Edit: Good Lord. Webb's head (left) looks like some malformed potato!

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 10:37pm PST by Jophiel

"electing an enviromentally friendly democratic majority and a kill the trees and drill for oil Republican majority" --El Jefe

****, Allakhazam, I always knew you were a nutty liberal Leftie, but not I-don't-eat-meat-or-wear-animal-skin crazy. What do you wear to work? Pinstriped hemp?

Totem

I think the lazy bastards in VA have packed in for the night. I assume it'll go to a recount anyway before a winner is declared.

McCaskill is up by 25,000 votes at this point though. 50/50 to say the worst case scenario barring some major event.

Nah, we win barring some major bombshell.

**** cautious optimism, we win this time.

Oh. And here I was thinking it was a typo that mistakenly had Ted Kennedy in the DUI Party...

Totem

Looks as though someone in VA found fresh batteries for their abacus.

1,148,789 Webb to 1,142,997 for Allen

I considered waking up Flea to tell her but... I think I'd best wait

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 11:09pm PST by Jophiel

Haha. Dems picking up "Safe" GOP seats in Kansas and Iowa.

Pelosi will very likely looking at a bulletproof majority.

On the other hand, the more moderate wing of the GOP in the House is just getting absolutely eviscerated. It makes you wonder if Evangelicals really did decide to send a message to the GOP leadership and this loss could actually move the GOP even further to the right.

It'll be interesting to see if the Dems will expend political energy on "investigating" (read persecuting here) Bush or if Pelosi will be able to rein in the more rabid libs in their attempt for some payback. She said she didn't want to see a return to the special prosecutor days of yore where endless investigations into alleged misdeeds by sitting Presidents occupied Congress' attention, but between Conyers, Hastings, and Waxman salivating at the chance to ********* W, she may have her hands full.

Furthermore, it'll be even more interesting to see if the Dems stick by the moderate political planks aimed at the middle class that got them this election or if they'll cave in to the Allakhazam-like liberal base who would have us walking/commuting to work in our newly purchased Birkenstocks and worshipping that withered tree out in the front yard dying from Dutch Elm disease.

Frankly, I suspect after everything I've seen in the past thirty years, not much will be radically different with the changing of the guard. Once any party exceeds its grasp and attempts things to far ranging from the comfortable middle, the voters just push them out of office.

Totem