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#1 Nov 03 2006 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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"Well sure I bought methamphetamines from him and got a massage, but that don't mean a thing!"

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Evangelist Ted Haggard admitted Friday that he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the outspoken gay marriage opponent.

Haggard resigned Thursday as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and stepped down as leader of his Colorado megachurch while the two groups investigate the allegations.


Wonder if the massage had as happy an ending as his evangelical career?
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#2 Nov 03 2006 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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What a ******....
#3 Nov 03 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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lol

1 down, the rest to go.
#4 Nov 03 2006 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's not gay if you're on methamphetamines!!!
#5 Nov 03 2006 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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It's not gay if you're on metroamphetamines!!!
Wheeeee!
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#6 Nov 03 2006 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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"I bought it for myself but never used it," he said. "I was tempted, but I never used it."
Wow... I've never been tempted to try meth. I always figured I'd hold off on meth until I was living in a van down by the river.

Bought it but never used it, indeed... Smiley: dubious
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#7 Nov 03 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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And he doesn't have it anymore because he flushed it! Makes perfect sense.
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#8 Nov 03 2006 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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Can't we just go out on a limb at this point and just accept as fact that all men against gay marriage really desperately want to be nailed in the pooper by high school football players?

I submit that we can.

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#9 Nov 03 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Haha, you submit.
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#10 Nov 03 2006 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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Haha, you submit.


Hah... Hmmm...


Guess they ran out of high-profile Republicans to out?
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#11 Nov 03 2006 at 5:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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I found myself highlighting the background to make sure there weren't hidden words in your post gbaji! It's too short!! WTF!!
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#12 Nov 03 2006 at 5:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Guess they ran out of high-profile Republicans to out?
They who?


Ooooohhhh.... right. The fearsome liberal conspiracy who's behind every conservative getting in trouble Smiley: dubious
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#13 Nov 03 2006 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
Well, Haggard must have known that the gay, meth selling, prostitute was a liberal too, come on!

(get it? Liberal to cUm on?)
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#14 Nov 03 2006 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Who decided that strike-through text equals whispered aside? Just put it in small font or something.
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#15 Nov 03 2006 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
That is small font now, apparently. Think Kao nixed the example

No, this is small font you idiot. I didn't do **** to it.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2006 at 7:50pm PST by Kaolian
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#16 Nov 03 2006 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
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The idea that it's inherently hypocritical to be gay and also oppose gay marriage is the core issue. This is the same thing I said about Foley. Haggert is being attacked for the same reason. He's a vocal opponent of gay marriage, and someone now alleges that he's been having gay affairs with a prostitute.

Not exactly hard to see the connection here. I'm not implying any sort of massive conspiracy. Just a common belief that's been spread around liberal circles that the way to fight against opponents of gay marriage is to target them and see if you can find some who are gay or can be made to appear to be gay. Thus, Republican members of Congress are obvious targets, as are any religious figures who speak out against gay marriage.

It's all part of the same (IMO flawed) argument. As I've argued many many times, one can be gay and still be opposed to gay marriage. I think it's ludicrous to assume that all gay people must hold the same political ideolgy simply because they are gay.

Or is it fair for me to argue that since you're a white male that it's hypocrisy for you to not run around with a white sheet over your head burning crosses on black people's lawns? It's not necessarily a good thing to have every individual group of people identifying themselves solely with their group and holding positions purely based on what is better for them and them alone.
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#17 Nov 03 2006 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
Sorry, you're right. I shouldn't assume that a gay, meth selling, prostitute is a liberaL. Nor should I assume that an evangelical opponent of gay marriage is straight.

My bad.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2006 at 6:49pm PST by Omegavegeta
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That is small font now, apparently. Think Kao nixed the example
You forgot the "m" in your small tags.
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#19 Nov 03 2006 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
"m"

Gotcha.
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#20 Nov 03 2006 at 7:21 PM Rating: Good
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Now that we got that all straightened out, can we continue with politicising the irrelevant ******** now?
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#21 Nov 03 2006 at 7:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
The idea that it's inherently hypocritical to be gay and also oppose gay marriage is the core issue.
Even more core is that it's inherently hypocritical to oppose homosexuality and engage in homosexal acts with a male prostitute.
The Trib wrote:
Haggard, who as president of the National Association of Evangelicals wielded influence on Capitol Hill and condemned both gay marriage and homosexuality, resigned on Thursday after a Denver man named Mike Jones claimed that he had many drug-fueled trysts with Haggard.
(bolding mine)
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#22 Nov 03 2006 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
That is small font now, apparently. Think Kao nixed the example

No, this is small font you idiot. I didn't do sh*t to it.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2006 at 7:50pm PST by Kaolian


RACK that Kao! I just nearly laughed my *** out of the chair
#23 Nov 03 2006 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
The idea that it's inherently hypocritical to be gay and also oppose gay marriage is the core issue.
Even more core is that it's inherently hypocritical to oppose homosexuality and engage in homosexal acts with a male prostitute.
The Trib wrote:
Haggard, who as president of the National Association of Evangelicals wielded influence on Capitol Hill and condemned both gay marriage and homosexuality, resigned on Thursday after a Denver man named Mike Jones claimed that he had many drug-fueled trysts with Haggard.
(bolding mine)


That's nice. But that's *not* the stated "hypocrisy" that caused the guy in question to come forward:

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Jones said he decided to go public because he was also upset when he discovered Haggard and the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage.

"It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.

"I just want people to step back and take a look and say, 'Look, we're all sinners, we all have faults, but if two people want to get married, just let them, and let them have a happy life,'" said Jones, who added that he isn't working for any political group.



I think the fellows motivation on this is pretty clear, don't you? Whether or not it's *also* hypocritical to oppose homosexuality in general while having gay sex with someone is beside the point. In this case, the person who came forward with this information was specifically upset over the gay marriage issue (and apparently only coincidentally reveals this information 6 days before the elections).


Haggard has also only admitted to having purchased drugs from the man. Not to any sexual activity. Can't say how much I believe that either, but at this point, the allegations that he was having a homosexual affair with this guy are just that: allegations. Easy to make. Conveniently impossible to debunk between now and election day...
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said Jones, who added that he isn't working for any political group.

At least we won't have to blame this one on the scary Liberal Conspiracy! Smiley: laugh
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#25 Nov 03 2006 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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That is small font now, apparently. Think Kao nixed the example

No, this is small font you idiot. I didn't do sh*t to it.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2006 at 7:50pm PST by Kaolian


Smiley: lol
#26 Nov 03 2006 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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Or is it fair for me to argue that since you're a white male that it's hypocrisy for you to not run around with a white sheet over your head burning crosses on black people's lawns?


No, but you could argue that for a black guy to do it would be a little hypocritical.

See the point, yet, lightnin?

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