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#1 Oct 27 2006 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Hollywood star Michael J. Fox is finding out just how ugly US politics can get, facing claims he played up tormenting affects of Parkinson's to puff up Democrat candidates in mid-term elections.

The "Back to the Future" star faced conservative fire after taking his crusade for embryonic stem-cell research -- which sufferers hope holds the key to curing the disease -- onto the campaign trail ahead of November 7 polls.

In a heart-wrenching television commercial, the once fresh-faced Canadian-born star writhes and twitches, struggling to hold his head still to look into camera.

"What you do in Missouri matters to millions of Americans. Americans like me," Fox tells voters in an ad for Democrat Senate candidate Claire McCaskill.

Democrats have made embryonic stem-cell research a hot-button issue in the elections, after
President George W. Bush used his first veto in July to block expansion of federal funds for such experiments.

Critics charge Bush and fellow Republicans are holding back science to placate religious conservatives who argue the practice involves destroying human embryos and is immoral.

Fox's intervention angered outspoken conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, who claimed Fox was simply playing out his latest role.

"He is moving around, and shaking, and it's clearly an act," Limbaugh said, on his popular hard-hitting show.

Limbaugh stepped back slightly Tuesday, apologising to Fox for accusing him of acting -- but insisted the actor was exploiting his disease.

"Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said.

"All right, then I stand corrected .. I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."

But Limbaugh added : "Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democrat politician."

On Tuesday, campaigning with another Democrat, maimed
Iraq war veteran Tammy Duckworth in Illinois, Fox referred to the controversy, saying that day, his symptoms were under control, but could get worse.

"Today is a good day, but it could go to hell," he said.

Limbaugh's fellow conservative talk-show host Sean Hannity told ABC's Good Morning America Wednesday Fox was fair game.

The actor, who also starred in political drama "Spin City" had "a right to speak up, but he also has a right to be criticised," Hannity said.

"What's unfortunate and deceiving about the ad is that this is about the federal funding of embryonic stem cells," Hannity said, arguing members of Congress had no jurisdiction over the issue.

Bush set rules in 2001 that banned federal support for work on stem-cell lines derived from human embryos and allowed research only for a small number of stem-cell lines that existed at the time.

Researchers want to use embryos -- consisting of a handful of cells -- left over from in vitro fertilization (IVF) procedures to help create cures for some devastating diseases, like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

Missouri voters are being asked to vote on a ballot proposal which would amend the state constitution to protect stem-cell research, including the embryonic variety.

It is not the first time that Fox, diagnosed 15 years ago, has climbed the campaign hustings.

In October 2004, Fox joined Democrat presidential candidate
John Kerry in New Hampshire to lambast Bush over embryonic stem cell research, reducing some voters to tears as he shook perceptibly.

Kerry also campaigned on the issue with Dana Reeve, widow of paralysed "Superman" star Christopher Reeve, who herself died of lung cancer this year.


Gee, the bold didn't make me immediately think of Brownback and his 'snowflake kids.' Oh and how about the candidates using the ol' 9/11 backdrop. Smiley: oyvey

Anyhow after Fox's Couric interview, I bet Rush felt pretty salty.



If it's even possible for political talk show hosts to experience human emotions.
#2 Oct 27 2006 at 5:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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From CNN's story on the same:
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Fox told Couric that he did the ads only to advance his cause, and that he doesn't care about politics.

"Disease is a nonpartisan problem that requires a bipartisan solution," he said.

"Would you support a Republican candidate?" Couric asked.

"I have," Fox replied. "I've campaigned for Arlen Specter," describing the Republican senator from Pennsylvania as a "fantastic champion of stem-cell research."
Fox isn't "shilling for the Democrats" as much as he's shilling for the party he thinks most likely to push funding for the research he thinks may help save him.

If I were in his condition and the Republicans were trying to get the funding past Democratic opposition, I'd probably be all for voting Republican. I think that that sort of disease may help make someone a single-issue voter.
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#3 Oct 27 2006 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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Rush is just desperate for ratings. He's probably feeling some oxycontin withdrawl.
#4 Oct 27 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Rush is just desperate for ratings. He's probably feeling some oxycontin withdrawl.


As much as I dislike Rush he is actully pretty popular.

Top 3 national radio programs to date are:
Sean Hannity
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
(notice the similarities)

First two I cant stand most of the time. However, Glenn Beck is a pretty entertaining guy (on the radio cant stand his t.v. show). Anyways, I think Rush is more desperate to help the people he is campaining for then his own ratings.
#5 Oct 27 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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As much as I dislike Rush he is actully pretty popular.

Well shit, who knew?


#6 Oct 27 2006 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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Gee, the bold didn't make me immediately think of Brownback and his 'snowflake kids.' Oh and how about the candidates using the ol' 9/11 backdrop.


Not that you don't have a point in general, it's also "pointworthy" to note that the snowflake kids are actual people who actually live purely because IVF embryos were *not* tossed down a drain or used for scientific research. Wheras Fox is someone who *might* benefit from a cure which may or may not hinge on using those embryos...


I absolutely don't fault Fox for doing what he's doing. And Rush was clearly wrong to essentially attack Fox's illness or imply that he was "faking it". However, Fox is using his illness and the emotional effect is has on those who see him to further a political campaign that at best has an incredibly slim relation to the illness itself.

Right now, we're nowhere near researching a cure for anything using stem cells. We're still working out the basics of their function. Something which adult stem cells are just as useful for as embryonic. Right now, the limiting factor isn't availability of embryonic stem cell lines, but simply time and money. Which (I almost hesitate to add) only exists because Bush did push forward with funding.


Imagine we were trying to figure out how the wheel worked, and Bush funded research into doing so, but failed to also include funding for developing rubber tires to put on the cars that might someday result from inventing the wheel. Attacking the failure to fund research using new embryonic stem cells is about that silly...


I know that some people are desperate for what seems like the potential for miracle cures from stem cell research, and that their plight can easily tear at the heartstrings of voters. But the fact is that Bush not funding that tiny portion of stem cell research will likely have absolutely zero effect on the total time it'll take for any given medical breakthrough or cure to appear. To imply that somehow if a Republican is elected in one state, it'll doom Fox to a horrible death is quite a stretch. There are no guarantees we'll ever discover a cure for his disease as a result of stem cell research of any kind, much less that conducting embryonic research on new lines is the only way it'll ever happen.
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#7 Oct 27 2006 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
If stem cell cures were so promising at this point in time (and I'm not saying they will never be) why aren't private companies that could stand to make billions of dollars jumping at the chance to privately fund the research? Why does everyone attack Bush for not allowing gov't money to be spent on something that could/couldn't be a cure if even those who stand to achieve wealth beyond imagine won't even take the risk?

Just some questions I ask. Personally, I hope the scientists are able to use stem cells to find cures for many diseases, just preferable not embryo cells as there are other sources avaliable.

And sorry if I misspelled something. I'm trying to type on finger short.
#8 Oct 27 2006 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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In Wisconsin the private sector is starting to heat up. Recently some of the more promising talent from UW-Madison here are joining up with private companies. There might be some breakthroughs sooner than you think.

The federal government is funding stem cell research, just not certain types.
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Paskil wrote:
Gee, the bold didn't make me immediately think of Brownback and his 'snowflake kids.' Oh and how about the candidates using the ol' 9/11 backdrop.
Not that you don't have a point in general, it's also "pointworthy" to note that the snowflake kids are actual people who actually live purely because IVF embryos were *not* tossed down a drain or used for scientific research. Wheras Fox is someone who *might* benefit from a cure which may or may not hinge on using those embryos...
And not that we haven't been through this before, but eggs embryos donated to the Snowflake Program currently make up a distinct minority of unused embryos even without federally funded experimentation.

It's a good talking point for the heartstrings but the simple fact is that giving your frozen embryos to the program doesn't resonate with a lot of 'parents'. Opening up federal funding isn't likely to make people say "Well, we were going to give our embryos to some unfortunate people who can't have children but then we decided to have them experimented on instead."
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it's also "pointworthy" to note that the snowflake kids are actual people who actually live purely because IVF embryos were *not* tossed down a drain or used for scientific research.

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#11 Oct 28 2006 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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#12REDACTED, Posted: Oct 29 2006 at 3:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Who cares? He *acted* exaggeratted Parkinson's jerking. #1 It was a disservice. #2 Stem cells are irrelevent. So much for the truth ... might as well face it, you're addicted to B.S.
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