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#1 Oct 20 2006 at 6:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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The AP via the CT wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The Shiite militia run by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr seized total control of the southern Iraqi city of Amarah on Friday in one of the boldest acts of defiance yet by one of the country's powerful, unofficial armies, witnesses and police said.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dispatched an emergency security delegation that included the Minister of State for Security Affairs and top officials from the Interior and Defense ministries, Yassin Majid, the prime minister's media adviser, told The Associated Press.

The Mahdi Army fighters stormed three main police stations Friday morning, planting explosives that flattened the buildings, residents said.

About 800 black-clad militiamen with Kalashnikov rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers were patrolling city streets in commandeered police vehicles, eyewitnesses said. Other fighters had set up roadblocks on routes into the city and sound trucks circulated telling residents to stay indoors.
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Mahdi Army militiamen have long enjoyed a free rein in Amarah, the provincial capital of the southern province of Maysan. The militiamen often summon local government officials for meetings at their offices, and they roam the city with their weapons, manipulate the local police and set up checkpoints at will.

Since British troops left Amarah in August, residents say the militia has been involved in a series of killings, including slayings of merchants suspected of selling alcohol and women alleged to have engaged in behavior deemed immoral by militiamen.
British troops had left Amarah back in August, handing over control to the Iraqi government and security forces. Pretty much immediately, the British base was looted and stripped clean. And now the city of 300,000 is under militia control.

I suppose Amarah will be the new Fallujah this season.

Edited, Oct 20th 2006 at 7:56am PDT by Jophiel
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#2 Oct 20 2006 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
Well there is a big difference between British troops and Iraqi troops. British troops actually know how to USE their guns.
#3 Oct 20 2006 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
They're only doing this now in an effort to hurt the republicans in the impending elections.
#4 Oct 20 2006 at 7:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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They're only doing this now in an effort to hurt the republicans in the impending elections.
No way. The Madhi army is in league with Bush & Co, so now Bush can say "See? If we cut and run and leave things to the Iraqi Security Forces, they'll fuck it all up! We need to stay in Iraq until.. umm.. the security forces stop fucking up, I guess."

Then we can blame the British for cutting and running!
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#5 Oct 20 2006 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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Dude, how terribly disheartening for everyone involved.
#6 Oct 20 2006 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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As part of a larger story
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U.S. military brass have also been flustered by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's resistance to taking a harder stance against militias. Al-Maliki owes much of his political power to the 30 members of parliament that are aligned with Moqtada Sadr, the renegade Shiite cleric who holds authority over Iraq's largest and most troublesome militia, the Mahdi Army.

Caldwell confirmed reports that U.S. forces were ordered by al-Maliki earlier this week to release a top Sadr aide, Mazin al-Sa'edi, who was suspected of orchestrating Shiite violence against Sunnis.
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So not only is there a militia taking over an Iraqi city, but the prime minister of the new Iraqi government is beholden to the leader of said militia.

Edited, Oct 20th 2006 at 9:23am PDT by Jophiel
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#7 Oct 20 2006 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
ive said it before and ill say it again. until the ME learns to grow up as a group of nations and stop living as tribes there will be no peace in the ME short of total genocide and that just would be wrong.
#8 Oct 20 2006 at 8:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, they were fairly content as a group of tribes until Europe told them it was time to grow up and become a group of nations. Smiley: wink2
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#9 Oct 20 2006 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Well at least they'll qualify for GC protection, being uniformed and all...
#10 Oct 20 2006 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
MSNBC wrote:
Iraqi looters carry metal pipes from a former British base, in Amarah, Iraq, on Friday. Looters took everything from doors and window frames to corrugated roofing and metal pipes one a day after British troops handed the camp over to Iraqi forces.


Iraqi security forces must really be slow to respond if they can loot items one a day.
#11 Oct 20 2006 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright, that's it! Smiley: mad

Let's just vacate that Shithole ASAP and moon them on the way out. Let the fUckers kill each other by the tens of thousands.

Dumbasses had their chance.
#12 Oct 20 2006 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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In yet more news...
The Tribune, yet again, wrote:
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, at a Pentagon news conference, said the government of Iraq is going to have to take over its country's security "sooner rather than later."

He said the biggest mistake would be to not continue turning regions of the country over to the Iraqis, even if it means that the U.S. has to go back and retake control because the Iraqis are overwhelmed. He did not elaborate.
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Bush is finally perhaps admitting that "stay the course" isn't much of a strategy as well. I guess we'll see if he listens to his generals or not. But it does seem as if Rumsfeld is advocating turning over regions to the Iraqi forces and pulling out U.S. troops whether the Iraqi forces are trained and equipped to handle the insurgants or not. It's a good thing he doesn't want to "cut and run" though.

Edited, Oct 20th 2006 at 8:20pm PDT by Jophiel
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#13 Oct 20 2006 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe this *is* how Iraqis govern themselves. It seems pretty clear that they can't handle or don't care for Western-style democracy. But, we'll give it to them! We'll free these people, even if we have to kill each and every one!
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#14 Oct 21 2006 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
Everything would be much better if we had brought them "Sweetest Day" celebrations.

And Valentine's Day.

And Love Day.

And done all that by email, instead of going there in person.
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