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#1 Oct 12 2006 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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I would utterly support a WAR against the governemnt of Sudan.


I wouldn't even have a problem with joining military if we were in the habit of doing things that actually need to be done in places like this.

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The governement of Sudan said they will concider the sending of Peace Keeping troops into the region a hostile act.
I say LET THEM.

I mean.. am I missing something? Isn't the government of Sudan the ones RESPONSIBLE for the horror going on there? WHy the FúCK would they want to ALLOW people to send anyone in to stop it!? We act like they are supposed to want us in there.. They refuse to let people in and people act surprised or somethingSmiley: confused


I mean, what the fúck?
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#2 Oct 12 2006 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I would utterly support a WAR against the governemnt of Sudan.


Funnily enough, I agree. Not a US-only war, but a "humanitarian intervention" from the UN, without a doubt.

Like what happened in the Balkans, except it was NATO then. Like what we should've done in Rwanda.

The only problem is that after Iraq, no one will want to go into one of these wars for quite a while. The interntioanl political capital for war has been spent, and it'll take a while to build it up again.
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#3 Oct 12 2006 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
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Whats 'darfur'?
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#4 Oct 12 2006 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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I think is a place that grows some killer janja weed... or something
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#5 Oct 12 2006 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
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killer janja weed.


Bugga! now my keyboards all covered in coffee....nice one Smiley: grin
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#6 Oct 12 2006 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the record, Darfur has been #12 on my list of "places kao would hit with multiple nuclear weapons in the event he was named supreme world dictator for life" for the last 5 years. Who keeps giving those ******** mortars anyways?
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#7 Oct 12 2006 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Wait, so we are the world's policeman? Smiley: confused

#8 Oct 12 2006 at 11:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, we have been for years. didn't you get the memo?

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#9 Oct 12 2006 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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A new motto for the USA of America? "I tink, darfur I invade".

Slam in 100,000 Blue-Hats from 15 UN countries to contain the Janjaweed, allow aid agencies to feed the starving, isolate the arab leadership, try and hang the guilty. Sorted. Out within 2 years I reckon.

Kosovo - Very Nasty, but relative peace and democracy within 3 years of going in. Almost all of us came home.
Iraq - Civil war with decades of pain to follow, and no way of getting our lads and lasses out for years.

Good thinking there Kelvy! Let's throw some troops in there and within 2 weeks we'll have won the military phase. We'll then cry "Foul" when we end up with the covert Janjaweed and the Govt guerilla troops shooting at us from both sides. Civil War guaranteed, and us trapped in the middle for 20 fUcking years. Yay!

I'm seriously wondering if some of you have the attention span of a Goldfish. Smiley: oyvey
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#10 Oct 12 2006 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
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Let's throw some troops in there and within 2 weeks we'll have won the military phase. We'll then cry "Foul" when we end up with the covert Janjaweed and the Govt guerilla troops shooting at us from both sides. Civil War guaranteed


Civil war isn't something that the place is unaccustomed to. It's probably waht is needed. Just about every country has had a civil war. It's the churning of the scocieties until it all balances out and things come out for the better. If the nation needs to be split into North/South Arab/African then so be it.
I'd say it beats government sanctioned systematic rape and annihilation of citizenry. This isn'y like sitting back watching kids work out their differences fighting over a toy.. this is just plain animal slaughter.
were it a country that simply had some armies fighting over a government or power I would say otherwise; however I have never really been able to comprehend ethnic cleansing.. like with ***** or Milosovic; I can only conclude that things like that are really the things that organizations like the UN SHOULD get militarily involved with instead of people squabbling over resources.
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#11 Oct 12 2006 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Even though n0bby contradicted my OP, I now agree with him, and want to suckle on him like a small but disturbingly cute succubus
Two more posts like that and you get to borrow my Swedish ***** enlarger again.

Clean it next time though, eh?
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#12 Oct 12 2006 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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; I can only conclude that things like that are really the things that organizations like the UN SHOULD SHOULD get militarily involved with instead of people squabbling over resources.



how ewe figger ol'boy?

I'm not talking about dropping bombs all over the place like pussies. I mean get guys in there to physically stop the ****.

Edited, Oct 12th 2006 at 2:33pm PDT by Kelvyquayo
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#13 Oct 12 2006 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
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; I can only conclude that things like that are really the things that organizations like the UN SHOULD SHOULD get militarily involved with instead of people squabbling over resources.



how ewe figger ol'boy?


Kelvyquayo wrote:
I would utterly support a WAR against the governemnt of Sudan.
That sorta sounded a bit less pacifist than a Peace Keeping force.

Oh by the way. That. . . thing. Y'know? The 'thing'?

It's behind the sofa under the computing magazine that Steve left there when he dropped off the CDs he borrowed.

If you wipe it with a damp cloth and avoid using abrasives or solvents, it should fit right back without affecting the reception on your TV set.
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#14 Oct 12 2006 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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That's why I specified the Government of Sudan. I don't know how it would be accomplished; but waht would you suggest?


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Oh by the way. That. . . thing. Y'know? The 'thing'?


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#15 Oct 14 2006 at 5:45 AM Rating: Default
what is going on in dafur is not a civil war. it is an ethnic cleansing. the muslim government is pushing out the native population and making it inhospitible for them to live there so they dont want to come back.

this is something the U.S. SHOULD be involved in.

i think anyone with a sence of compassion would support our intervention in dafur. instead, we sit on the sidelines unwilling to commit while unarmed defenseless civilians are being butchered, raped and maimed.

the moral majority working HARD for you.

mabe if someone snuck in and poured a few barrels of oil on the ground........
#16 Oct 14 2006 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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what is going on in dafur is not a civil war.
Correct.

Nor was there Civil War in Iraq.

Add the Magic Ingredient of "A Foreign Army" and hey presto, more GI's trapped in another major clusterfUck.
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#17 Oct 15 2006 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
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Slam in 100,000 Blue-Hats from 15 UN countries



Don't you mean 100,000 U.S. soldiers? Who else in the U.N. is going to have the balls to do what needs to be done?
#18 Oct 15 2006 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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Slam in 100,000 Blue-Hats from 15 UN countries



Don't you mean 100,000 U.S. soldiers? Who else in the U.N. is going to have the balls to do what needs to be done?
Like Kosovo? Smiley: oyvey
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#19 Oct 15 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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Like Kosovo? Smiley: oyvey


hey, that's different. we had to think long and hard about bombing other white people.
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#20 Oct 16 2006 at 1:43 AM Rating: Decent
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King Nobby wrote:
Like Kosovo? Smiley: oyvey


hey, that's different. we had to think long and hard about bombing other white people.


Exactly.

They're extermist Islamists in Darfur, even more reason to bomb them.

The problem is that no one likes to intervene for purely "humanitarian purposes". There is no real security/economic risks in Darfur. Only black people dying. And, as we've seen in Rwanda, it takes more than that for Western nations to intervene.

Not only that, but with US troops stuck in Iraq, in Afghanistan, with NK testing bombs and Iran being naughty, Darfur is back at the bottom of the pile. It'll be another Rwanda.

In other news, Extremist Islamists are apparently close to taking over Somalia, and might just turn it into a new Talibanesque Islamist-state. Of course, Ethiopia is tempted to delare war on them, albeit half-heartedly.
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#21 Oct 17 2006 at 6:18 AM Rating: Decent
Attacking these muzzies might **** off other muzzies, and with the extreme measures euros go to to not offend muzzies( putting a 14 year old girl in jail in england because she wouldn't participate in a study group with people [muzzies] whose language she couldn't understand) I don't see anyone but the U.S. doing jack **** about darfur, if anything ever gets done.

The Blue hats are a joke anyway. The "peacekeepers" down there do just as much to terrorize these people as the muzzies.

#22 Oct 17 2006 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Attacking these muzzies might **** off other muzzies, and with the extreme measures euros go to to not offend muzzies( putting a 14 year old girl in jail in england because she wouldn't participate in a study group with people [muzzies] whose language she couldn't understand) I don't see anyone but the U.S. doing jack sh*t about darfur, if anything ever gets done.


Please do yourself a favour and saw your hands offs.

Ever heard of the ban on veils in schools France? Did you know that it is illegal in Turkey for women to wear the veil in all public spaces, including at Uni? Do you have any idea of what goes on around you before you spout your ignorant bile?

Obviously not.

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The Blue hats are a joke anyway. The "peacekeepers" down there do just as much to terrorize these people as the muzzies.


The UN peacekeepers are not in Darfur, it's the African Union's. And would care to show something to back your last statement, or are we supposed to take your word for it?

I, for one, would love to see evidence of those peacekeepers practicing mass rape of children, of raiding villages in the middle of the night, setting them on fire, and them gunning down anyone who tries to flee. I would love you to show me evidence of peacekeepers practicing government-backed ethnic cleansing.
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#23 Oct 17 2006 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
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