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So, is this more oppressive infringement on American civil liberties? Is it yet another chapter in the ongoing conspiracy theory of 9/11? Or is this a fair prosecution of treason, the first of it's kind in some 50 years?


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That guy deserves an assrapeing with an ebola laced shattered glass bottle.

But there were some treson prosecutions involving CIA leaks in the last 30 years, John Anthony Walker, Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, etc.

Edited, Oct 11th 2006 at 10:07pm PDT by Kaolian

I believe all three were convicted of espionage, but they were also charged with treason in at least the initial indictment. Ames got treason dropped on a plea bargin. There are conflicting sources out there, and I didn't see one that had the origional indictment papers, so unless I see something concrete I can post as a source, i'll concede the point for now.

This is the part of the thread where i'm supposed to post my 18 paragraph tangential tirade on how you only think you had an American Government professor, because he didn't leave any marks right? or is that further down the page?

Al you Qaeda are belong to us.
This story was written by a twelve year old.
It's al Qaeda. As in "the base" not "base"


Troll much?

Wasn't there some Californian white kid that went to fight with the Talibans when the US invaded Afghanistan?

Wasn't that treason too?

Well I guess not, since it was quite well publicized, but it must come pretty close.

That's the one!

Oh, the irony of Johnny Walker fighting for the Talibans...

I always thought that for it to be treason, the "enemy" had to recieve some sort of advantage from you helping them... hmm, learn something new every day.

I honestly think this isn't a big deal. If some stupid *** wants to go other there and denounce America, fine. Once he steps on any American controled soil, he should just be shot. Where are all the people saying "if you don't like it here, leave" now?

Hell, if Al Qaeda is willing to take more of us white devil dogs, then why not send them all of our homeless? They already have the smell down, and you know that if they couldn't get any work over here there is no way they will work over there.

he should be covered by the freedom of speach. treason does not apply.

what Bush is doing is treason.

what this idiot is doing is just stupidity. he should be free to say whatever he wants to say. by the same token, whichever american shoots him dead in the street should be allowed to use what this idiot said as a defense to claim he felt threatened. we have that right too.

but talk is just that, talk. when government starts tossing people in jail for treason just because they dont like what is being said, you start a slow slide into tyrany and dictatorship, kind of like the government we have now. talk should be protected by the freedom of speach granted each and every one of us under the constitution used to form this country.

some idiot standing on a soap box screaming death to america is not a threat to this country. infact, the only one in real danger would be him, and not because of our government.

our government, inspite of what they might think at the moment, does not have the right to exercise their personal grudges. they are there to uphold the constitution of this country.

this whole box of fear we are being sold is pure ignorance on the part of the people. just a tactic to further whatever agenda the hand full of thugs in charge at the moment to justify actions thatwould be otherewise unjustifiable.

governments always want to controll. that is why we are failing in Iraq. controll is GIVEN, not TAKEN. people have to GIVE you controll. if they dont, no force short of genocide will TAKE it. the same applies here.

an example. what if someone actually nukes an american city?

is america destroyed? nope.
is america crippled? nope.
is america conqured? nope.

all thatwould happen is america would be really really really pissed off. and the morals and restraints placed on us by governemnt would be out the window. america would actually GO TO WAR. not to CONTROLL, but to DESTROY. we have the ability to turn some pissant third world full of fanaticle soap box screamers into a giant glass parking lot. and we would.

this crap about trying to controll the middle east is just that, a load of crap. all it is is a big bussiness wet dream. a vast new market to exploit and CONTROLL.

they are no threat to this country. they may be able to bloody our nose, but they can NEVER destroy us.

al-queda and the taliban bloodied our nose. we SHOULD have turned them into a glass parking lot. no invasion. no big bussiness wet dream. just a glass parking lot.

but instead, the powers of big bussiness twisted our resolve into their agenda. controll of a vast resource. and we fell for it.

suckers.

atleast the iraqi people are standing up for themselves. showing american bussines that controll is GIVEN not TAKEN. atleast the iraqi people have not succumbed to the snake charmers who have hoodwinked the people in this country into blind loyalty.

it is inspiring to see them hold off such overwhelming forces. it is a reminder of who we used to be. of the resolve our forfathers had when they formed this country. if the independance we used to have. of the CONTROLL we used to keep for ourselves.

the problems we are having in Iraq have formed because our government is trying to TAKE controll instead of inspiring the iraqi people to GIVE controll. fear may work on most of us, but it wont work on a people who have lived with it every day for generations. something the agenda makers should have forseen. if you value something more than your life, your life can not be threatened. and no matter how hard they try, our government cannot threaten to take away their God. our God.

nuke the taliban, walk away from Iraq. if you feel guilty about it, then offer it up to the league of arab states. they dont have a big bussiness pipe dream, they can do a better job. Hussin can do a better job, and did.

all we can do is show the world our ***** display our stupidity. that should be treason.

Well it's not as though he's standing with a protest sign outside the White House, calling Bush a liar, a demon, and a treasonous dictator fighting against the good peeps of Al-Qaeda. This guy's doing a little more than just talking. He up and moved to the Middle East, met up with our declared enemies, avowed to attack and destroy America, and participated in videos used for propaganda or recruitment.

And if "talk" is off limits to treason, what if an American gives away sensitive information to our enemies, such as troop movements or supply depots, or revealed some vulnerability? It's just talk after all, right? Free speech is protected by the constitution!