just found out the big wigs upstairs have found a way to cut training costs for new controllers.
being the majority of air traffic in the U.S. is done with radar, they are no longer going to teach non radar seperation at any of the facilities, cutting trainning time by a good 30 to 40 percent. and thus training costs.
i work traffic between miami and san juan perto rico. there are 2 radar sites, sitting on islands not owned by the U.S. that we use to controll this traffic. an average of 4 times a year one or both of those radar sites go down for various reasons from preventive maintanence to someone stealing the generator, to someone parking a crane next to it and effectively jamming it.
when it does, we use flight progress strips (paper strips) with time and position information to seperate the traffic.
this year, we just got a new computer system that eliminates the need for paper strips saving the agency a bundle of money for paper and printers and someone to man them. it displays the aircraft information electronically and allows us more versatility in manuplating the flight plan information.
it doesnt however, display time and fix information for aircraft. this system does not allow for the non radar seperation of aircraft.
of coarse we complained. their answer, allow the printers to keep printing the strips and save them in a big, unorganized pile. and when, not if, the radar goes down, sift through that big pile of strips and find the flight plan information for the aircraft in my airspace.
by the time we find all the flight plan information, and begine to cordinate that information with the next sectors the aircraft will enter without any notice unless we tell them.......those planes will be long out of our sector, and a whole new bunch of airplanes will be in our sector we know nothing about.
then.....to top it off.....
we find out the FAA is going to stop teaching non radar at all the facilities.
hahahahahahaha, i can laugh about the absurdity now because no one has died yet.
picture this, 3 years from now, when most of the experienced controllers are long gone, one of these radar sites fail....and they will......picture a controller with a blank look on his face slowly sifting through a pile of paper strips with aircraft screaming for instruction, and not having a clue about what he is supposed to do with the strips even if he does fine them all.
toss em up and let god sort them out, the moral majority working for you.
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shadowrelm wrote:
i work traffic between miami and san juan perto rico.
I think I can speak on behalf of the Asylum, nay Allakhazam as a whole when I say that I am desperately hoping that you mean you are just a well travelled man *****.
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Seeing your jumbled mass of intelligible monkey-mash typing fills me with more dread about our air traffic controller's education than any actual content of your posts.
Of course, I have no idea what most of that content is, seeing as how its written in intelligible monkey-mash typing.
Of course, I have no idea what most of that content is, seeing as how its written in intelligible monkey-mash typing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, that flight to Puerto Rico is out, too.
shadowrelm the thicko wrote:
yore lyf in owr handz
pai uz moer or ph34r uz!
pai uz moer or ph34r uz!
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Be happy he puts periods at the ends of his sentences and uses the occasional comma. Without those no one would know what goes where. Paper strips or not.
Jophiel wrote:
The fu'ck?! Why is the majority composed of only brown morel?
You gone all darky on us?
god i hope they have a great backup plan... does not sound like it, and for the sake of people travling those routes i hope nothing major happens as is often the case before things change to FIX the FIX of the FIX.
god i hope they have a great backup plan... does not sound like it, and for the sake of people travling those routes i hope nothing major happens as is often the case before things change to FIX the FIX of the FIX.
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
shadowrelm wrote:
god i hope they have a great backup plan... does not sound like it, and for the sake of people travling those routes i hope nothing major happens as is often the case before things change to FIX the FIX of the FIX.
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
Damn that is not a cool position to be in. Well, I'll drink one to your making it five years without drama, and one more to me not being on the plane headed for disaster while some untrained controller looks around for his paper strips. And six more because I can.
shadowrelm wrote:
god i hope they have a great backup plan... does not sound like it, and for the sake of people travling those routes i hope nothing major happens as is often the case before things change to FIX the FIX of the FIX.
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
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currently, there is no back up plan. infact, there is not much of a primary plan either.
for the last 5 to 6 years, safety has been tossed out the door for cost cutting and a new dress code. yep, we are gona look pretty spiffy on those interviews trying to explain how we killed a few hundred people.
its insane. it is border line criminal negligence.
a direct result of putting someone in charge of a safety related agency who knows nothing about that agency, and who,s primary agenda is to reduce cost, everything else be damned. your lives including.
you saw it happen during Katrina. when it happens in this agency, it wont be as devastating, but the potential for loss of life is very high.
im in a fairly good position. only 5 years to go to retire. the chances i will be personally sitting at the sector when it goes down is only around 5 percent. the chances it happens to me during a peak traffic period is probably 1 to 2 percent to boot. i only have to stay out of the fire for 5 years and prey when it does happen, it doesnt happen to me. that pretty sums up how most of us feel. we can all see this disaster marching down the street, powerless to stop it. all we can do is hope thatwhen it happenes, it doesnt happen to us. like a crap shoot. 200 people, and one or two of us will loose our job and or be sueed in civil court for multiple counts of wrongfull death. yes, we can be personally held liable if we ***** up and someone dies.
reguardless, us peons on the fireing line will be hung out to dry. bottom line is, we can refuse to accept a position if we feel it is unsafe. in reality that means we can quit working and find another job or roll the dice and hope it happens to someone else.
well punk, do ya feel lucky?
fifteen hundred posts and you still don't know how to quote someone? you bought that account on eBay, didn't you?
ugg, well document everything you do before, during, and after each time you are at work. file complaints with the upper management, file complaints with legal if need be and cover your a$$ as best you can.
god help ya and keep up the hard good work.
god help ya and keep up the hard good work.
If you have a male wombat in your stomach, it will come up while you're asleep to lick the salt off your lips.
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