Four and a half weeks and countingFollow

Yes - the story Tare linked specifies that "recent events have crystallized [his] problems with alcohol and underlying emotional problems," which tells me that he's toeing the party line that skeeterphilia is just a bad habit.

Good luck treating that, Mr. Foley. Do let us know how you progress.

While I wait for Jophiel's post to appear, I'll just add that this made me laugh:



Austin Powers? Dat j00?

Take that tricky!

I don't recall that issue at all actually. I don't think we even had a thread about in on this forum (hmmm... Wonder why not?).

However, I've been incredibly consistent with observations that people tend to term any sexual behavior with any minor "pedophilia". I've argued many times on this forum, that it's an incredibly missued term specifically because people like to use the harshest term possible when condemning someone's actions. I've made this argument long before I ever heard of Foley.

I'm also looking purely at the bits and pieces of emails and messages that have so far appeared in the press. While they do appear inappropriate, they aren't illegal. No moreso then dozens of conversations on this forum. Unless Foley actually engaged in sexual activity with someone underaged *and* the parents of that underaged person chose to press charges, he has not committed any criminal act. He may well be in a breach of ethics with regards to his job given both its public nature and the working relationship with the minor in question (although I thought the article said he as a "former page" and was no longer working there when the emails were sent), but that's a different matter.


I'm not saying it's wrong for him to have stepped down. That's his choice. However, unless he actually did something illegal or in violation of some ethical rule of the position he's in (which may be the case, but I'll let the experts figure that out), then it was a choice he made. He could well have continued his election bid for all I care. My observation is that his decision to drop out most likely had less to do with his concern for some crime being discovered then his own personal desire to avoid the discussion of the issue itself.

That and the media tends to have a field day with stories like this. For exactly the reasons I've already outlined. The fact that everyone keeps calling the guy a pedophile should be your first hint that this is the kind of thing that everyone exagerates.


What's more interesting to me is the timing of this. Do people really think that this information was just discovered now? Or do you think that someone knew, held the dirt until 5 weeks before the election and then released it? Kinda throws a kink into the motives of this whole thing doesn't it?

Yeah, I forgot protocol and didn't link it. Didn't cause much commotion. No big deal, just something I remember from listening to WCBS-News every day back then.

Hey, it doesn't count unless you get caught! So make sure you don't leave any marks.

A videotape for proof should be necessary. And it can be viewed online for a fee, to help pay for the legal bills.

Fraps + Google Video or it didn't happen.

Me too. Oh, wait... because we did have a thread about it. Huh.

You know, you'd sound a lot less stupid and slightly less like a tool if you dropped the omnipresent "Gee, let me insinuate some bias into this conversation" bit. One would hope that you'd have learned by now that it falls flat every time.

Anyway, moving on along to Dennis Hastert...Not that I'd dare let myself dream that this scandal will take Hastert down but, if it did, it would make me giddy as a schoolgirl. The pettiest of reasons for this is that, in the town my sister lives in, the mayor recently renamed one of the major streets "Hastert Drive" and I'd like to see how quickly it gets re-renamed after Hastert resigns due to a pedophilia scandal.

"That was Alexander's page!"
"Yeah, but he told Shimkus!"
"No way, I told Boehner about it!"
"Hey man, I let Hastert know!"
"Nuh uh, if he told me it was with a bunch of other stuff! I can't remember all that!"
...

"I know! It's the Democrat's fault!!!"There's no actual evidence of this mind you other than the unfortunate timing but, hey, when you're circling the wagons there's no reason to let facts stand in the way of a good defense.

So is Boehner pronounced "*****"?

We have Limbaugh now pitching the idea that the Democrats bribed this kid over a year ago to seduce Foley so they could use the material now.It'd be funny if it wasn't so sickeningly pathetic.

I'm sure Gbaji will be presenting the theory soon though since it showed up on the Limbaugh program