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#1 Sep 20 2006 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=325&objectid=10400645

I had no idea we had the technology to make mini-blackholes. This makes me think though since we don't really have that much of an understanding on black holes to begin with. Well let's hope we can find some use for this machine.

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#2 Sep 20 2006 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Dr Cox dismissed worries that by adventuring into the unknown and creating tiny black holes, the machine could even destroy the planet.




Umm, what if they can't "turn off" this Black Hole?


I don't remember a whole lot about physics class in high school, however I do remember the teacher specifically saying that even light cannot escape a Black Hole. Forget the planet, a little Black Hole could (in theory) gobble up this entire solar system; there's no telling how much this could destroy or how quickly.


I'm voting bad idea on this.
#3 Sep 20 2006 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
well there is a 10 to the minus 40 chance of stuff going wrong so I guess that's good. Though how can we prove the risk of this if we don't completely understand it. Well if **** hits the fan we'll be dead before we know it =)
#4 Sep 20 2006 at 9:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's also an infinitely small chance that a human can spontaneously combust at any moment in time, and there's definately been record of that happening before.
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#5 Sep 20 2006 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.


I like dem odds! Smiley: laugh
#6 Sep 21 2006 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Forget the planet, a little Black Hole could (in theory) gobble up this entire solar system; there's no telling how much this could destroy or how quickly.




Thats how they are going to get rid of that pesky Pluto.
#7 Sep 21 2006 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
This sounds like the beggining of a bad sci-fi movie.

Having said that, it does seem exciting. We might finally find out if dead people become ghosts that spy on us at night when we get undressed.
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#8 Sep 21 2006 at 3:23 AM Rating: Good
They are psuedo black holes. Black holes require a star, a BIG star and a lot of force to collapse in on itself. That BIG stars mass stays when its shrunk to the size of Texas. Seems they are just working with the energy part, the Black hole will not substain itself for longer then a couple seconds.

Its too early to make any sense but trust they will not create a mini black hole thats gonna drift out and gobble up our world and Solar System.
#9 Sep 21 2006 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
They are psuedo black holes. Black holes require a star, a BIG star and a lot of force to collapse in on itself. That BIG stars mass stays when its shrunk to the size of Texas. Seems they are just working with the energy part, the Black hole will not substain itself for longer then a couple seconds.

Its too early to make any sense but trust they will not create a mini black hole thats gonna drift out and gobble up our world and Solar System.


Well not intentionally, of course :)
#10 Sep 21 2006 at 4:15 AM Rating: Default
Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?
#11 Sep 21 2006 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
Hellboy the Hand wrote:
Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?


Marmosets.
#12 Sep 21 2006 at 5:46 AM Rating: Good
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Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?

Marmosets.

So, you are saying it isn't the size of you black hole that matters, but the motion of the singularity gravity waves?
#13 Sep 21 2006 at 5:55 AM Rating: Good
Hellboy the Hand wrote:
Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?


The size of a black hole is measured from the singularity to the event horizon. So the mass of the singularity dictates how far the event horizon is. So a larger star with more mass would in turn create a larger massed singularity making a bigger black hole. Black holes are not really a measurable size. Just where light can longer escape (event horizon)

here is a table I found online

Radius for Black Hole of a Given Mass 
Object 	          Mass 	                         Black Hole Radius 
Earth 	          5.98 x 1027 g 	                0.9 cm 
Sun 	          1.989 x 1033 g 	                2.9 km 
5 Solar Mass Star 9.945 x 1033 g 	                15 km 
Galactic Core   109 Solar Masses                     3 x 109 km


109 is 10 to the 9th



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Edited, Sep 21st 2006 at 10:06am EDT by Soracloud
#14 Sep 21 2006 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
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All I could think of when I saw the pic on the article was Stargate
#15 Sep 21 2006 at 6:01 AM Rating: Good
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Blackhols Shmackholes, we got the technology to do this! http://benheck.com/Games/Xbox360/x360_page_5.htm

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#16 Sep 21 2006 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Hellboy the Hand wrote:
Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?

Yes, more-or-less.

The mass of a black hole star remains the same as it did before it collapsed. Black holes are not like giant vacuum cleaners in space, gobbling everything up. It's just that the density of the black hole is so high because the mass is compressed into less and less space, so the force of gravity extends oUtward further from its surface.

If you were to stand near the surface of a star and there was 1g of force exerted on you, and if your position in space remained the same as the star collapsed into a black hole (imagine it's surface moving further and further away from you as it shrank), you'd still experience 1g of force from that position.

Smiley: schooled

#17 Sep 21 2006 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
fhrugby the Sly wrote:
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Hell wrote:
Isn't the size of a black hole always the same it's just the singularity points gravity gives it the effect of size?

Marmosets.

So, you are saying it isn't the size of the black hole that matters, but the motion of the singularity gravity waves?

********** /nod.
#18 Sep 21 2006 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.


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The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.


huh..... how about that. I feel safer already.
#19 Sep 21 2006 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
Molish wrote:
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For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.


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The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.


huh..... how about that. I feel safer already.


Thats probably the same odds as getting struck by lightning 1,063 times in the same spot at once while being attacked by an albino boar and then finished with a plane crashing on you because it was struck by a meteorite at 30,000 ft. Oh and a solar storm fries your cell phone when you try calling for help.
#20 Sep 21 2006 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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sora wrote:
molish wrote:
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For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.

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The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.



huh..... how about that. I feel safer already.



Thats probably the same odds as getting struck by lightning 1,063 times in the same spot at once while being attacked by an albino boar and then finished with a plane crashing on you because it was struck by a meteorite at 30,000 ft. Oh and a solar storm fries your cell phone when you try calling for help.


Damn! That happend to you too! Was your boar wearing a bow tie?
#21 Sep 21 2006 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe you missed the irony in the correlation of those two phrases.

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#22 Sep 21 2006 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
Molish wrote:
Maybe you missed the irony in the correlation of those two phrases.

Go ahead, look again. I won't judge you more then I already do


I could have cared less about your correlation. I was focusing on the odds part, I tend to just quote entire posts.
#23 Sep 21 2006 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
Molish wrote:
Maybe you missed the irony in the correlation of those two phrases.

Go ahead, look again. I won't judge you more then I already do


I could have cared less about your correlation. I was focusing on the odds part, I tend to just quote entire posts.


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#24 Sep 21 2006 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
Molish wrote:
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For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.


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The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.


huh..... how about that. I feel safer already.


Thats probably the same odds as getting struck by lightning 1,063 times in the same spot at once while being attacked by an albino boar and then finished with a plane crashing on you because it was struck by a meteorite at 30,000 ft. Oh and a solar storm fries your cell phone when you try calling for help.


ROFL
#25 Sep 21 2006 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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This sounds like the beggining of a bad sci-fi movie.

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Quote:"Dr Cox dismissed worries that by adventuring into the unknown and creating tiny black holes, the machine could even destroy the planet."

You're getting warm, but I think it may be closer to a **** script.

#26 Sep 21 2006 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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